RE: Shed of the Week: Jeep Cherokee 4.0 Orvis
Discussion
only1ian said:
Had the v8 overland addition of next reiteration of the Grand Cherokee. Nearly unstoppable with the quadra trac 2 system however interior was awful, fuel economy none existent and electrically frail. Still loved it!
There was a generation between shed’s Grand Cherokee and yours, not that it mattersI’ve always loved the ZJ and I’d like the rare, early Grand Wagoneer Version with fake wood panel exterior or a late, rare 5.9 LX Limited. World’s quickest SUV in its day, I think?
All V8 ZJs were left hand drive. I prefer the earlier cars that are a bit more AMC than Chrysler in ways like the badges using AMC typefaces
Edited by Jimmy Recard on Friday 7th September 10:11
I have had a couple of late 1990s 4.0 litre Jeeps.
Engines are bombproof and sound good, too. Miles better than the hopeless 4 pot petrol and diesel versions.
20mpg on a run, down to 15mpg around town.
Very comfortable old chariots, though the handling was pants.
Very capable off road.
Read diffs are made of chocolate. Expect sagging springs and problems with ABS. Bulbs and electrics are queer US type and hard to find.
Central locking and immobiliser are problematic, difficult to by-pass and have to be re-programmed at a main dealer. Dealers are thin on the ground and expensive.
The heater/ventilation system is operated by vacuum, which fails when the hoses perish, but they are very cheap and easy to fix.
In my view, the smaller Cherokee is more attractive prospect and miles better than a Land Rover.
I have a lot of time for these old Jeeps.
I sold this 75000 miles ages ago for £750, so the SOTW is rather expensive.
Engines are bombproof and sound good, too. Miles better than the hopeless 4 pot petrol and diesel versions.
20mpg on a run, down to 15mpg around town.
Very comfortable old chariots, though the handling was pants.
Very capable off road.
Read diffs are made of chocolate. Expect sagging springs and problems with ABS. Bulbs and electrics are queer US type and hard to find.
Central locking and immobiliser are problematic, difficult to by-pass and have to be re-programmed at a main dealer. Dealers are thin on the ground and expensive.
The heater/ventilation system is operated by vacuum, which fails when the hoses perish, but they are very cheap and easy to fix.
In my view, the smaller Cherokee is more attractive prospect and miles better than a Land Rover.
I have a lot of time for these old Jeeps.
I sold this 75000 miles ages ago for £750, so the SOTW is rather expensive.
Pat H said:
I have had a couple of late 1990s 4.0 litre Jeeps.
Engines are bombproof and sound good, too. Miles better than the hopeless 4 pot petrol and diesel versions.
20mpg on a run, down to 15mpg around town.
Very comfortable old chariots, though the handling was pants.
Very capable off road.
Read diffs are made of chocolate. Expect sagging springs and problems with ABS. Bulbs and electrics are queer US type and hard to find.
Central locking and immobiliser are problematic, difficult to by-pass and have to be re-programmed at a main dealer. Dealers are thin on the ground and expensive.
The heater/ventilation system is operated by vacuum, which fails when the hoses perish, but they are very cheap and easy to fix.
In my view, the smaller Cherokee is more attractive prospect and miles better than a Land Rover.
I have a lot of time for these old Jeeps.
I sold this 75000 miles ages ago for £750, so the SOTW is rather expensive.
This man has it spot on. Immobiliser failure is a worry (and what eventually killed mine as the dealer was clueless). Apart from that they are excellent, if really bad on fuel. One of the best towcars I've ever driven, up there with my current RR TDV8 (which should be better as it's a ton heavier and has twice the torque, but it's only just better). Also note that you can drift them as they have a RWD mode for the 4WD system. These things are important...Engines are bombproof and sound good, too. Miles better than the hopeless 4 pot petrol and diesel versions.
20mpg on a run, down to 15mpg around town.
Very comfortable old chariots, though the handling was pants.
Very capable off road.
Read diffs are made of chocolate. Expect sagging springs and problems with ABS. Bulbs and electrics are queer US type and hard to find.
Central locking and immobiliser are problematic, difficult to by-pass and have to be re-programmed at a main dealer. Dealers are thin on the ground and expensive.
The heater/ventilation system is operated by vacuum, which fails when the hoses perish, but they are very cheap and easy to fix.
In my view, the smaller Cherokee is more attractive prospect and miles better than a Land Rover.
I have a lot of time for these old Jeeps.
