RE: GMC Typhoon: Spotted
Discussion
Jimmy Recard said:
RacerMike said:
Anyone fancy trying a 60mph lane change in it? :S
Why would anyone fancy changing lanes at any particular speed?
RacerMike said:
Exactly! This existed before the days of Roll Stability Control, which means you might need to brush up on your Terry Grant impression! Tall SUV’s, lots of power and low profile(ish) tyres aren’t particularly known for their resistance to wanting to go onto two wheels!
It seriously won't have the slightest problem doing what you describe. It'll just follow the line you steer it down perfectlyEviltad said:
rampageturke said:
Please stop giving Motorhub publicity.
Not again!!!Its such a shame they've got such a bad reputation as the amount of rare and interesting stock they seem to have would make them a PH favourite otherwise.
Someone in the money laundering department at Motorhub has eclectic taste.
And it makes a slightly better change to the usual promoted fayre from 4starClassics and KGF (or as my friend called them, WTF) who seem to feature with monotonous regularity.
Having said that, they do seem to have very nice, news-worthy cars even if the prices are dreamland...
Jimmy Recard said:
RacerMike said:
Exactly! This existed before the days of Roll Stability Control, which means you might need to brush up on your Terry Grant impression! Tall SUV’s, lots of power and low profile(ish) tyres aren’t particularly known for their resistance to wanting to go onto two wheels!
It seriously won't have the slightest problem doing what you describe. It'll just follow the line you steer it down perfectlyJust to check, can anyone find verified stats on this? I know it's 4wd but 200hp/tonne is less than a lot of modern cars and the acceleration is apparently a lot quicker.
The magazines seem to quote 4.9-5.3 seconds to 60 and 13.9-14.1 for the quarter, which is more in line with what I'd expect.
4.3 seconds is a seriously rapid car. I guess this has (lack of) weight on its side!
The magazines seem to quote 4.9-5.3 seconds to 60 and 13.9-14.1 for the quarter, which is more in line with what I'd expect.
4.3 seconds is a seriously rapid car. I guess this has (lack of) weight on its side!
RacerMike said:
Understandably I imagine you’ve never driven a 60mph lane change in an SUV. You’d honestly be surprised just how easy it is to get them up on two wheels without any control system to stop it happening.....many 90s Ford Explorer owners found out the hard way!
Are you joking? Of course I have and I've never managed to put one on two wheels.This WILL quite happily do that and more.
4.3 litre turbo v6 and doesnt even make 300bhp....
this car would have a power to weight ratio of about 160bhp. A 0-60 time of 6 seconds is more believable and still unlikely
this car would have a power to weight ratio of about 160bhp. A 0-60 time of 6 seconds is more believable and still unlikely
Edited by lotuslover69 on Wednesday 12th September 19:23
Edited by lotuslover69 on Wednesday 12th September 19:25
Jimmy Recard said:
RacerMike said:
Understandably I imagine you’ve never driven a 60mph lane change in an SUV. You’d honestly be surprised just how easy it is to get them up on two wheels without any control system to stop it happening.....many 90s Ford Explorer owners found out the hard way!
Are you joking? Of course I have and I've never managed to put one on two wheels.This WILL quite happily do that and more.
60mph double lane change is the modern industry standard manoeuvre that test for vehicle stability. The reason being, people tend to do that manoeuvre in an emergency! Older cars without stability control aren’t the best in these situations, and as such, I’m always a bit dubious about the idea of driving them. You’d honestly be surprised out easily a car will go up. Believe it or not, a current generation 5 series touring has roll mitigation control if you spec a pano roof, as it will go up on two wheels in some situations.
lotuslover69 said:
4.3 litre turbo v6 and doesnt even make 300bhp....
this car would have a power to weight ratio of about 160bhp. A 0-60 time of 6 seconds is more believable and still unlikely
here you go...this car would have a power to weight ratio of about 160bhp. A 0-60 time of 6 seconds is more believable and still unlikely
https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/a29060/dr...
RacerMike said:
Jimmy Recard said:
RacerMike said:
Exactly! This existed before the days of Roll Stability Control, which means you might need to brush up on your Terry Grant impression! Tall SUV’s, lots of power and low profile(ish) tyres aren’t particularly known for their resistance to wanting to go onto two wheels!
It seriously won't have the slightest problem doing what you describe. It'll just follow the line you steer it down perfectly- one of the major problems was the Firestone tyres IIRC
- the Cyclone and Typhoon are both lowered (unlike the Explorer)
lotuslover69 said:
4.3 litre turbo v6 and doesnt even make 300bhp....
this car would have a power to weight ratio of about 160bhp. A 0-60 time of 6 seconds is more believable and still unlikely
Lots of low down torque and only 4 gears, I imagine no gear change before 60 is contributing to this time.this car would have a power to weight ratio of about 160bhp. A 0-60 time of 6 seconds is more believable and still unlikely
Edited by lotuslover69 on Wednesday 12th September 19:23
Edited by lotuslover69 on Wednesday 12th September 19:25
I wish I had the bottle to buy this, whoever does should be given a cape and a superhero name to go by...
irocfan said:
couple of issues with that...
- one of the major problems was the Firestone tyres IIRC
- the Cyclone and Typhoon are both lowered (unlike the Explorer)
It was blamed on the tyres (or tires [sic]) but it’s no conincidence that every Ford since that’s had a vaguely high ride height has had Roll Stability Control.- one of the major problems was the Firestone tyres IIRC
- the Cyclone and Typhoon are both lowered (unlike the Explorer)
You’d be surprised how easily things go up. It really doesn’t take a great deal of CoG increase to drive a requirement for it.
RacerMike said:
irocfan said:
couple of issues with that...
- one of the major problems was the Firestone tyres IIRC
- the Cyclone and Typhoon are both lowered (unlike the Explorer)
It was blamed on the tyres (or tires [sic]) but it’s no conincidence that every Ford since that’s had a vaguely high ride height has had Roll Stability Control.- one of the major problems was the Firestone tyres IIRC
- the Cyclone and Typhoon are both lowered (unlike the Explorer)
You’d be surprised how easily things go up. It really doesn’t take a great deal of CoG increase to drive a requirement for it.
daniel1920 said:
Lots of low down torque and only 4 gears, I imagine no gear change before 60 is contributing to this time.
I wish I had the bottle to buy this, whoever does should be given a cape and a superhero name to go by...
It runs a 700r4 autobox, 1st gear ratio is something like 3:1 , great for launches - but quickly runs out of puff and needs another gear. I wish I had the bottle to buy this, whoever does should be given a cape and a superhero name to go by...
I run the same box in my 5.7 turbo, they can be quite fragile boxes in std form. I learnt alot about how to make the box last behind my motor from the big power sy/ty guys funnily enough.
Eviltad said:
rampageturke said:
Please stop giving Motorhub publicity.
Not again!!!Its such a shame they've got such a bad reputation as the amount of rare and interesting stock they seem to have would make them a PH favourite otherwise.
Someone in the money laundering department at Motorhub has eclectic taste.
Is there an external site or page someone can link to to read about exactly what everyone is hinting at?!
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