"Its Road-dominating Dimensions...."

"Its Road-dominating Dimensions...."

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Mr Whippy

29,075 posts

242 months

Friday 21st September 2018
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Life must suck when you have the money to have a huge black suv for urban tinkering, yet you have no imagination or confidence to get something different, even if just to say ‘f you!’ in a different way.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LGuml-tc75A

RicksAlfas

13,408 posts

245 months

Friday 21st September 2018
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Zod said:
These 6'6" width restrictions are also problematic for sports cars (including mine (owned outright, by the way, but I'd happily finance one)). They present no problem to taxis and vans with high profile tyres on steel wheels. It is wide cars with alloys and low profile tyres that have problems.
The radio advert also takes great delight in mentioning the 21" alloy wheels, so presumably they will have some low profile high performance road tyres which will not only cause problems at width restrictions but will also be appalling in snow. Crazy car. nuts

Zod

35,295 posts

259 months

Friday 21st September 2018
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RicksAlfas said:
Zod said:
These 6'6" width restrictions are also problematic for sports cars (including mine (owned outright, by the way, but I'd happily finance one)). They present no problem to taxis and vans with high profile tyres on steel wheels. It is wide cars with alloys and low profile tyres that have problems.
The radio advert also takes great delight in mentioning the 21" alloy wheels, so presumably they will have some low profile high performance road tyres which will not only cause problems at width restrictions but will also be appalling in snow. Crazy car. nuts
You can always swap the wheels for the winter, like I do.

Ares

11,000 posts

121 months

Friday 21st September 2018
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Mr Whippy said:
Life must suck when you have the money to have a huge black suv for urban tinkering, yet you have no imagination or confidence to get something different, even if just to say ‘f you!’ in a different way.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LGuml-tc75A
Or maybe you just like them??

neil1jnr

1,462 posts

156 months

Friday 21st September 2018
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hyphen said:
neil1jnr said:
The ad on the radio is just some idiots bright idea as a good marketing sell.
No, it's some bright persons idea of a good marketing sell of a product to its target audience... of idiots wink
Touche! laugh

J4CKO

41,643 posts

201 months

Friday 21st September 2018
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Ares said:
MC Bodge said:
Lorries delivering to shops in town centres and suburbia, parking where there is no dedicated loading bay cause chaos. Bin lorries block roads.

There is a need for bin lorries and HGVs.

If everybody turned up at the school to drop their children off or tried to park in the Waitrose Black Land Rover SUV park in HGVs, it could be a little awkward.



This is silly, though, and is not the real issue.

Very big cars marketed as "road-dominating" is a strange, but possibly honest, way to sell them to people. It's not far from, "F**k You, poor person"



Edited by MC Bodge on Friday 21st September 11:19
The irony that that particular Waitrose (my local, Alderley Edge) DOES have a very large loading bay....that you access through the car park wink

The double irony is that at my daughters school, black SUVs are the most common....and given the speed bumps and state of the road near the school, they are probably best fit for purpose!!
But everybody needs a three tonne car for a parent to drop a small child off.

I think there is a bit of "Well I can afford it so I might as well" about SUV purchases but they are massive and dont really fit in small towns like Alderely edge, I just went to Sainsburys in Wilmslow and took the C1 as thats the best tool for that particular job, need a car to carry a weeks shopping so cant walk or cycle so I go in that, one series isnt massive by any stretch but it is compared to the C1.

But a C1 doesnt convey any status and I think that is quite important in our society, I am not immune but threading a Range Rover through those car parks doesnt look like fun,

Size is a great leveller, a big car cant be small and a small car cant be big. I think a Macan is as big as an SUV type thing as I would ever go.

My father in law always had big cars but also always had a shopping car.





hyphen

26,262 posts

91 months

Friday 21st September 2018
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J4CKO said:
But everybody needs a three tonne car for a parent to drop a small child off.

I think there is a bit of "Well I can afford it so I might as well"...
It's about 'safety innit, my kids will be safe in a crash'.

Thankyou4calling

10,611 posts

174 months

Friday 21st September 2018
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Why the focus on the size of the car.

It’s smaller than a Range Rover.


Kenny Powers

2,618 posts

128 months

Friday 21st September 2018
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Have we just plumbed new depths? Did I just read that people who buy an Audi SUV are “idiots”?

Surely that much irony would open up a black hole? laugh

MC Bodge

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21,674 posts

176 months

Friday 21st September 2018
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Thankyou4calling said:
Why the focus on the size of the car.

