RE: Mazda MX-5 2.0 (2019): Driven
Discussion
Jon_S_Rally said:
While I'm pleased this car exists, I don't think I would ever buy one. The looks put me off. The high bonnet line which suddenly drops away at the nose makes it looks really odd from side-on. A sad necessity due to pedestrian protection I suspect, but it's ruined the looks of the car for me. That and a two-seater sports car is still useless to most people. It would always have to be a second car for me and, if it's a second car, it can be more hardcore, so the MX-5 would just never register on my list.
Like I say though, I'm glad Mazda are still knocking them out and that they're still producing vaguely interesting NA four pots.
How often do any of us of working age drive with more than one passenger in the car?Like I say though, I'm glad Mazda are still knocking them out and that they're still producing vaguely interesting NA four pots.
If we have kids, fair enough, and they also seem to come with enough paraphenalia to fill a small van, but if one is not blessed with progeny, how regularly does one play taxi to more than one other person, usually one's partner?
Commuting seems to form a majority of one's mileage and is usually done alone or, at most, with said partner, and if going out at the weekend, Car Sharing as a group is usually only done for big trips to occasional events.
Surely it would make sense, in those circumstances, to get the MX5 and enjoy it for the 90% of trips that it is all you really need, and then just have an account at the local car hire place so you can pay, what, £100 for a weekend in an estate or a van if needed?
rare6499 said:
Undersealing a brand new car in 2018? Are they THAT bad?!
Yes, Mazda puts no protection on the metal of its cars like other manufacturers so they start to rot immediately sitting in dealer lots. This version of the MX-5 has quite a few places underneath of bare exposed metal and is known for rust already without putting some protection on. I guess at the price point of £22k that they sell this car at it is not cost effective? Their higher end models like their SUVs and the Mazda 6 get better treatment from my understanding.ash73 said:
And no mention of the lack of rust proofing, such a shame many of these will be basket cases in 10 years.
The cars come with a 3 year paintwork warranty and a 12 year perforation warranty so when you collect your new car in a couple of months you can rest assured their shouldn't be any problems on that front for quite a while.Those pictures are interesting because they show the Recaro seats which Mazda sometimes put into special editions and at the moment, there are no models of 2019 car that will come with an option for those that is going to be available in the UK. The Brembo brake upgrade which the USA have had for ages, is still not going to be available at the current time.
You might be lucky and find a demonstrator at a showroom this week but I am waiting to try one and have been told it should be very shortly. There are cars in stock available to dealers in the UK and you should be able to collect one or next month/early October.
Hope that's all helpful.
coppice said:
I have an ND 160bhp and this upgrade ticks most boxes . More power is good , as although the MX5 is actually a lot faster than I imagined it would be(coming from a 400bhp/ton Seven ) but some more shove would be nice , and some aural fizz instead of the current anodyne 16 valve , 4 pot blare . Telescopic steering column? Hmm ...ok then , but what it really ,really needs isn't more adjustment but even a little bit of feel and feedback . It has neither and that's a real missed opportunity. The bus sized, slippy rimmed wheel is bloody awful too.
Otherwise I am very pleased with mine. The comment about it being cramped is asinine , though . I am 5-11 and 'well built' and 300mile days have been comfy and pleasant . It is small, and brilliantly packaged but unless you are much bigger than me or are a borderline claustrophobic it is not cramped at all . You want cramped ? OK try an MG Midget or Seven, hood up - now that IS cramped ....
I'm 6'1" and not too chunky and fit in OK. The test will be a trip to Italy next year, but long distances in an NC were a doddle (565 miles in one day), so I'm fairly confident. Agree with you on the steering wheel.Otherwise I am very pleased with mine. The comment about it being cramped is asinine , though . I am 5-11 and 'well built' and 300mile days have been comfy and pleasant . It is small, and brilliantly packaged but unless you are much bigger than me or are a borderline claustrophobic it is not cramped at all . You want cramped ? OK try an MG Midget or Seven, hood up - now that IS cramped ....
My dislikes - keyless ignition, automatic wipers, automatic lights, automatic dipping, lane-change warning; all of which Mrs H (it's her car) has accepted without a murmur but bring out the grumpy in me. Woe betide me if I switch them off when I get a shot in it, and don't remember to switch them back on again!
