Modern BMWs - The ultimate upperclass chav machine
Discussion
Brooking10 said:
Deep Thought said:
Yeah, like with our other friend I suspect the overly critical of others facade covers a lot of issues behind the scenes.
cb1965 said:
The situation we see today on the streets? You mean knife crime and moped based thieves are down to the accessibility of finance for premium brands of car?
Honestly what a load of drivel, stop worrying about who is driving what car and then all this goes away!
That's a bit cheap to resort to extreme comparative scenarios as a counter argument.Honestly what a load of drivel, stop worrying about who is driving what car and then all this goes away!
You cannot ignore the growing amount of young/inexperienced and belligerent people now driving around in cars of the 150-230 bhp range, much more capable than what was only available to them back before the 2000's. This very profile of driver combined with a moderate/good performing vehicle with driver aids and isolates drivers from speed translates to them being mobile hazards.
Private plates and rude parking aside, the less tolerable issues I observe almost every day is that said drivers not giving way at roundabouts and junctions due to their overconfidence in the car or just plain impatience and contempt for other drivers.
Exiting busy slip roads (M11 south to M25 is a classic spot) where the neo-BMW/Audi driver would wait until 20-30 yards whilst on lane 2 or lane 3, before forcing themselves into lane 1 and then clipping into the slip road exit when there were safe gaps to merge in 100 yards or so behind.
Poor judgement of appropriate speed given the conditions, 45 in a 30, 100 in a 60 etc etc
None of the above will be fixed by arguing on a forum, especially with those who have vested interest in defending the brand of car mentioned here, I only comment on what I observe.
Edited by TwinExit on Thursday 27th September 13:53
TwinExit said:
cb1965 said:
The situation we see today on the streets? You mean knife crime and moped based thieves are down to the accessibility of finance for premium brands of car?
Honestly what a load of drivel, stop worrying about who is driving what car and then all this goes away!
That's a bit cheap to resort to extreme comparative scenarios as a counter argument.Honestly what a load of drivel, stop worrying about who is driving what car and then all this goes away!
You cannot ignore the growing amount of young/inexperienced and belligerent people now driving around in cars of the 150-230 bhp range, much more capable than what was only available to them back before the 2000's. This very profile of driver combined with a moderate/good performing vehicle with driver aids and isolates drivers from speed translates to them being mobile hazards.
Private plates and rude parking aside, the less tolerable issues I observe almost every day is that said drivers not giving way at roundabouts and junctions due to their overconfidence in the car or just plain impatience and contempt for other drivers.
Exiting busy slip roads (M11 south to M25 is a classic spot) where the neo-BMW/Audi driver would wait until 20-30 yards whilst on lane 2 or lane 3, before forcing themselves into lane 1 and then clipping into the slip road exit when there were safe gaps to merge in 100 yards or so behind.
Poor judgement of appropriate speed given the conditions, 45 in a 30, 100 in a 60 etc etc
None of the above will be fixed by arguing on a forum, especially with those who have vested interest in defending the brand of car mentioned here, I only comment on what I observe.
TwinExit said:
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Exiting busy slip roads (M11 south to M25 is a classic spot) where the neo-BMW/Audi driver would wait until 20-30 yards whilst on lane 2 or lane 3, before forcing themselves into lane 1 and then clipping into the slip road exit when there were safe gaps to merge in 100 yards or so behind.
None of the above will be fixed by arguing on a forum, especially with those who have vested interest in defending the brand of car mentioned here, I only comment on what I observe.
That is not exclusive to BMW/Audi drivers (I am not sure what you mean by ‘neo’. Vans of all types appear to do similar. If you only comment on what you observe, my conclusion is you are not very observant.Exiting busy slip roads (M11 south to M25 is a classic spot) where the neo-BMW/Audi driver would wait until 20-30 yards whilst on lane 2 or lane 3, before forcing themselves into lane 1 and then clipping into the slip road exit when there were safe gaps to merge in 100 yards or so behind.
None of the above will be fixed by arguing on a forum, especially with those who have vested interest in defending the brand of car mentioned here, I only comment on what I observe.
Brooking10 said:
cb1965 said:
None of which has anything to do with BMW and everything to do with society and the ever decreasing standards of said society.
I’d agree with that
Triumph Man said:
I have two BMWs - one is 16 years old and has a private plate, the other is 23 years old and has no MoT and is currently parked on the lawn...
Careful now, under PH customs parking on the lawn is considered a pinnacle attribute of council av185 said:
It's awfully quiet in here without Yonex the official Chav BMW spokesperson.
Presumably he is fretting over the increased 'mumflies' on his new downgraded 1 series.
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Bless!
Cracks me up everytime I hear that word Presumably he is fretting over the increased 'mumflies' on his new downgraded 1 series.
:Bless!
TwinExit said:
cb1965 said:
The situation we see today on the streets? You mean knife crime and moped based thieves are down to the accessibility of finance for premium brands of car?
Honestly what a load of drivel, stop worrying about who is driving what car and then all this goes away!
That's a bit cheap to resort to extreme comparative scenarios as a counter argument.Honestly what a load of drivel, stop worrying about who is driving what car and then all this goes away!
