JLR on 3 day week

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skyrover

12,674 posts

205 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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Crap build quality
Too much reliance on diesel
Land Rover has lost it's way now it no longer has a credible 4x4 in the Defender

MDMA .

8,901 posts

102 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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My mate did a stint at Halewood. The new Evoques were pissing water in when built/parked up outside. All had to be called back prior to delivery and the bodge was to fill the gaps with black sealer from behind the dash smile
I wouldn't entertain any JLR product. Shame, but way too expensive for what they are.

jamoor

14,506 posts

216 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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CarAbuser said:
The brexit scapegoat is getting old. The reason sales for JLR are falling are due to the growing perception of poor reliability and build quality among customers.
Diesel.

Bodo

12,375 posts

267 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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CarAbuser said:
The brexit scapegoat is getting old. The reason sales for JLR are falling are due to the growing perception of poor reliability and build quality among customers.
That build quality scapegoat is even older than the Brexit - dates back to long before British Leyland.

"A gentleman does not motor about after dark!"


StanleyT

1,994 posts

80 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
What's the problem? Looks OK from here.
Looks awful, great big air gap under the rear sill. Like you could fit an immigrant or two under there. Get an SUV if you want your arse end to look like that.

Anyway, three day week, does that mean the factory will be producing Wednesday afternoon cars now instead of Friday ones?




Edited by StanleyT on Monday 17th September 21:34

rustfalia

1,935 posts

167 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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Funny reading all the comments from the 'experts' on here.
This is pretty much all linked the the diesel uncertainty and also awaiting tax law changes in China.
This is not a surprise to anyone in the know.
CB make mainly Jaguars which arn't the money makers or bigger sellers.

rustfalia

1,935 posts

167 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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MDMA . said:
My mate did a stint at Halewood. The new Evoques were pissing water in when built/parked up outside. All had to be called back prior to delivery and the bodge was to fill the gaps with black sealer from behind the dash smile
I wouldn't entertain any JLR product. Shame, but way too expensive for what they are.
Funny how you think things like that don't happen at other car manufactures.

Hungrymc

6,673 posts

138 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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rustfalia said:
Funny how you think things like that don't happen at other car manufactures.
This thread has me in bits.... Find a leak on launch, pull the cars back and plug the leak... And that’s an example of them being crap... LOL

Some of the recalls around the industry recently (accelerator pedals, airbags etc)....But someone’s mate saw a RangeRover on a low loader so they are worse etc etc....

rustfalia

1,935 posts

167 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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Hungrymc said:
This thread has me in bits.... Find a leak on launch, pull the cars back and plug the leak... And that’s an example of them being crap... LOL

Some of the recalls around the industry recently (accelerator pedals, airbags etc)....But someone’s mate saw a RangeRover on a low loader so they are worse etc etc....
Exactly.


sparks_E46

12,738 posts

214 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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Dakkon said:
Lets put it this way, based on a friends experience, an Evoque using a litre of oil per 1000 miles is not considered a warranty claim....
Correct, because it’s completely normal and is the same with Audi, VW etc etc.

sparks_E46

12,738 posts

214 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
Nickbrapp said:
I saw a new XF estate the other day and my god what a fk up at the back

What's the problem? Looks OK from here.
Agreed, I think the facelift XF is a handsome car.

Olivera

7,154 posts

240 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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Both the F type and XF estate have nice looking rear ends, with the former being classed as beautiful in coupe form when released.

Otispunkmeyer

12,606 posts

156 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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Ninja59 said:
It is weird, I barely see any new XF's on the road, I must have seen only a few in years. The old XF on the other hand....it just seemed to grab peoples attention something far from doing it the 2nd generation has.

The XE well I looked at one and walked away in under 5 minutes. That killed that stone dead.

Flipside not building an SUV there is killing it as well. They are only building models which are not as in demand.
See a few XFs about and that is about it. I only really see XE's because of where I work (not JLR, but a test house), I don't see any on the road. See quite a few F-Paces and F-Types mind. But then, no E-Paces.... not surprising, its far too small, despite outwardly appearing like a bloater of an SUV crossover thingy.

Otispunkmeyer

12,606 posts

156 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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Wooda80 said:
AlexS said:
They have the E-Pace though and the market is moving from estates to SUVs.

The I-Pace is well ahead of their competition as well.
E-Pace and I-Pace both built in Graz, Austria
There is a new Land Rover plant in Slovakia, as well as others around the world serving local markets.
Castle Bromwich is on a 3 day week.

Deduce from those statements what you will....
2 make big fat SUVs that everyone likes
1 makes anonymous looking saloons with diesel engines that no one wants anymore.

Otispunkmeyer

12,606 posts

156 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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Swampy1982 said:
grumpynuts said:
A lot of it down to their reliance on diesel engines in their cars. The diesel new car market is down over 30% year to date and JLR sales are worse than that. They are making cars no one wants to buy at the moment basically.
Can I ask your source, I've seen other articles stating the market is relatively flat for diesels so would be interested in seeing your article

Edit- no need, I searched and there are loads of articles about it, I'm genuinely shocked they dropped so much year on year

Edited by Swampy1982 on Monday 17th September 15:59
hit up SMMT anytime you need this sort of info. I believe they put out sales numbers and general population (of vehicles) every quarter. Quite a useful site.

Buster73

5,066 posts

154 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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35% off rrp on a friend and family plan for JLR employees, tells you all you need to know.


anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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Story - JLR are turning down production of Jaguar saloon/estate cars.

PH gurus - it’s because Land Rover sell too many diesels, they haven’t replaced the Defender yet and my mate’s Mrs who wants to be Victoria Beckham has a very unreliable Evoque.

Top stuff as ever smile

Sheets Tabuer

18,982 posts

216 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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Nothing to do with they look like mondeos and about twice as much?

Flumpo

3,763 posts

74 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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Brooking10 said:
Story - JLR are turning down production of Jaguar saloon/estate cars.

PH gurus - it’s because Land Rover sell too many diesels, they haven’t replaced the Defender yet and my mate’s Mrs who wants to be Victoria Beckham has a very unreliable Evoque.

Top stuff as ever smile
Top post.

numtumfutunch

4,729 posts

139 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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sparks_E46 said:
Agreed, I think the facelift XF is a handsome car.
Outside maybe but inside its a time warp compared to the 5 series and the V90/S90
Which I know because I had a 5 Touring and an XF Sportbrake on 24h tests over the summer

The XF was released to me with its fuel light on which felt to me like the dealer CBA but the condemnation I got on here made me feel like a tightwad instead #Yorkshire

After putting fuel in it and spending 2h on the motorway it wasnt to my taste, cheap as chips mind you but I didnt get on with the seat squab (abysmal adjustment) and the infotainment and general inside vibe was miles from where BMW, MB and Volvo are currently at

So no surprise here that theyre struggling for sales - crap dealers and dated product

Cheers