RE: Ford Fiesta RS Turbo: Spotted

RE: Ford Fiesta RS Turbo: Spotted

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aaron_2000

5,407 posts

84 months

Monday 1st October 2018
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Agent XXX said:
Bizarrely, mine was the one that Clarkson and the other two idiots blew up in their piece on 80s/90s hot hatches.
A much cooler end to it than being broken for parts I guess. Had the clocks rolled over on it or was it just clocked when they got their hands on it? Always wondered that.

enginebuilder

55 posts

100 months

Monday 1st October 2018
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I bought one that was 2 years old at the time, biggest mistake ever, frosty mornings would induce a very severe boost cut, that after a few of them would shear an engine mounting, which were the same as a 950cc Fiesta.

If driven more the 50 mins on a steady throttle opening, ie motorway driven, would require a ignition on / off at the top of the slip road, so that it would forget what it had just been doing, otherwise that's all it wanted to do.

If the heated screen was used at all, within a week it needed a new alternator, it needed 5 in less than a year, luckily the were changed foc, as they were always in there 12 months warranty.

Use to break rear anti roll bar brackets for fun, which were no more than hydraulic pipe p clips.

I used public transport more in the ownership of it than I have in the rest of my car ownership years.

Only plus side when I sold it, I had 2 buyers out bidding each other on my driveway, so not all bad.

Limpet

6,322 posts

162 months

Monday 1st October 2018
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I was in the trade (at a Ford dealership) in 1993/4, and used to really enjoy driving thes when they came in as P/X, although they were incredibly coarse and crude feeling, even by the standards of the time. Went well though, and the aftermarket tuning industry could turn them into proper rockets.

I remember the unassisted steering and torque steer being quite a challenge.

I suspect it would be pretty horrible to drive by modern standards, and pretty underwhelming performance- wise.

s m

23,243 posts

204 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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Limpet said:
I suspect it would be pretty horrible to drive by modern standards, and pretty underwhelming performance- wise.
Anything from that era would be pretty underwhelming performance-wise by that marker.

This was a fast to a ton as Clio Williams, CRX V-Tec, Astra GTE 16v, Renault 5GTT,

Top layer of 1990 hot hatch performance and a fair bit quicker than a 205 1.9 to 3 figure speeds



Glasgowrob

3,246 posts

122 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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s m said:
Anything from that era would be pretty underwhelming performance-wise by that marker.

This was a fast to a ton as Clio Williams, CRX V-Tec, Astra GTE 16v, Renault 5GTT,

Top layer of 1990 hot hatch performance and a fair bit quicker than a 205 1.9 to 3 figure speeds
nothing that chipping them couldnt fix.

never had a fiesta but had an escort turbo with the wick turned up and a 285T2 cam along with a few other bits and pieces. ended up somewhere north of 200 bhp and was for the time fantastic fun.

although not quite as fun as a 2l 16v Nova wink friend of mine has a C20LET in his Nova, now that thing was stupidly quick

cerb4.5lee

30,738 posts

181 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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Glasgowrob said:
nothing that chipping them couldnt fix.

never had a fiesta but had an escort turbo with the wick turned up and a 285T2 cam along with a few other bits and pieces. ended up somewhere north of 200 bhp and was for the time fantastic fun.
A friend of mine used to have a Escort RS Turbo running around 240bhp, I still think to this day that its the quickest car I've ever been in...it was mental!

I remember racing a RX7 off the lights in it...he even missed a gearchange...yet we still sailed past him! driving I've certainly never been in or owned anything that felt as quick as that did.

spreadsheet monkey

4,545 posts

228 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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howardhughes said:
I had a Fiat MK2 Uno Turbo, as my first hot hatch but always wanted a Fiesta RS Turbo.
As with anything like that it comes down to money and what I could afford at the time
There are plenty of people out there in their late forties who would have aspired to one of these when they were new, but couldn't afford to buy or insure one. Some of these people now have a few £££ burning a hole in their pocket.

I follow KGF Classics on Instagram. They sell quite a few fast Fords, always low mileage and top prices. Whenever they post a handover photo, it's always a guy in his 40s or 50s.

Fast Ford prices seem mental to me, but if the people who buy them are enjoying the cars and having fun reliving the glory days of their youth, then good luck to them!

Agent XXX

1,248 posts

107 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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aaron_2000 said:
A much cooler end to it than being broken for parts I guess. Had the clocks rolled over on it or was it just clocked when they got their hands on it? Always wondered that.
It was on about 60k when I sold it and that was many years ago so probably rolled over. It was 5 years old when I bought it and had covered 15,000 miles smile


LARK F1 GTR

3,296 posts

147 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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The petrol cap rust on these was a joke! (well it was for all Mk3's) I don't really ever remember seeing one without tons of rust! Despite that I was quite fond of them.



BigMon

4,209 posts

130 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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I had a 93 K reg XR2i with the 1800 Zetec engine in and loved it.

It was my first fast car after a series of sheds so felt great.

