RE: Mercedes-AMG A35 unveiled with 306hp
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IanJ9375 said:
Sam993 said:
Oh look at you Mr Louis Vuitton man. This interior is so edgy you could cut your brain thinking about it for too long. 
Edgy interior. Does it get triggered easily too?
Hydrolocked your brain? Edgy interior. Does it get triggered easily too?Thought I recognised the username... https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Just wanted to point out that there's an aero package on those shots. Not standard and it will look less Fast n Furious in standard trim.
Re the dashbaord and electronics, have a look on the Merc www site. There's a lot of videos about it and the technology which is unrivalled in this class.
I currently have an A250 - AMG breathed on but not bonkers AMG. The A45 was a little OTT (and pricey) for me.
I actually test drove a Golf R which is meant to be the competitor for the A35 and coming from a Polo GTI I expected to stay in the VW familiy but the poor customer service of VW put me off and the Golf R just felt a bit dead. The A250 felt smaller and nippier yet it was actually slightly bigger and much slower and at the time 7 grand less. More fun for UK roads I thought and I still think I made the right choice.
The A35 looks like it's hit the sweet spot with a little extra oomph. Will likely be my next purchase in a year or so as it looks like the car I've been waiting for since the Polo R was binned.
Re the dashbaord and electronics, have a look on the Merc www site. There's a lot of videos about it and the technology which is unrivalled in this class.
I currently have an A250 - AMG breathed on but not bonkers AMG. The A45 was a little OTT (and pricey) for me.
I actually test drove a Golf R which is meant to be the competitor for the A35 and coming from a Polo GTI I expected to stay in the VW familiy but the poor customer service of VW put me off and the Golf R just felt a bit dead. The A250 felt smaller and nippier yet it was actually slightly bigger and much slower and at the time 7 grand less. More fun for UK roads I thought and I still think I made the right choice.
The A35 looks like it's hit the sweet spot with a little extra oomph. Will likely be my next purchase in a year or so as it looks like the car I've been waiting for since the Polo R was binned.
Edited by hornmeister on Wednesday 19th September 11:39
Gameface said:
Sam993 said:
Gameface said:
Sam993 said:
Gameface said:
The old dour 140 interior being preferable to this cutting edge one?
Oh look at you Mr Louis Vuitton man. This interior is so edgy you could cut your brain thinking about it for too long. Edgy interior. Does it get triggered easily too?I'm not sure what you're trying to say? Doesn't make much sense.
The phrase "cutting edge" does not relate to fashion. You're obviously confused. It can relate to any field and simply means highly advanced, modern or innovative.
You may not be fan of it, but the fact it is a highly advanced modern car interior, especially for this segment of vehicle, is indisputable.
I need to leave this website do I? I'd wager my garage is more PH than yours.
I'm not even going to try to explain the meaning of that post that triggered you and that other weird ignorant because I have a feeling it will go over your head. Which is fine, not everyone has to understand sarcasm. You're fine the way you are.
Edited by andy.mod on Wednesday 19th September 15:44
Sam993 said:
You started banging on about cutting edge design. Design is part of fashion (and following on from that LV being in fashion business, I hope you're still following). If this car is worth more to you because of cutting edge interior design, than the car that is the last of the breed, a breed that will be killed off soon and in 10 years time PH will be jizzing all over their tits about "remember how great the M135i/M140i was, the last proper driver's car" than I would say you're in a wrong place. I don't know if mumsnet has design subforums but something tells me you'd have more luck discussing this over there.
I'm not even going to try to explain the meaning of that post that triggered you and that other weird ignorant because I have a feeling it will go over your head. Which is fine, not everyone has to understand sarcasm. You're fine the way you are.
Im going to side with common sense here, what the hell does saying an interior (or any other part of the car) has a cutting edge design have to do with them being into 'fashion and LV'? - Is the look of a car (and to some extent the interior, though it doesnt bother me much) not important, or would you happily drive a fiat multipla if it had RWD and a straight 6?I'm not even going to try to explain the meaning of that post that triggered you and that other weird ignorant because I have a feeling it will go over your head. Which is fine, not everyone has to understand sarcasm. You're fine the way you are.
Edited by andy.mod on Wednesday 19th September 15:44
Sam993 said:
Some nonsense about 140i being great.
It's not great though is it? This has better handling, better performance and it can have more than 2 people in it without the poor sods in the rear feeling cramped. Each to their own and all that but this and the RS3 are way better than the BM in both terms of performance and interior design, i.e. iDrive is the biggest pile of crap ever, well next to the iris system in Macs.Edited by Never you mind on Wednesday 19th September 12:16
Never you mind said:
Sam993 said:
Some nonsense about 140i being great.
It's not great though is it? This has better handling, better performance and it can have more than 2 people in it without the poor sods in the rear feeling cramped. Each to their own and all that but this and the RS3 are way better than the BM.Sam993 said:
Never you mind said:
Sam993 said:
Some nonsense about 140i being great.
It's not great though is it? This has better handling, better performance and it can have more than 2 people in it without the poor sods in the rear feeling cramped. Each to their own and all that but this and the RS3 are way better than the BM.Oh, if those cars mentioned aren't competitors why does every mag compare them against each other.
https://www.driving.co.uk/car-reviews/group-tests/...
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/britai...
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Edited by Never you mind on Wednesday 19th September 12:33
Never you mind said:
Sam993 said:
Never you mind said:
Sam993 said:
Some nonsense about 140i being great.
It's not great though is it? This has better handling, better performance and it can have more than 2 people in it without the poor sods in the rear feeling cramped. Each to their own and all that but this and the RS3 are way better than the BM.Oh, if those cars mentioned aren't competitors why does every mag compare them against each other.
https://www.driving.co.uk/car-reviews/group-tests/...
