RE: Mazda MX-5 2.0 (2019): Driven
Discussion
ChimpOnGas said:
My original point was and still is this new Mazda MX5 isn't really progress, it's a costly under-performing little thing that is way more expensive to fuel and will lose you thousands of pounds in depreciation during the period you own it.
How is that progress
Your TVR cost roughly £35k new, factoring in interest rates then that is roughly double what the MX-5 costs now, it's an absolutely ridiculous comparison. You're comparing a car that cost twice as much and claiming a victory How is that progress
Just to remind the four banger fraternity what a proper sports car sounds like 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FopblCpvkuE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FopblCpvkuE
LaurasOtherHalf said:
Sorry, I obviously didn't make myself clear-it's often difficult to get across exactly what you mean on an internet forum rather than in a day to day chat. Apologies!
I didn't mean to imply all Fiats are crappy, I'm quite the fan of the little 500 as it happens at least in the styling and handing departments. The 124 Spider however, yes, that is crappy.
Sorry for the confusion again!
I am still confused..maybe you could expand on why you think the 124 is "crappy" and how you came to that conclusion please, ie did you drive both the Fiat and the Mazda and what were the main differences that made you think thatI didn't mean to imply all Fiats are crappy, I'm quite the fan of the little 500 as it happens at least in the styling and handing departments. The 124 Spider however, yes, that is crappy.
Sorry for the confusion again!
otolith said:
I suspect the market for hardcore two seaters to be a weekend car is a lot smaller than the market for a commutable two seater for two car families. If you’re running two cars as a couple there’s no need for both to be highly practical as long as they’re both usable dailies.
When I was married, my wife had an MX-5, then a 350Z, then a Z4M, all of which she commuted in. The other car was a Civic Type-R, then an RX-8, then an Impreza estate, then a Saab 9-5 estate. Along the way I picked up an Elise, which I think she drove once. These days I have a Merc E-class estate, my Elise, and her Z4M, which I really kept after she died for sentimental reasons. As a single bloke I could live with the Merc and the Lotus, and as you say wouldn’t buy something like an MX-5 or Z4, but for a couple they make perfect sense.
I'm very sorry to hear about your wife. When I was married, my wife had an MX-5, then a 350Z, then a Z4M, all of which she commuted in. The other car was a Civic Type-R, then an RX-8, then an Impreza estate, then a Saab 9-5 estate. Along the way I picked up an Elise, which I think she drove once. These days I have a Merc E-class estate, my Elise, and her Z4M, which I really kept after she died for sentimental reasons. As a single bloke I could live with the Merc and the Lotus, and as you say wouldn’t buy something like an MX-5 or Z4, but for a couple they make perfect sense.
I think Mazda is my favourite mainstream manufacturer in recent years. They are the only mainstream company that seems to be determined to look at NA innovation and driver fun rather than turbos, emissions and diamond cut alloys...
ChimpOnGas said:
Just to remind the four banger fraternity what a proper sports car sounds like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FopblCpvkuE
All noise, no ability. Talk about having to tip toe around the corners. An MX5 would kill it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FopblCpvkuE
ChimpOnGas said:
Just to remind the four banger fraternity what a proper sports car sounds like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FopblCpvkuE
I tried to find some laptimes set by Chimaera's, seems nobody ever tried for fear of crashing or breaking down... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FopblCpvkuE
Sounds great, I had a main TVR dealer around the corner and basically grew up with their awesome sound... basically they are at their best when watching and listening to them as a bystander. Perhaps one could hire a team of about ten TVR's to always drive in front of ones MX5, to make the view and aural experience more pleasurable. I don't need to explain why you need ten, now do I?
Onehp said:
I tried to find some laptimes set by Chimaera's, seems nobody ever tried for fear of crashing or breaking down...
Sounds great, I had a main TVR dealer around the corner and basically grew up with their awesome sound... basically they are at their best when watching and listening to them as a bystander. Perhaps one could hire a team of about ten TVR's to always drive in front of ones MX5, to make the view and aural experience more pleasurable. I don't need to explain why you need ten, now do I?
They'll hold the MX5 up if driven in front though...Sounds great, I had a main TVR dealer around the corner and basically grew up with their awesome sound... basically they are at their best when watching and listening to them as a bystander. Perhaps one could hire a team of about ten TVR's to always drive in front of ones MX5, to make the view and aural experience more pleasurable. I don't need to explain why you need ten, now do I?
ChimpOnGas said:
Just to remind the four banger fraternity what a proper sports car sounds like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FopblCpvkuE
That sounds lovely! I bet sounds even better when you drive it fast. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FopblCpvkuE
My lowly old four banger can’t compete for noise even when giving maximum stick.
https://youtu.be/Fc3jVCBVMFg
HorneyMX5 said:
That sounds lovely! I bet sounds even better when you drive it fast.
My lowly old four banger can’t compete for noise even when giving maximum stick.
https://youtu.be/Fc3jVCBVMFg
What gear knob is that you've fitted (MX-5PARTS)? I got a carbon fibre looking one but it won't tighten and stay so, like the look of that one you haveMy lowly old four banger can’t compete for noise even when giving maximum stick.
https://youtu.be/Fc3jVCBVMFg
ChimpOnGas said:
Just to remind the four banger fraternity what a proper sports car sounds like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FopblCpvkuE
Shome mishtake shurely...? All I heard was some generic V8 warble - I was expecting a flat six or V12 , or at least a Chevy smallblock , not some cast off British Leyland stuff. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FopblCpvkuE
SmilerFTM said:
HorneyMX5 said:
That sounds lovely! I bet sounds even better when you drive it fast.
