RE: Mazda MX-5 2.0 (2019): Driven
Discussion
underphil said:
greenarrow said:
What is it abut TVR drivers that they always have to stick the boot into the MX-5? They're applies and pears.
However, in general nice to see mostly positive comments in response to a PH article on a car. SO much negativity and hate on this site in general these days.
I love Mazda. They just do their own thing. I really fancy an RX-8 and I'd love another MX-5. I miss my NB, but rust did for it. Not being handy with a welding tool, it was starting to grate having to pay £300 each year to get it through the MOT. I really do hope the NDs don't go the same way.
Oh and yes, please stick the new engine in a Mazda 3 and Mazda 6.
I can't imagine this will ever reach any of Mazda's other models - they'll be getting the new HCCI engine next yearHowever, in general nice to see mostly positive comments in response to a PH article on a car. SO much negativity and hate on this site in general these days.
I love Mazda. They just do their own thing. I really fancy an RX-8 and I'd love another MX-5. I miss my NB, but rust did for it. Not being handy with a welding tool, it was starting to grate having to pay £300 each year to get it through the MOT. I really do hope the NDs don't go the same way.
Oh and yes, please stick the new engine in a Mazda 3 and Mazda 6.
ash73 said:
Apart from rust the other problem is the boring colours. I like the metallic blue but other than that if you don't like American candy red or monochrome white/grey/black you're snookered; why no brg, or mariner blue, or yellow?
Any problem can be solved. 
First of all, I'm sure that if you are seriously worried about the rust issue (despite the manufacturers warranty and the issue that any company might have with not honouring any warranty in this day and age.) your local dealer should be able to get extra protection professionally applied. Who knows, maybe they will throw it in FOC as part of the deal!
If you get one in the standard white which is FOC I have seen a few wrapped Mk4s and they look fantastic, yellow and orange particularly. Gold not so much.
. I'm not sure on the costs but on such a small car like the MX-5 it can't be much more than the cost of metallic paint and you will have a unique car. So has I mentioned, any problem can be solved.
Edited by The Hypno-Toad on Tuesday 4th September 09:23
greenarrow said:
underphil said:
greenarrow said:
What is it abut TVR drivers that they always have to stick the boot into the MX-5? They're applies and pears.
However, in general nice to see mostly positive comments in response to a PH article on a car. SO much negativity and hate on this site in general these days.
I love Mazda. They just do their own thing. I really fancy an RX-8 and I'd love another MX-5. I miss my NB, but rust did for it. Not being handy with a welding tool, it was starting to grate having to pay £300 each year to get it through the MOT. I really do hope the NDs don't go the same way.
Oh and yes, please stick the new engine in a Mazda 3 and Mazda 6.
I can't imagine this will ever reach any of Mazda's other models - they'll be getting the new HCCI engine next yearHowever, in general nice to see mostly positive comments in response to a PH article on a car. SO much negativity and hate on this site in general these days.
I love Mazda. They just do their own thing. I really fancy an RX-8 and I'd love another MX-5. I miss my NB, but rust did for it. Not being handy with a welding tool, it was starting to grate having to pay £300 each year to get it through the MOT. I really do hope the NDs don't go the same way.
Oh and yes, please stick the new engine in a Mazda 3 and Mazda 6.
Housey said:
ChimpOnGas said:
Still a bit down on torque, quite thirsty compared to my TVR no doubt, and clearly missing two cylinders plus a full 1,000cc of engine capacity, but granted we're getting a little bit closer 
The reliability point is of course complete nonsense, I don't care what Racketeer will try to have you believe any such engine transplant is very invasive heart surgery and comes with way more detail and packaging challenges than you could ever appreciate, unless that is you've been around this type of practice for years.
To get a car right in every detail respect take a huge amount of in depth development work, the idea of just slapping a different engine in there even if you've been told it's a properly engineered kit is pure fantasy, believe me when I say you're about to become a development engineer for the nest 2-3 years as you fight to get the thing right of your car.