The only issues I had really were it used to tramline quite badly, no ABS so it used to lock the brakes, and the starter motor used to stick occasionally.

I sold it after a year and really regretted it.

dibblecorse

6,885 posts

193 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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I love that. never had one but had friends that did, at the time it was a real pepperami ..... was a bit more grown up than the R5T and the Fiat Uno Turbo ... and only on a Saab have 3 spokes looked better ........

0ddball

865 posts

140 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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I had a van with the turbo running gear in it. With equal length driveshafts from the diesel, the torque steer was reduced massively, but you still couldn't drive it in anger till 3rd gear. Running a redneck mix of components it was plenty fast enough in a raw sort of way but not sure I would want another one now.

and31

3,062 posts

128 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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LARK F1 GTR said:
The petrol cap rust on these was a joke! (well it was for all Mk3's) I don't really ever remember seeing one without tons of rust! Despite that I was quite fond of them.
Funnily enough I’ve owned four mk3 fiestas( RS1800 and three vans-the diesel vans were absolutely bulletproof and got thrashed daily !!)and not one of them had any rust by the filler cap.
They were all L and m reg though -ford must have addressed the issue on the later models

LARK F1 GTR

3,296 posts

147 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2018
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Yeah they must have addressed the problem, water used to get into the inside of the panels around the cap causing it to rust inside outwards. I've seen some real messes over the years, sometimes on otherwise pretty mint examples.

I know that they put a flap on later models (I guess yours have that ?) where as they only had the filler cap on early ones.

EGTE

996 posts

183 months

Thursday 4th October 2018
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Truly terrible car.

1965spenner

2 posts

104 months

Thursday 4th October 2018
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I had a black j plate 1992 one, it was only 4 years old at the time and imaculate. I remember the rock hard ride and torque steer well, along with it needing front ball joints like they were service items. Strangely it needed several door locks, not through people screwing them but the barrel's in the chubb locks kept falling apart.
Despite that it was a great car to drive, big downside was you couldnt go anywhere without someone tailgating you, trying to get you to race
Ahhh good memories

greenarrow

3,600 posts

118 months

Thursday 4th October 2018
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s m said:
Limpet said:
I suspect it would be pretty horrible to drive by modern standards, and pretty underwhelming performance- wise.
Anything from that era would be pretty underwhelming performance-wise by that marker.

This was a fast to a ton as Clio Williams, CRX V-Tec, Astra GTE 16v, Renault 5GTT,

Top layer of 1990 hot hatch performance and a fair bit quicker than a 205 1.9 to 3 figure speeds
Yup, that's true. After reading this thread I got my old Brooklands Books "High Performance Fiestas" edition out... Performance car tested the RS Turbo against the 205 GTi 1.9. 0-100, Fiesta 19.7 secs, 205 GTI, 22.8 secs. Which isn't bad when you consider that 25 years later, a Fiesta Mk7 ST was only 2 secs faster to the ton.

The 0-60 figure was hampered by the fact that 2nd gear only ran to 56 MPH. The Astra GTE and, 205 GTI 1.9 did 60 in 2nd gear.......

s m

23,243 posts

204 months

Thursday 4th October 2018
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greenarrow said:
s m said:
Limpet said:
I suspect it would be pretty horrible to drive by modern standards, and pretty underwhelming performance- wise.
Anything from that era would be pretty underwhelming performance-wise by that marker.

This was a fast to a ton as Clio Williams, CRX V-Tec, Astra GTE 16v, Renault 5GTT,

Top layer of 1990 hot hatch performance and a fair bit quicker than a 205 1.9 to 3 figure speeds
Yup, that's true. After reading this thread I got my old Brooklands Books "High Performance Fiestas" edition out... Performance car tested the RS Turbo against the 205 GTi 1.9. 0-100, Fiesta 19.7 secs, 205 GTI, 22.8 secs. Which isn't bad when you consider that 25 years later, a Fiesta Mk7 ST was only 2 secs faster to the ton.

The 0-60 figure was hampered by the fact that 2nd gear only ran to 56 MPH. The Astra GTE and, 205 GTI 1.9 did 60 in 2nd gear.......
I remember having a 1.9 GTi back in the early 90s - the RS turbos ( Mk3 Escort and Fiesta ) always had a bit more kick from their 130bhp compared to the Peugeot horses. Loved having a go in my friends S1 RST - first fwd car I tried with a LSD and really pulled the nose of the car into the corner. Pugs were more fluid to drive but the differences on the road were small. Think it said as much in that Performance Car test
Even standard ones were about as fast as anything till the 16V Astra and Maestro Turbo ( pretty rare ) arrived on the scene

s m

23,243 posts

204 months

Sunday 7th October 2018
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deltashad said:
15k.... not in a hurry to sell then
Just like the 50/60/70K Deltas it’ll need the right buyer as you will know as an Integrale fan and may well sit around for a fair while like many of those cars do

They’ve obviously seen that one sell for 16k a while back and thought they’ll try it too!