The Hypno-Toad said:
The cars come with a 3 year paintwork warranty and a 12 year perforation warranty so when you collect your new car in a couple of months you can rest assured their shouldn't be any problems on that front for quite a while.
I completely disagree given how Mazda has dealt with rust issues in the past under warranty on both the RX-8 and NC MX-5. That warranty is basically worth jack st. If you are going to own this car for an extended period of time like many MX-5 owners do, then you should look into rust protecting it yourself for a couple hundred pounds. RSTurboPaul said:
Jon_S_Rally said:
That and a two-seater sports car is still useless to most people. It would always have to be a second car for me
How often do any of us of working age drive with more than one passenger in the car?If we have kids, fair enough, and they also seem to come with enough paraphenalia to fill a small van, but if one is not blessed with progeny, how regularly does one play taxi to more than one other person, usually one's partner?
Commuting seems to form a majority of one's mileage and is usually done alone or, at most, with said partner, and if going out at the weekend, Car Sharing as a group is usually only done for big trips to occasional events.
Surely it would make sense, in those circumstances, to get the MX5 and enjoy it for the 90% of trips that it is all you really need, and then just have an account at the local car hire place so you can pay, what, £100 for a weekend in an estate or a van if needed?
dxg said:
It does now have this feature.
There's an upgrade kit for the existing cars just available (last week). Cost is about £200 and it comprises software and new usb sockets (note the photo with a picture of a phone pointing to one of the sockets)...
Thanks for confirming, just booked my in for the upgrade next week. I can't stand the Mazda sat nav so being able to use Google Maps will be a big upgrade.There's an upgrade kit for the existing cars just available (last week). Cost is about £200 and it comprises software and new usb sockets (note the photo with a picture of a phone pointing to one of the sockets)...
unpc said:
Having owned several, I came to the conclusion that I don't like convertibles so this would be a no from me which is a shame as I know I would love another MX5. It's a pity they don't do a proper coupe rather than that daft looking RC thing IMO.
Fiat do a CF hard top for the 124 Spider .. I suspect that would fit an MX5? To make it weight efficient, you could remove the soft top and its mechanism?unpc said:
Having owned several, I came to the conclusion that I don't like convertibles so this would be a no from me which is a shame as I know I would love another MX5. It's a pity they don't do a proper coupe rather than that daft looking RC thing IMO.
Do like the ragtop, but a real coupe would make mich more sense than the RF. A greenhouse based on the MG B GT would be my ideal weekend run about. SFO said:
unpc said:
Having owned several, I came to the conclusion that I don't like convertibles so this would be a no from me which is a shame as I know I would love another MX5. It's a pity they don't do a proper coupe rather than that daft looking RC thing IMO.
Fiat do a CF hard top for the 124 Spider .. I suspect that would fit an MX5? To make it weight efficient, you could remove the soft top and its mechanism?i know its better than nothing but who also thinks that the 30mm of reach adjustment for the steering wheel sounds rather stingy? Arent most columns offering a good 50-60mm of reach?
i love the new look MK5 and I bet this is a great drive and surprised they havent just gone with downsized turbo power like everyone else seems to have done.
Last of the "old Skool" 4 cylinder engines?
i love the new look MK5 and I bet this is a great drive and surprised they havent just gone with downsized turbo power like everyone else seems to have done.
Last of the "old Skool" 4 cylinder engines?
SloCoach said:
So nearly 20 years since Honda brought us the S2000 with 240 BHP from 2 litres the Mazda can manage 184.
A little bit of an unfair comparison, I feel. They're managing 184BHP with CO2 @ 156g/Km and 40.9MPG. A quick Google suggests that the S2000 is 235g/Km and closer to ~30MPG. Efficiency stats might mean nothing to you, but the reality is, they do to manufacturers. If anything, I think Mazda should be applauded for achieving such a decent blend of power/economy without resorting to forced induction. Conscript said:
SloCoach said:
So nearly 20 years since Honda brought us the S2000 with 240 BHP from 2 litres the Mazda can manage 184.
A little bit of an unfair comparison, I feel. They're managing 184BHP with CO2 @ 156g/Km and 40.9MPG. A quick Google suggests that the S2000 is 235g/Km and closer to ~30MPG. Efficiency stats might mean nothing to you, but the reality is, they do to manufacturers. If anything, I think Mazda should be applauded for achieving such a decent blend of power/economy without resorting to forced induction. Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff