RE: Mazda MX-5 2.0 (2019): Driven

RE: Mazda MX-5 2.0 (2019): Driven

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sc0tt

18,041 posts

201 months

Monday 3rd September 2018
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sc0tt said:
I drove a 184 mx5 rf this morning, 6 miles on the clock wheel covers still on.

It went well, was a tad stiff, wouldn’t need one to go any faster, sounded nice, brakes were naff to be expected as they wouldn’t have been bedded in.

Waiting for a price from the dealer.
Price came through

£3k down, 36 x £379

Balloon £10101.75

Not sure I can make that work.

The Selfish Gene

5,505 posts

210 months

Monday 3rd September 2018
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Simon Owen said:
robinandcamera said:
Im awaiting one at the local dealer for a test drive.

As per the bbr 200 review on here, I think it can be 30k worth of car.

Non leather seat car for about 20k
Fit the drop in the mazdaspeed buckets with the saving on the leather seats.
Ohlins road and track, along with eibach anti roll bars
Small bbk kit calipers.
Bbr na tuning kit, which will hopefully be about 225 or so, as their mods dont overlap with the mazda updates.
Decent tyres and some jazzy wheels:



Thinking of chopping in the 18 month old Exige 350 Sport. I spent about 100 times more in the forums than I do driving it, about 50 times more looking at it then driving it.

I miss the true roof down experience and really being able to wring a car out. The Exige is just epic and destroys roads, but too much tied up in a car I think for my usage. I do miss my s2000 days a bit, cheap to run, cheap to track and a car you can really push to 10/10ths. The low down torque the mx5 appeals as it will be better than an s2000 on the road. Also Im a bit precious about the exige to track it, insurance want a tracker, drinks fuel etc.

Decisions, decisions...

Edited by robinandcamera on Saturday 1st September 18:06


Edited by robinandcamera on Saturday 1st September 18:18
A great package ....
that looks mega - good work.

The Selfish Gene

5,505 posts

210 months

Monday 3rd September 2018
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sc0tt said:
Price came through

£3k down, 36 x £379

Balloon £10101.75

Not sure I can make that work.
that seems about 4k too expensive doesn't it?

what's the APR?


cornershop

2,136 posts

196 months

Monday 3rd September 2018
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"Weight: 1,105kg (with 75kg driver)"

I still find this amazing for a mass made car made today - i was expecting 1250 plus

The Selfish Gene

5,505 posts

210 months

Monday 3rd September 2018
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cornershop said:
"Weight: 1,105kg (with 75kg driver)"

I still find this amazing for a mass made car made today - i was expecting 1250 plus
the 75k human is what I find amazing biggrin


Luke.

10,995 posts

250 months

Monday 3rd September 2018
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sc0tt said:
sc0tt said:
I drove a 184 mx5 rf this morning, 6 miles on the clock wheel covers still on.

It went well, was a tad stiff, wouldn’t need one to go any faster, sounded nice, brakes were naff to be expected as they wouldn’t have been bedded in.

Waiting for a price from the dealer.
Price came through

£3k down, 36 x £379

Balloon £10101.75

Not sure I can make that work.
Compared to my Abarth lease: £1900 down and £140 a month for two years.

sc0tt

18,041 posts

201 months

Monday 3rd September 2018
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The Selfish Gene said:
sc0tt said:
Price came through

£3k down, 36 x £379

Balloon £10101.75

Not sure I can make that work.
that seems about 4k too expensive doesn't it?

what's the APR?
Funnily enough I thought it was £3600 too expensive. 3.9% APR

The residual price is horrendous when they have a car on their forecourt (2015 plate) for £15k.

If the balloon was £15k I'd have probably already bought one.

sc0tt

18,041 posts

201 months

Monday 3rd September 2018
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Luke. said:
sc0tt said:
sc0tt said:
I drove a 184 mx5 rf this morning, 6 miles on the clock wheel covers still on.

It went well, was a tad stiff, wouldn’t need one to go any faster, sounded nice, brakes were naff to be expected as they wouldn’t have been bedded in.

Waiting for a price from the dealer.
Price came through

£3k down, 36 x £379

Balloon £10101.75

Not sure I can make that work.
Compared to my Abarth lease: £1900 down and £140 a month for two years.
Who did you lease that through. Downside is I would have to drive a fiat wink


The Selfish Gene

5,505 posts

210 months

Monday 3rd September 2018
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sc0tt said:
Funnily enough I thought it was £3600 too expensive. 3.9% APR

The residual price is horrendous when they have a car on their forecourt (2015 plate) for £15k.

If the balloon was £15k I'd have probably already bought one.
the APR is good...........can't you mess about with the balloon?

You can always refinance it on the balloon though? or you determined to get rid at end of the initial term?


sc0tt

18,041 posts

201 months

Monday 3rd September 2018
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The Selfish Gene said:
sc0tt said:
Funnily enough I thought it was £3600 too expensive. 3.9% APR

The residual price is horrendous when they have a car on their forecourt (2015 plate) for £15k.