My lowly old four banger can’t compete for noise even when giving maximum stick.
https://youtu.be/Fc3jVCBVMFg
What gear knob is that you've fitted (MX-5PARTS)? I got a carbon fibre looking one but it won't tighten and stay so, like the look of that one you haveMy lowly old four banger can’t compete for noise even when giving maximum stick.
https://youtu.be/Fc3jVCBVMFg
SFO said:
Fiat do a CF hard top for the 124 Spider .. I suspect that would fit an MX5? To make it weight efficient, you could remove the soft top and its mechanism?
Now that’s a thing, does anyone know if there is hardtop for the ND?Edit: Apparently yes, but it’s 3rd party, motorsport based which is good, however they appear to start at about £1500 eek
Edited by ruminator on Saturday 1st September 10:00
ruminator said:
Now that’s a thing, does anyone know if there is hardtop for the ND?
Edit: Apparently yes, but it’s 3rd party, motorsport based which is good, however they appear to start at about £1500 eek
they were 1500 over 20 yrs ago.Edit: Apparently yes, but it’s 3rd party, motorsport based which is good, however they appear to start at about £1500 eek
Edited by ruminator on Saturday 1st September 10:00
Im awaiting one at the local dealer for a test drive.
As per the bbr 200 review on here, I think it can be 30k worth of car.
Non leather seat car for about 20k
Fit the drop in the mazdaspeed buckets with the saving on the leather seats.
Ohlins road and track, along with eibach anti roll bars
Small bbk kit calipers.
Bbr na tuning kit, which will hopefully be about 225 or so, as their mods dont overlap with the mazda updates.
Decent tyres and some jazzy wheels:
Thinking of chopping in the 18 month old Exige 350 Sport. I spent about 100 times more in the forums than I do driving it, about 50 times more looking at it then driving it.
I miss the true roof down experience and really being able to wring a car out. The Exige is just epic and destroys roads, but too much tied up in a car I think for my usage. I do miss my s2000 days a bit, cheap to run, cheap to track and a car you can really push to 10/10ths. The low down torque the mx5 appeals as it will be better than an s2000 on the road. Also Im a bit precious about the exige to track it, insurance want a tracker, drinks fuel etc.
Decisions, decisions...
As per the bbr 200 review on here, I think it can be 30k worth of car.
Non leather seat car for about 20k
Fit the drop in the mazdaspeed buckets with the saving on the leather seats.
Ohlins road and track, along with eibach anti roll bars
Small bbk kit calipers.
Bbr na tuning kit, which will hopefully be about 225 or so, as their mods dont overlap with the mazda updates.
Decent tyres and some jazzy wheels:
Thinking of chopping in the 18 month old Exige 350 Sport. I spent about 100 times more in the forums than I do driving it, about 50 times more looking at it then driving it.
I miss the true roof down experience and really being able to wring a car out. The Exige is just epic and destroys roads, but too much tied up in a car I think for my usage. I do miss my s2000 days a bit, cheap to run, cheap to track and a car you can really push to 10/10ths. The low down torque the mx5 appeals as it will be better than an s2000 on the road. Also Im a bit precious about the exige to track it, insurance want a tracker, drinks fuel etc.
Decisions, decisions...
Edited by robinandcamera on Saturday 1st September 18:06
Edited by robinandcamera on Saturday 1st September 18:18
robinandcamera said:
Im awaiting one at the local dealer for a test drive.
As per the bbr 200 review on here, I think it can be 30k worth of car.
Non leather seat car for about 20k
Fit the drop in the mazdaspeed buckets with the saving on the leather seats.
Ohlins road and track, along with eibach anti roll bars
Small bbk kit calipers.
Bbr na tuning kit, which will hopefully be about 225 or so, as their mods dont overlap with the mazda updates.
Decent tyres and some jazzy wheels:
Thinking of chopping in the 18 month old Exige 350 Sport. I spent about 100 times more in the forums than I do driving it, about 50 times more looking at it then driving it.
I miss the true roof down experience and really being able to wring a car out. The Exige is just epic and destroys roads, but too much tied up in a car I think for my usage. I do miss my s2000 days a bit, cheap to run, cheap to track and a car you can really push to 10/10ths. The low down torque the mx5 appeals as it will be better than an s2000 on the road. Also Im a bit precious about the exige to track it, insurance want a tracker, drinks fuel etc.
Decisions, decisions...
A great package .... As per the bbr 200 review on here, I think it can be 30k worth of car.
Non leather seat car for about 20k
Fit the drop in the mazdaspeed buckets with the saving on the leather seats.
Ohlins road and track, along with eibach anti roll bars
Small bbk kit calipers.
Bbr na tuning kit, which will hopefully be about 225 or so, as their mods dont overlap with the mazda updates.
Decent tyres and some jazzy wheels:
Thinking of chopping in the 18 month old Exige 350 Sport. I spent about 100 times more in the forums than I do driving it, about 50 times more looking at it then driving it.
I miss the true roof down experience and really being able to wring a car out. The Exige is just epic and destroys roads, but too much tied up in a car I think for my usage. I do miss my s2000 days a bit, cheap to run, cheap to track and a car you can really push to 10/10ths. The low down torque the mx5 appeals as it will be better than an s2000 on the road. Also Im a bit precious about the exige to track it, insurance want a tracker, drinks fuel etc.
Decisions, decisions...
Edited by robinandcamera on Saturday 1st September 18:06
Edited by robinandcamera on Saturday 1st September 18:18
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