Daytime only MOT

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MrJingles705

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409 posts

144 months

Tuesday 25th September 2018
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Does anyone know (as in, have personal experience of) trying to get a car through the MOT for daytime only use (e.g. no lights) since the last set of MOT changes? is it still possible?

Looking to do this for a racing caterham (270r) - would obviously tax and insure accordingly, and use load legal rubber, just need to know if it is possible.

MOT manual is really confusing to follow on this, and the local MOT tester had never heard of the process (even before 2018) so clearly not a font of useful information there.....

ManicMunky

531 posts

121 months

Tuesday 25th September 2018
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You don't just need lights for night time, surely?

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 25th September 2018
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I didn't even know this was a thing so had a quick google and a read of the manual. The manual seems pretty unequivocal that if position lights aren't fitted you get an advisory, and then as a result of having no position lights, you don't need to fit headlamps, stop lights or fogs (and no advisory is given).
So you get a standard MOT, with an advisory, not a specific 'daytime MOT'.

I guess you'd be stuffed if you get caught in the fog though.

paintman

7,692 posts

191 months

Tuesday 25th September 2018
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Spumfry said:
I didn't even know this was a thing so had a quick google and a read of the manual. The manual seems pretty unequivocal that if position lights aren't fitted you get an advisory, and then as a result of having no position lights, you don't need to fit headlamps, stop lights or fogs (and no advisory is given).
So you get a standard MOT, with an advisory, not a specific 'daytime MOT'.
No such thing as a 'daylight MoT' although often referred to as that & was the same under the old system. Not something you're likely to come across every day so I'm not surprised it's a new one for your tester.
Quite clear in the manual just read through the relevant sections.
https://www.mot-testing.service.gov.uk/documents/m...





Edited by paintman on Tuesday 25th September 13:37

MrJingles705

Original Poster:

409 posts

144 months

Tuesday 25th September 2018
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Yep - I only need this to go short distances (<10 miles), occasionally, on public roads. Going any distance at all without lights is asking for trouble, regardless of what the law says.

Oceanrower

923 posts

113 months

Tuesday 25th September 2018
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It's VERY common on motorbikes. One thing to bear in mind that "no lights" means exactly that. No lights whatsoever. Including the brake light.

Also, it's an advisory. If you put lights on afterwards you CAN drive at night. No need for a retest. No different to an advisory on any other item. Put lights on and you're good to go.

guitarcarfanatic

1,605 posts

136 months

Tuesday 25th September 2018
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Yes, definitely all OK. More common on motorbikes.

imagineifyeswill

1,226 posts

167 months

Tuesday 25th September 2018
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This was a regulation brought out originally for If I remember correctly British Rail, in the years that British Rail carried and delivered a lot of parcels the vehicles they used for local deliveries had no lights fitted.

Nowadays its usually only One Venue Stage rally cars that get daytime tests as they usually have the light apertures blanked off but still require an MOT for scruteneering regulations, your track car would get the same test but its quite true many testers have never heard off this.

BertBert

19,071 posts

212 months

Tuesday 25th September 2018
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Oceanrower said:
It's VERY common on motorbikes. One thing to bear in mind that "no lights" means exactly that. No lights whatsoever. Including the brake light.
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That's not what the manual says

wolf1

3,081 posts

251 months

Tuesday 25th September 2018
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The requirement to satisfy the MOT test is no lights at all (removed/covered up it doesn't matter either way) number plate and electrically powered horn fitted, no reflectors required either. You'll just have an advisory such as "no lights fitted at time of test"

Construction and use regs are a whole different story.

C Lee Farquar

4,069 posts

217 months

Tuesday 25th September 2018
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i did it about four years ago, but no experience since the changes.