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/britai...
Edited by Never you mind on Wednesday 19th September 12:31
Edited by Never you mind on Wednesday 19th September 12:32
Edited by Never you mind on Wednesday 19th September 12:33
The M140i is generally available quite a bit cheaper than the RS3 and A45, list price is is cheaper but based on the deals available you can get a delivery miles one for about 26k, it does get compared to the others and generally does very well, Harris always goes for the BMW.
Straight line wise it punches a class up, in many was it is flawed and its a bit of a square peg in the hot hatch class being six cylinder, RWD and the best value.
Money no object, would get an M2.
Gameface said:
tomsugden said:
Not a single picture of the inside, how bad is it?
Cutting edge in this segment.
sinbaddio said:
Back on topic.
I like it - and there's nothing like having extra choice in a segment, different configurations etc. Something to suite everyone.
I agree. I think it looks good, especially in that yellow.I like it - and there's nothing like having extra choice in a segment, different configurations etc. Something to suite everyone.
Given this is the cooler model, I look forward to seeing the A45 when it's released.
cerb4.5lee said:
Gameface said:
It just made me sigh inwardly when the Mercedes was dismissed in the very first post on the thread because it's not a RWD 6 cylinder BMW.
Indeed, and lets be honest the 1 series has to be one of the worst examples going in terms of a 6 cylinder RWD BMW. The chassis/suspension is a complete mess, and it gets mentioned how poor it is in every 1 series review I've read. Looks are subjective but for me its one of the most ugly Bmw's ever made. I'm not that impressed with the chav direction that the A Class has gone in, but I don't think its ugly and I do really like the interior.
The 1 series interior is like dropping back into 2004, dated doesn't even cover it.
The chassis/suspension has its flaws, but by no means is it "a complete mess". I'm not sure where you draw that conclusion from, as every review of the car I've read rates the car as a good all round package and generally awards it 4-5 stars.
The damping can get in a bit of a pickle when the car is pushed to its absolute limits on poorly surfaced roads, but for most people, most of the time, this is irrelevant. It's nicely balanced, doesn't struggle to get its power down, and the car fundamentally handles well. I'm basing this on 24,000 miles all over the UK in all weathers in mine in the last 18 months. I don't think I've ever seen or heard it referred to anywhere as being "a complete mess".
The only thing I remotely agree with you on is the interior. I think it's fair to say BMW interiors are pretty average across the board at the moment, and the 1-series dash does look dated and underwhelming next to Mercedes' and Audi's efforts.
Master Bean said:
exelero said:
Info about price? I like the A45 but it's way too expensive.
£35k according to Autocar.Probably quote ok in terms of price. We gave £42K for our A45 with toys two years ago. I expect the new variant of that will be £45K + £5K - 10% so probably £46K ish...
I'll have it in that yellow thanks!
Have to say the A class is finally looking ok. The previous one looked a bit like a 90s car with all its roundedness but the new one is looking shaper, leaner. I quite like it.
And of course it's a million miles away from the original A class which was apparently supposed to be an EV hence the double floor (can't remember where I've read this...either way the old old A class was hot garbage).
Have to say the A class is finally looking ok. The previous one looked a bit like a 90s car with all its roundedness but the new one is looking shaper, leaner. I quite like it.
And of course it's a million miles away from the original A class which was apparently supposed to be an EV hence the double floor (can't remember where I've read this...either way the old old A class was hot garbage).
Limpet said:
cerb4.5lee said:
Gameface said:
It just made me sigh inwardly when the Mercedes was dismissed in the very first post on the thread because it's not a RWD 6 cylinder BMW.
Indeed, and lets be honest the 1 series has to be one of the worst examples going in terms of a 6 cylinder RWD BMW. The chassis/suspension is a complete mess, and it gets mentioned how poor it is in every 1 series review I've read. Looks are subjective but for me its one of the most ugly Bmw's ever made. I'm not that impressed with the chav direction that the A Class has gone in, but I don't think its ugly and I do really like the interior.
The 1 series interior is like dropping back into 2004, dated doesn't even cover it.
The chassis/suspension has its flaws, but by no means is it "a complete mess". I'm not sure where you draw that conclusion from, as every review of the car I've read rates the car as a good all round package and generally awards it 4-5 stars.
The damping can get in a bit of a pickle when the car is pushed to its absolute limits on poorly surfaced roads, but for most people, most of the time, this is irrelevant. It's nicely balanced, doesn't struggle to get its power down, and the car fundamentally handles well. I'm basing this on 24,000 miles all over the UK in all weathers in mine in the last 18 months. I don't think I've ever seen or heard it referred to anywhere as being "a complete mess".
The only thing I remotely agree with you on is the interior. I think it's fair to say BMW interiors are pretty average across the board at the moment, and the 1-series dash does look dated and underwhelming next to Mercedes' and Audi's efforts.
I've always thought of the 1 series as an interesting package but it was very poorly executed for me by Bmw(all the road tests I've read mention this)...especially when compared to how highly regarded the 3 and 5 series are. I'm a big Bmw fan and I love the way they drive, yet I agree with you that their interior is a fair bit off the pace compared to the rivals. Even the 6 series I had wasn't that great inside sadly, and I much prefer Audi/Merc interiors for sure...but I don't think either drive as well as a Bmw though.
Not for me this. Thought the old A-Class was a minger and this one is even worse, certainly from the rear. It's just not a very well-resolved design in my view. Clumsy somehow. Seems to be the way with modern mercs though.
I'm sure it will be potent enough though and, with this output being the junior level, the next A45 is probably going to be a bit of a monster.
I'm sure it will be potent enough though and, with this output being the junior level, the next A45 is probably going to be a bit of a monster.
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