£7k is also a lot of money to lay down on top of the price of buying the MX5 in the first place, I would also see that figure as a starting point because these things always have a habit of spiraling way beyond the original quoted conversion cost if you really want to do the job properly. Back in the real world I very much doubt you'll get much change out of £20k 'all in' by the time you've bought the donor car and addressed brakes, suspension and drivetrain properly to deliver genuine turn key product status which lets face it is a tuner car seldom achieves.
TVRs do have a reputation for unreliability but the truth is the expensive engine and drivetrain components in a Rover V8 Chimaera or Griffith is all bullet proof OEM developed engineering, just the wiring lets the cars down and that's easy and super cheap to resolve, but I admit it's not a car for someone afraid of picking up a screwdriver or resolving a poor earth or two. If you really think an MX5 with an engine transplant would be any different, I'm afraid to say you're verging delusional
The bottom line is choose either the so called 'BBR full fat naturally aspirated iteration' or the v6 conversion from Rocketeer Ltd, you need to accept you'll not come out of either project with change out of £20k, and in truth you'll probably spend a lot more, both will serve up a fuel bill that my duel fuel Chimaera with it's 48mpg average petrol equivalent (£0.11p a mile) simply laughs at
Following the conversion both will instantly become tuner/modified cars that will depreciate faster than may wish to admit to yourself, and here's the thing... both will still be considerably slower than my TVR
I call a 'FAIL' on every count from both MX5 hop up kits
The reliability point is of course complete nonsense, I don't care what Racketeer will try to have you believe any such engine transplant is very invasive heart surgery and comes with way more detail and packaging challenges than you could ever appreciate, unless that is you've been around this type of practice for years. To get a car right in every detail respect take a huge amount of in depth development work, the idea of just slapping a different engine in there even if you've been told it's a properly engineered kit is pure fantasy, believe me when I say you're about to become a development engineer for the nest 2-3 years as you fight to get the thing right of your car.
£7k is also a lot of money to lay down on top of the price of buying the MX5 in the first place, I would also see that figure as a starting point because these things always have a habit of spiraling way beyond the original quoted conversion cost if you really want to do the job properly. Back in the real world I very much doubt you'll get much change out of £20k 'all in' by the time you've bought the donor car and addressed brakes, suspension and drivetrain properly to deliver genuine turn key product status which lets face it is a tuner car seldom achieves.
TVRs do have a reputation for unreliability but the truth is the expensive engine and drivetrain components in a Rover V8 Chimaera or Griffith is all bullet proof OEM developed engineering, just the wiring lets the cars down and that's easy and super cheap to resolve, but I admit it's not a car for someone afraid of picking up a screwdriver or resolving a poor earth or two. If you really think an MX5 with an engine transplant would be any different, I'm afraid to say you're verging delusional
The bottom line is choose either the so called 'BBR full fat naturally aspirated iteration' or the v6 conversion from Rocketeer Ltd, you need to accept you'll not come out of either project with change out of £20k, and in truth you'll probably spend a lot more, both will serve up a fuel bill that my duel fuel Chimaera with it's 48mpg average petrol equivalent (£0.11p a mile) simply laughs at
Following the conversion both will instantly become tuner/modified cars that will depreciate faster than may wish to admit to yourself, and here's the thing... both will still be considerably slower than my TVR
I call a 'FAIL' on every count from both MX5 hop up kits
He is just trolling you all, just ignore him
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https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
tankplanker said:
dxg said:
It does now have this feature.
There's an upgrade kit for the existing cars just available (last week). Cost is about £200 and it comprises software and new usb sockets (note the photo with a picture of a phone pointing to one of the sockets)...
Thanks for confirming, just booked my in for the upgrade next week. I can't stand the Mazda sat nav so being able to use Google Maps will be a big upgrade.There's an upgrade kit for the existing cars just available (last week). Cost is about £200 and it comprises software and new usb sockets (note the photo with a picture of a phone pointing to one of the sockets)...
It works well and should be mandatory if you plan on using built in Sat Nav in the car as Mazda's Sat Nav is just awful.
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