RE: Suzuki Jimny (2019): Driven
Discussion
Krikkit said:
Maybe if you jack up the suspension, cut the bodywork away and fit some big off-road tyres then I can imagine the Panda doing quite well too.
No.. it's lacks live axles, a ladder chassis and a low range transfer case.This prevents things such as articulation and suspension/body lifts, along with torque multiplication through low gearing.
You can also fit differential lockers to the jimny allowing fully locked 4 wheel drive, or bolt winches and recovery points to the solid chassis.
The jimny's setup is far stronger and more durable, along with cost and simplicity of repairs when something does break.
Edited by skyrover on Tuesday 18th September 20:55
skyrover said:
No.. it's lacks live axles, a ladder chassis and a low range transfer case.
This prevents things such as articulation and suspension/body lifts, along with torque multiplication through low gearing.
You can also fit differential lockers to the jimny allowing fully locked 4 wheel drive. Or bolt winches and recovery points to the solid chassis.
The jimny's setup is far stronger and more durable, along with cost and simplicity of repairs when something does break.
The Panda isn't an off roader, so it would be quite a shock if it was as capable as an off roader. Whilst on the subject, the Audi S4 Avant is hopeless in an off road situation. Back to the drawing board Audi. This prevents things such as articulation and suspension/body lifts, along with torque multiplication through low gearing.
You can also fit differential lockers to the jimny allowing fully locked 4 wheel drive. Or bolt winches and recovery points to the solid chassis.
The jimny's setup is far stronger and more durable, along with cost and simplicity of repairs when something does break.
Edited by skyrover on Tuesday 18th September 20:55
skyrover said:
No.. it's lacks live axles, a ladder chassis and a low range transfer case.
This prevents things such as articulation and suspension/body lifts, along with torque multiplication through low gearing.
You can also fit differential lockers to the jimny allowing fully locked 4 wheel drive, or bolt winches and recovery points to the solid chassis.
The jimny's setup is far stronger and more durable, along with cost and simplicity of repairs when something does break.
I didn't say as good, obviously it won't be, but I'm sure it would surprise in its capability.This prevents things such as articulation and suspension/body lifts, along with torque multiplication through low gearing.
You can also fit differential lockers to the jimny allowing fully locked 4 wheel drive, or bolt winches and recovery points to the solid chassis.
The jimny's setup is far stronger and more durable, along with cost and simplicity of repairs when something does break.
Edited by skyrover on Tuesday 18th September 20:55
And it would be a significantly better road vehicle.
That said, I do rather love the Jimny.
underphil said:
so in essence
Great off-road, which almost all owners will never do
Terrible on-road, where owners will spend all of their time
Yeah...but who cares, look at it! I think a lot of people do buy cars based on how they look -whether they admit it or not -so I expect it could sell reasonably well. I certainly want one and have no real need for it and know how uncomfortable it would be. Great off-road, which almost all owners will never do
Terrible on-road, where owners will spend all of their time
simonbamg said:
I’d take a glc 63 s 4 matic coupe over one of these, that’s the suv sweet spot
Sure, but Jimny isn’t a SUV (as how we define SUV this side of the pond), is it? So wether that GLC AMG thing can hit anyone’s sweet spot as a SUV or not, has nothing to do with a true 4X4 off-roader like Jimny...I had a sj413 in custard yellow. As basic as a hammer with guesswork steering and always smelled of oil in a nice way.
Ran it for a year they sold it for more than I paid for it. Granted, the Jimny won’t be anywhere near as basic but I will be off for a look when they arrive in the showroom.
Ran it for a year they sold it for more than I paid for it. Granted, the Jimny won’t be anywhere near as basic but I will be off for a look when they arrive in the showroom.
underphil said:
so in essence
Great off-road, which almost all owners will never do
Terrible on-road, where owners will spend all of their time
Then they either bought it for the looks or bought the wrong car. A McLaren P1 is pretty crap if I judge it solely on how my Labrador fits in the boot... Great off-road, which almost all owners will never do
Terrible on-road, where owners will spend all of their time
Lots of people assuming it's going to be crap on road. But what do you mean by crap?
I'm sure it's going to have low mechanical grip limits, with A/T tyres, compliant (or bouncy) suspension and SWB, but I can also guarantee with RWD and the same limited grip available it will be a lot more of a hoot than most people realise, with easily exploitable limits that will make damp roads a chance for low speed antics. Anyone who's eve driven the old school gen 1 Vitara Sport should now they're a surprisingly entertaining format, if not necessarily "good" by modern standards. My Landy series 1 was the most scared and entertained I've ever been on road, but I would never have called it anything other than terrifying... I'd much rather hoon about in this than something modern with too much grip, silly profile tyres and electric steering. Does anyone know if it's got a traditional steering rack, on that point? Given 4x4 creds I'd like to think so for ruggednes.
I'm sure it's going to have low mechanical grip limits, with A/T tyres, compliant (or bouncy) suspension and SWB, but I can also guarantee with RWD and the same limited grip available it will be a lot more of a hoot than most people realise, with easily exploitable limits that will make damp roads a chance for low speed antics. Anyone who's eve driven the old school gen 1 Vitara Sport should now they're a surprisingly entertaining format, if not necessarily "good" by modern standards. My Landy series 1 was the most scared and entertained I've ever been on road, but I would never have called it anything other than terrifying... I'd much rather hoon about in this than something modern with too much grip, silly profile tyres and electric steering. Does anyone know if it's got a traditional steering rack, on that point? Given 4x4 creds I'd like to think so for ruggednes.
boma said:
Lots of people assuming it's going to be crap on road. But what do you mean by crap?
Gutless, noisy, compromised handing and fuel economy?I do find this car extremely appealing but I have no need of its off road capabilities.
I'm sure if I was lured into a showroom a quick test drive would convince me to get something more suitable like an Ignis.
boma said:
Does anyone know if it's got a traditional steering rack, on that point? Given 4x4 creds I'd like to think so for ruggednes.
I'm assuming it does not have a steering rack.It's probably got a steering box like it's predecessor.
Edited by skyrover on Wednesday 19th September 08:01
PistonBroker said:
Uncle John said:
I don’t know why, but I quite fancy one of these....
Me too. On both counts. Worryingly, Mrs PB likes the look of it as well. Seeing as we already have a front-wheel-drive Disco Sport, it could be a bit odd replacing the MINI as our second car with this. Especially as we live in the 'burbs!
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