I sold this 75000 miles ages ago for £750, so the SOTW is rather expensive.
As others have pointed out, shed is a Grand Cherokee, which is heaver and not as much fun as the Cherokee. It's also £750 overpriced.
greenarrow said:
I think maybe you're missing the point of SOTY. Yes, it stands for "SHED" of the week, not "Sportscar" of the week.
Personally whilst its not my cup of tea, stuff like this old Jeep are what Shed is about.
shed should be something interesting.Personally whilst its not my cup of tea, stuff like this old Jeep are what Shed is about.
also this is too expensive at £1500
beanoir said:
Just a shame they're so s
t on the road!!
One of the worst cars (I use that term loosely) i've had the displeasure of owning. Up there with a Metro and a rusty Jag
I'm not sure what's bad about them on the road. They soak up rough roads very well and are much more comfortable than a lot of modern cars. Yes they roll a bit in the corners, but what can you expect? The acceleration is ok and you can bump them up curbs with the nice and soft, high profile tyres, instead of worrying about kerbing your Halfords 20" rims. Stress free motoring.t on the road!! One of the worst cars (I use that term loosely) i've had the displeasure of owning. Up there with a Metro and a rusty Jag
Mine runs on lpg and works out to about 40mpg (I almost always use it on long runs). It's been very reliable for a 700 Pound car that I bought a few years ago.
Not a bad shed really, although, as mentioned by others, it seems a bit expensive compared to others I've seen.
Pat H said:
I have had a couple of late 1990s 4.0 litre Jeeps.
Engines are bombproof and sound good, too. Miles better than the hopeless 4 pot petrol and diesel versions.
20mpg on a run, down to 15mpg around town.
Very comfortable old chariots, though the handling was pants.
Very capable off road.
Read diffs are made of chocolate. Expect sagging springs and problems with ABS. Bulbs and electrics are queer US type and hard to find.
Central locking and immobiliser are problematic, difficult to by-pass and have to be re-programmed at a main dealer. Dealers are thin on the ground and expensive.
The heater/ventilation system is operated by vacuum, which fails when the hoses perish, but they are very cheap and easy to fix.
In my view, the smaller Cherokee is more attractive prospect and miles better than a Land Rover.
I have a lot of time for these old Jeeps.
I sold this 75000 miles ages ago for £750, so the SOTW is rather expensive.
That is lovely, especially in that colour. Slightly disappointed to see the SOTW was a Grand Cherokee, which I like, but not as much as yours.Engines are bombproof and sound good, too. Miles better than the hopeless 4 pot petrol and diesel versions.
20mpg on a run, down to 15mpg around town.
Very comfortable old chariots, though the handling was pants.
Very capable off road.
Read diffs are made of chocolate. Expect sagging springs and problems with ABS. Bulbs and electrics are queer US type and hard to find.
Central locking and immobiliser are problematic, difficult to by-pass and have to be re-programmed at a main dealer. Dealers are thin on the ground and expensive.
The heater/ventilation system is operated by vacuum, which fails when the hoses perish, but they are very cheap and easy to fix.
In my view, the smaller Cherokee is more attractive prospect and miles better than a Land Rover.
I have a lot of time for these old Jeeps.
I sold this 75000 miles ages ago for £750, so the SOTW is rather expensive.
I guess people want different things from their SOTW article. I always look at it as an excuse to write a light hearted article or pick out an oddball vehicle (absolute favourite being the Rover Chairman, which I believe was purchased
Still own the damn thing! It's cost me far more in tax than it did to buy. It's probably awful - but it's apparently as hardy as Christopher Lambert in a kilt. And it has it's own charm to drive - 190hp through the 215 section AT tyres in a 1.5ton vehicle that's vaguely directed via a steering box is a bit of a giggle.
Regular Car Reviews perfectly described the steering on an XJ at the end of this video: https://youtu.be/7rAuSo4-Tjc?t=5m4s
Pat H said:
I have had a couple of late 1990s 4.0 litre Jeeps.
Engines are bombproof and sound good, too. Miles better than the hopeless 4 pot petrol and diesel versions.
I picked up an XJ 7 years ago for carting crap about the place when doing some building work on the house. Purchased sight unseen on an ebay auction for about £700. I always said I'd make basic running repairs on it, but anything major and I'd just scrap it.Engines are bombproof and sound good, too. Miles better than the hopeless 4 pot petrol and diesel versions.
