Where can I find a door like this?

Where can I find a door like this?

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guindilias

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5,245 posts

121 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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This is the side door to my house, and I want to replace it.

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As you can see, it is thoroughly knackered. I want exactly the same style of door (particularly the curved top window, and ideally what you probably can't see, is that the glass has bevelled edges.

I also do not need two letterboxes - and I don't think it will be possible to fill in the one on the door without it looking rubbish, or at least seeing the outline of it once it has been filled and painted. The letterbox will be replaced, on the side panel where the existing one is.

I have an RFID lock to go in, so don't need the keyhole (and I can always come in the front door, which has a key).

So, refurbishing it is a lost cause, I think.
I don't want a composite or UPVC door.

I've looked at every door place I can find online (broken ankle, so haven't been to all the showrooms) and the closest I can find is the "Carolina" pattern every place seems to have. Which isn't what I want! has anyone any idea what this door pattern is called,(apart from fucensoredcked)?

I really like the door, but it's dead, it's past it's best, it's a mess. I want to buy a new one (no preference over hardwood/softwood) for a few hundred quid (as few as possible!) and paint it up properly, fit my locks and spyhole, and be done with it.

So, it's not a "Carolina" pattern, has anybody any idea what it is called or where I could get one? Very low crime area and my house, as you can tell, is a dump. So no need for mad security.

Much obliged for any help!

thebraketester

14,247 posts

139 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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Spyhole? A door with glass?

Bluesgirl

769 posts

92 months

Friday 21st September 2018
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That's a nice door. At some point, someone's decided to remove two timber panels and replace them with glass. I'd find a good joiner and get them reinstated and sand it, fill the gaps, undercoat it and give it several coats of good quality paint and some new fittings. The only place you might find another door like that is a reclamation yard, where it'll be £££ and still need work to fix it up.

Ashtray83

571 posts

169 months

Friday 21st September 2018
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That will need making I think mate joinery shop job be looking at 400-600 quid I expect
A decent carpenter could probably get it 90%

guindilias

Original Poster:

5,245 posts

121 months

Friday 21st September 2018
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thebraketester said:
Spyhole? A door with glass?
The spyhole is for a camera linked to an inside monitor, sorry, should have made that clear!

guindilias

Original Poster:

5,245 posts

121 months

Friday 21st September 2018
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Ashtray, Bluesgirl, it looks like you are right - I can't find a single pic of the same style online!
Do you reckon a good joiner could fill the empty letterbox hole and leave it pretty seamless? I don't mind going to a cabinetmaker if that's what it needs, but it needs to be perfect for that sort of money!

WyrleyD

1,913 posts

149 months

Friday 21st September 2018
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Why not use a nice push-plate to cover where the letterbox has been filled in if it bothers you. I'd go with the other posters and try and get a joiner to make the two panels and then re-furb the door yourself it's going to be ££ cheaper than trying to replace it.

Bluesgirl

769 posts

92 months

Friday 21st September 2018
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If you want the letterbox hole filled, a joiner could definitely do that and make it disappear - that's what they do! It wouldn't cost that much to get new panels fitted and the hole filled - far less than getting a new one made.

guindilias

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5,245 posts

121 months

Friday 21st September 2018
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I think the two panels are actually ok, they are weathered rather than rotten. Pic makes them look worse than they actually are!
So, a joiner it shall be then.
Thanks all!

227bhp

10,203 posts

129 months

Friday 21st September 2018
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It's a horrible door, but it does look purpose made. Look at the edge to see if there are tenons showing, also measure the size of the opening to see if it's an oddball size, if so it's more likely to be so.
LPD are a huge distributor so their cat would be worth a look: https://www.lpddoors.co.uk/external-door-range/ but it's unlikely.
It's probable you would have to have another one purpose made so it won't be cheap. There is no way on this earth you will lose a hole like that, it will always be visible. As said, stick a finger plate over the hole, sand and paint the whole thing and bask in its loveliness.

guindilias

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5,245 posts

121 months

Friday 21st September 2018
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I don't think it's a horrible door, I like it - but you are welcome to your opinion!
I'll have a look through that catalogue and see if there is anything like it, or even something different that takes my fancy. Will check for size and mortice/tenons later, trying to spend as little time as possible on my feet at the minute!

guindilias

Original Poster:

5,245 posts

121 months

Saturday 22nd September 2018
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Well, had an answer from a (fairly) local joiner. He reckons it was custom made, and could do one the same (but with no letterbox/lock cutouts as I don't want any) for around £450 using the original glass (which is in perfect nick). Mahogany, and I'll get it professionally painted since I do gloss paint about as well as I do plastering. He wants to come round to measure up, etc. in the next few weeks, which suits me fine.
I'll fit the RFID lock, then take it off again before painting so that everything is as well sealed as possible.
The painter will also do the side panel and top light frames - I double glazed them myself a good few years ago just by putting sealed units into the original frame.
Sound reasonable?

B17NNS

18,506 posts

248 months

Saturday 22nd September 2018
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Is the door double glazed?

guindilias

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121 months

Saturday 22nd September 2018
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Nope - it's always been clear but the sides and toplight (which you can't see in the picture) had some hideous "waterfall" look glass (1960s) which I wanted to replace, so I thought I may as well double glaze them anyway, the cost difference was minimal.

B17NNS

18,506 posts

248 months

Saturday 22nd September 2018
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If it were me dropping £450 on a new bespoke door I'd be double glazing it too.

guindilias

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5,245 posts

121 months

Saturday 22nd September 2018
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Double glazing the two top rectangular panels would be no problem - I'm not a glass guy, but wouldn't the top, curved window be a real ball-ache to get a unit for?
It has a porch, I could double glaze the inside door no problem as all the windows are rectangular.
Wouldn't a custom shape unit for the curved window be seriously expensive? Also I'd lose the bevel at the edges of the glass on that window, I presume?

B17NNS

18,506 posts

248 months

Saturday 22nd September 2018
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No idea on cost but it's certainly not an unusual thing.

http://www.bromyardglass.co.uk/products_processing...

guindilias

Original Poster:

5,245 posts

121 months

Saturday 22nd September 2018
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Hmm, not sure whether I will go for that or not - I can double glaze everything else, 1.5ftsq or so isn't going to make a lot of difference to the heat loss - there's no radiator in the porch, I never have the hallway radiator turned on anyway, so I think the cost set against the advantage might be a bit mad?

227bhp

10,203 posts

129 months

Saturday 22nd September 2018
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Price is ok, consider it would take anywhere from one to two days to make it.
You're right, if it's an unheated porch DGUs are pointless.