If the balloon was £15k I'd have probably already bought one.
the APR is good...........can't you mess about with the balloon?

You can always refinance it on the balloon though? or you determined to get rid at end of the initial term?
I wouldn't keep it. No I've asked. Mazda set the balloon.

Fleet prices have one for £753 up front and £251 per month for x 24

£6528 for the cost of lease.


The Selfish Gene

5,505 posts

210 months

Monday 3rd September 2018
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sc0tt said:
The Selfish Gene said:
sc0tt said:
Funnily enough I thought it was £3600 too expensive. 3.9% APR

The residual price is horrendous when they have a car on their forecourt (2015 plate) for £15k.

If the balloon was £15k I'd have probably already bought one.
the APR is good...........can't you mess about with the balloon?

You can always refinance it on the balloon though? or you determined to get rid at end of the initial term?
I wouldn't keep it. No I've asked. Mazda set the balloon.

Fleet prices have one for £753 up front and £251 per month for x 24

£6528 for the cost of lease.
I'm not very good at all this biggrin - so forgive me - but that sounds better doesn't it?

by Fleet does that mean it has to be a business lease and so tax is evil?

The Selfish Gene

5,505 posts

210 months

Monday 3rd September 2018
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sc0tt said:
I wouldn't keep it. No I've asked. Mazda set the balloon.

Fleet prices have one for £753 up front and £251 per month for x 24

£6528 for the cost of lease.
that's a good website - just found your deal...........cross reference business and personal and compared against an Abarth 124 Scorpione

The MX5 looks decent value on lease............

sc0tt

18,041 posts

201 months

Monday 3rd September 2018
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The Selfish Gene said:
sc0tt said:
I wouldn't keep it. No I've asked. Mazda set the balloon.

Fleet prices have one for £753 up front and £251 per month for x 24

£6528 for the cost of lease.
that's a good website - just found your deal...........cross reference business and personal and compared against an Abarth 124 Scorpione

The MX5 looks decent value on lease............
Very good value. I'm currently discussing options with them and should hopefully place an order.

The Selfish Gene

5,505 posts

210 months

Monday 3rd September 2018
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sc0tt said:
Very good value. I'm currently discussing options with them and should hopefully place an order.
are they available now?

I've just emailed the office to see if I can get one through work.

Although that Abarth deal above at 1900 plus 140 seems ok too

The Selfish Gene

5,505 posts

210 months

Monday 3rd September 2018
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I don't know anything about leasing.............but does the following mean......

23 monthly rentals of:

£209.23

Initial rental:

£627.69

Processing fee :

£249.00

Finance doc fee :

£0.00

Manufacturer RRP:

£22295.00

P11D :

£21725.00

Benefit in kind (BIK) :

£6952.00

BIK @ 20% tax:

£115.87 pcm

BIK @ 40% tax:

£231.73 pcm


  • Prices are displayed exclusive of VAT
that the price per month is plus the BIK + VAT? thus nearly 3 times more than the price quoted?

sc0tt

18,041 posts

201 months

Monday 3rd September 2018
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4 month wait

sc0tt

18,041 posts

201 months

Monday 3rd September 2018
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The Selfish Gene said:
I don't know anything about leasing.............but does the following mean......

23 monthly rentals of:

£209.23

Initial rental:

£627.69

Processing fee :

£249.00

Finance doc fee :

£0.00

Manufacturer RRP:

£22295.00

P11D :

£21725.00

Benefit in kind (BIK) :

£6952.00

BIK @ 20% tax:

£115.87 pcm

BIK @ 40% tax:

£231.73 pcm


  • Prices are displayed exclusive of VAT
that the price per month is plus the BIK + VAT? thus nearly 3 times more than the price quoted?
I'm afraid I don't know about business leasing.

The Selfish Gene

5,505 posts

210 months

Monday 3rd September 2018
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sc0tt said:
I'm afraid I don't know about business leasing.
me neither - other than it looks like HMRC have made it really unattractive!

the personal lease still looks good though :-)


underphil

1,246 posts

210 months

Monday 3rd September 2018
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greenarrow said:
What is it abut TVR drivers that they always have to stick the boot into the MX-5? They're applies and pears.

However, in general nice to see mostly positive comments in response to a PH article on a car. SO much negativity and hate on this site in general these days.

I love Mazda. They just do their own thing. I really fancy an RX-8 and I'd love another MX-5. I miss my NB, but rust did for it. Not being handy with a welding tool, it was starting to grate having to pay £300 each year to get it through the MOT. I really do hope the NDs don't go the same way.

Oh and yes, please stick the new engine in a Mazda 3 and Mazda 6.
I can't imagine this will ever reach any of Mazda's other models - they'll be getting the new HCCI engine next year

Luke.

10,995 posts

250 months

Monday 3rd September 2018
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sc0tt said:
Who did you lease that through. Downside is I would have to drive a fiat wink
Direct from Fiat. And there's not a single fiat badge on it. Lots of Mazda stickers though...