Still own the damn thing! It's cost me far more in tax than it did to buy. It's probably awful - but it's apparently as hardy as Christopher Lambert in a kilt. And it has it's own charm to drive - 190hp through the 215 section AT tyres in a 1.5ton vehicle that's vaguely directed via a steering box is a bit of a giggle.
Regular Car Reviews perfectly described the steering on an XJ at the end of this video: https://youtu.be/7rAuSo4-Tjc?t=5m4s
Fkk me I hate black cars and I hate overweight SUVs just as much so this is just about as far from my ideal form of transport as I can imagine (I suppose a BMW badge might complete the horror)
Just utterly horrid.
I suppose it could be recycled into a nice fridge or perhaps use the seats in your (wooden) shed?
Bleuurgh.
Just utterly horrid.
I suppose it could be recycled into a nice fridge or perhaps use the seats in your (wooden) shed?
Bleuurgh.
The irony - I've just arrived in Colombia, in a city on the northern Caribbean coast and last night whilst out with an agent looking for an apartment I spotted one of these parked up, an Orvis too exactly like this. I remember the brand from my days flyfishing, which was why it caught my eye and it seemed strange to see mention of the brand here.
It could be a sign that I should buy one, but with some many big old American V8s here and fuel at 50p per litre, there's quite a few other things that are catching my eye at the moment.
Quick look on the classifieds here, there a load more expensive - roughly 3K for a 98 with about 120.000km - OUCH!!!
It could be a sign that I should buy one, but with some many big old American V8s here and fuel at 50p per litre, there's quite a few other things that are catching my eye at the moment.
Quick look on the classifieds here, there a load more expensive - roughly 3K for a 98 with about 120.000km - OUCH!!!
Pat H said:
Is that the mk1? You don’t see many of them for sale now and when they are they are always overpriced. Is the shed of the week a mk2 model? Take it the 4.0 is the best engine to have? Any other know issues apart from the ones mentioned above like electrics and rust?
greenarrow said:
g7jhp said:
SOTW hits a new low, last weeks 306 D Turbo was bad but a shagged out SUV.
Perhaps it's time to revamp for the format if this is as Pistonheads as it gets.
Remember, Speed (and style used to) Matter!!!
I think maybe you're missing the point of SOTY. Yes, it stands for "SHED" of the week, not "Sportscar" of the week.Perhaps it's time to revamp for the format if this is as Pistonheads as it gets.
Remember, Speed (and style used to) Matter!!!
Personally whilst its not my cup of tea, stuff like this old Jeep are what Shed is about.
Go and buy a Golf R on a PCP deal this weekend and tell all your friends on Facebook about it's 0-60.
ST Ford said:
Loving that jeep great colour aswell. I’ve always loved the Square look of these they just look like a classic American rugged 4x4 and the 4.0 sounds great. I need to own one at some point to scratch the itch before they rocket in value due to being rare.
Is that the mk1? You don’t see many of them for sale now and when they are they are always overpriced. Is the shed of the week a mk2 model? Take it the 4.0 is the best engine to have? Any other know issues apart from the ones mentioned above like electrics and rust?
SOTW isn't a Cherokee, it's a Grand Cherokee.Is that the mk1? You don’t see many of them for sale now and when they are they are always overpriced. Is the shed of the week a mk2 model? Take it the 4.0 is the best engine to have? Any other know issues apart from the ones mentioned above like electrics and rust?
The greeny/blue one in the picture is a late model Cherokee XJ. You see a lot more of them than the earlier boxier ones as they massively improved the corrosion resistance on them.
The one Ma' Fratelli drove in The Goonies is an early one.
Most notable thing on the early ones for me was Jeeps attempt to get every single control onto one indicator stalk
Rumblestripe said:
Fkk me I hate black cars and I hate overweight SUVs just as much so this is just about as far from my ideal form of transport as I can imagine (I suppose a BMW badge might complete the horror)
Just utterly horrid.
I suppose it could be recycled into a nice fridge or perhaps use the seats in your (wooden) shed?
Bleuurgh.
Ironically, by modern standards these aren't particularly heavy and with the low down torque of that big six they are quicker than you'd expect up to 40 ish. Quite fun to drive in a sJust utterly horrid.
I suppose it could be recycled into a nice fridge or perhaps use the seats in your (wooden) shed?
Bleuurgh.
t sort of way, but not my cup of tea for a daily either. As others have mentioned the diesels are tragic things, IMHO the 4.0 six is the one to have in these and an XJ Cherokee.
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