You cannot ignore the growing amount of young/inexperienced and belligerent people now driving around in cars of the 150-230 bhp range, much more capable than what was only available to them back before the 2000's. This very profile of driver combined with a moderate/good performing vehicle with driver aids and isolates drivers from speed translates to them being mobile hazards.
Private plates and rude parking aside, the less tolerable issues I observe almost every day is that said drivers not giving way at roundabouts and junctions due to their overconfidence in the car or just plain impatience and contempt for other drivers.
Exiting busy slip roads (M11 south to M25 is a classic spot) where the neo-BMW/Audi driver would wait until 20-30 yards whilst on lane 2 or lane 3, before forcing themselves into lane 1 and then clipping into the slip road exit when there were safe gaps to merge in 100 yards or so behind.
Poor judgement of appropriate speed given the conditions, 45 in a 30, 100 in a 60 etc etc
None of the above will be fixed by arguing on a forum, especially with those who have vested interest in defending the brand of car mentioned here, I only comment on what I observe.
Edited by TwinExit on Thursday 27th September 13:53
J4CKO said:
And me, I didnt get significantly any more obnoxious than I already was by buying a BMW but I see a lot of unpleasant behaviour than doesnt anger me so much as make me disappointed.
Driving a BMW doesn't make you obnoxious.It is the brand, the 'aspirational' value that attracts flamboyant/competitive personalities from all income bands.
bodhi said:
Damn all those BMW and Audi drivers using the road properly, and not merging half a mile beforehand like a muppet.....
Cutting into a slip road exit just a few yards from the barrier is not using the road 'properly'.In civilised society (that is outside that of Stoke-on-trent), you look for a reasonable gap to position your vehicle within without causing other drivers to change speed or direction.
Pica-Pica said:
That is not exclusive to BMW/Audi drivers (I am not sure what you mean by ‘neo’. Vans of all types appear to do similar. If you only comment on what you observe, my conclusion is you are not very observant.
This isn't about Van drivers, but I see your point.cb1965 said:
None of which has anything to do with BMW and everything to do with society and the ever decreasing standards of said society.
That's a poor excuse, many of observed offenders are driving a BMW or Audi.You can find dozens of compilation videos that prove this, and with the growing amount of 'GoPro' vigilante types now, it will be impossible to dismiss like you have just done.
TwinExit said:
Cutting into a slip road exit just a few yards from the barrier is not using the road 'properly'.
In civilised society (that is outside that of Stoke-on-trent), you look for a reasonable gap to position your vehicle within without causing other drivers to change speed or direction.
Is it something about 911s ?In civilised society (that is outside that of Stoke-on-trent), you look for a reasonable gap to position your vehicle within without causing other drivers to change speed or direction.
Brooking10 said:
TwinExit said:
Cutting into a slip road exit just a few yards from the barrier is not using the road 'properly'.
In civilised society (that is outside that of Stoke-on-trent), you look for a reasonable gap to position your vehicle within without causing other drivers to change speed or direction.
Is it something about 911s ?In civilised society (that is outside that of Stoke-on-trent), you look for a reasonable gap to position your vehicle within without causing other drivers to change speed or direction.
It’s called ‘merging’ everywhere in the world does it better than the UK.
yonex said:
Has to be.
It’s called ‘merging’ everywhere in the world does it better than the UK.
True, in Holland we had 'ritsen' which translates to zipping. They even had TV adverts to explain/remind people how to do it properly.It’s called ‘merging’ everywhere in the world does it better than the UK.
https://youtu.be/8pOuwdQuMgE
Don't even need to speak Dutch to understand the advert.
TwinExit said:
Cutting into a slip road exit just a few yards from the barrier is not using the road 'properly'.
In civilised society (that is outside that of Stoke-on-trent), you look for a reasonable gap to position your vehicle within without causing other drivers to change speed or direction.
Nope, I'd say in a civilised society, people follow the rules of the road, and do crazy things like merge at the merge point. Just because you want to merge half a mile early and double the size of the queue you're in doesn't mean everyone has to. In civilised society (that is outside that of Stoke-on-trent), you look for a reasonable gap to position your vehicle within without causing other drivers to change speed or direction.
Even Stokies can figure that out.
Mike335i said:
yonex said:
Has to be.
It’s called ‘merging’ everywhere in the world does it better than the UK.
True, in Holland we had 'ritsen' which translates to zipping. They even had TV adverts to explain/remind people how to do it properly.It’s called ‘merging’ everywhere in the world does it better than the UK.
https://youtu.be/8pOuwdQuMgE
Don't even need to speak Dutch to understand the advert.
Infuriating when there is always that one person who doesn't want to follow what everyone else is doing (letting one car in / zipping). To be honest, most times the 'tool' is someone in a right s
tbox, refusing to let you in, and if he/she spots you in a german car, you ain't getting in.bodhi said:
Nope, I'd say in a civilised society, people follow the rules of the road, and do crazy things like merge at the merge point. Just because you want to merge half a mile early and double the size of the queue you're in doesn't mean everyone has to.
Even Stokies can figure that out.
It seemed to me that Twinexit was talking about people who cut others up at the last moment to get onto a slip road, not about queuing, hence his reference to "safe" gaps. If you think cutting people up like that is civilised, I'd suggest you may need to re-evaluate your definition of a civilised society.Even Stokies can figure that out.
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