It’s smaller than a Range Rover.
The marketing people want people to think that it might be suitable for forcing one's way down a road.

Edited by MC Bodge on Friday 21st September 17:39

Andeh13

7,113 posts

207 months

Friday 21st September 2018
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Ares said:
DaveH23 said:
Will be Interesting Frightening to see the options list.
....because choice is a bad thing...??


I actually think for a large SUV, it's pretty good looking and hides its bulk.


I actually quite like the look of that, bet its sublime on long journeys. yum

Edited by Andeh13 on Friday 21st September 18:15

MC Bodge

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21,674 posts

176 months

Friday 21st September 2018
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J4CKO said:
I just went to Sainsburys in Wilmslow and took the C1 as thats the best tool for that particular job, need a car to carry a weeks shopping so cant walk or cycle so I go in that, one series isnt massive by any stretch but it is compared to the C1.

But a C1 doesnt convey any status and I think that is quite important in our society, I am not immune but threading a Range Rover through those car parks doesnt look like fun,
I'm of a similar view. We use our Fiesta unless we need the space of the (fairly big) Mondeo estate or travel long distances, although we do sometimes still use the Fiesta.

The Fiesta is much easier to find a parking space for, as well as not having a diesel engine.

Neither of these cars project any sort of "image". Maybe people we drive past think that we are poor? As I don't know them I don't care. People who do know us know who we are and what sort of jobs we have, house we live in etc., although money and wealth isn't often a topic of conversation.

Having an SUV with "road-dominating dimensions" probably wouldn't impress them. They'd probably just take the mick.

williamp

19,267 posts

274 months

Friday 21st September 2018
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MC Bodge said:
The marketing people want people to think that it might be suitable for forcing ones way down a road.
Thats my take on it.

And it is worth a discussion of whether cars are getting too wide (and too heavy) for Uk roads. Remeber everyone said the XJ220 is too wide to be in any way practical for Uk roads?? Apparently the Q8 is just 5mm narrorer. And they'll be thousands of 'em

MC Bodge

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21,674 posts

176 months

Friday 21st September 2018
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Andeh13 said:
I actually quite like the look of that, bet its sublime on long journeys. :yum
In a way that other cars are not?

Driving along in a modern, even non-prestige(!) family car isn't exactly a tiring, hardship of an experience. Even right across Europe.


vikingaero

10,392 posts

170 months

Friday 21st September 2018
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Can I call BS on the 1995cm dimensions. With mirrors it's 2190cm. Add a a foot either side of the mirrors for owners to steer the barge along a narrow High Street and it's 2250cm.

Ares

11,000 posts

121 months

Friday 21st September 2018
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MC Bodge said:
Andeh13 said:
I actually quite like the look of that, bet its sublime on long journeys. :yum
In a way that other cars are not?

Driving along in a modern, even non-prestige(!) family car isn't exactly a tiring, hardship of an experience. Even right across Europe.
True. But this (and the Range Rover et al) will just be better.

MuscleSaloon

1,552 posts

176 months

Friday 21st September 2018
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That is one ugly mofo.

Could the front end of a car look any worse ?




Andeh13

7,113 posts

207 months

Friday 21st September 2018
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Ares said:
MC Bodge said:
Andeh13 said:
I actually quite like the look of that, bet its sublime on long journeys. :yum
In a way that other cars are not?

Driving along in a modern, even non-prestige(!) family car isn't exactly a tiring, hardship of an experience. Even right across Europe.
True. But this (and the Range Rover et al) will just be better.
There's comfy...... then there's ventilated, massaging seats, with 21 way adjustment, with 2 dozen speakers, laminated glass, and enough driving aids to allow the car to drive itself.... All mated to a rocket engine. You also get the smug satisfaction that everyone hates you... From within their peasent wagons.
Like I said, sublime comfort. wink

MC Bodge

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21,674 posts

176 months

Friday 21st September 2018
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Ares said:
True. But this (and the Range Rover et al) will just be better.
Good enough is, well, good enough. Even if it doesn't dominate the road or the stairs.

How many owners will drive 1000 miles across Europe anyway? Driving to school isn't quite as arduous.

Edited by MC Bodge on Friday 21st September 19:02

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

168 months

Friday 21st September 2018
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Ares said:
MC Bodge said:
Andeh13 said:
I actually quite like the look of that, bet its sublime on long journeys. :yum
In a way that other cars are not?

Driving along in a modern, even non-prestige(!) family car isn't exactly a tiring, hardship of an experience. Even right across Europe.
True. But this (and the Range Rover et al) will just be better.
When it's working

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