RE: Porsche 911 Speedster confirmed for production
Discussion
Rawwr said:
Guvernator said:
Emperors new clothes is right.
That doesn't really work. For it to be analogous with that tale, the car would have to claim it had a body kit on but really there's nothing there. Guvernator said:
With this and that horrible 935 pastiche earlier in the week, it really is proof that Porsche could roll any vaguely 911 shaped turd in glitter, sell them in limited numbers and people would still lap it up and this coming from someone who actually likes most 911's.
Imagine if these things were subjective. Just imagine.Perhaps it's just me but I notice that with other cars, baring a few outliers, there is often common consensus on looks whereas with Porsche, a lot of that objectivity seems to often go right out the window.
Gonzo0 said:
I was at my OPC last weekend and chatting with our sales guy he confirmed that you have had to have purchased 40+ cars from porsche previously to be allocated a speedster.
OPCs are getting allocated 1 maybe 2 speedsters at best. Thats it.
That's ridiculous. OPCs are getting allocated 1 maybe 2 speedsters at best. Thats it.
It's not much more than a decade since Porsche cut the production runs short for the 996 GT3 RS and Carrera GT because they couldn't shift them all.
Gonzo0 said:
I was at my OPC last weekend and chatting with our sales guy he confirmed that you have had to have purchased 40+ cars from porsche previously to be allocated a speedster.
OPCs are getting allocated 1 maybe 2 speedsters at best. Thats it.
40+ cars! FFS I haven't owned 40 + cars in my 50 years of life. I think it looks great, its something that I could consider and maybe afford but Porsche seemingly has no desire to attract non Porsche owners to their product. OPCs are getting allocated 1 maybe 2 speedsters at best. Thats it.
Rawwr said:
Guvernator said:
Perhaps it's just me but I notice that with other cars, baring a few outliers, there is often common consensus on looks whereas with Porsche, a lot of that objectivity seems to often go right out the window.
Objectivity about looks?Porsche seems to be one of the manufacturers that are masters at this Jedi mind trick. Most Porsche sports cars aren't generally what you'd call classically beautiful but that doesn't stop many people including me going weak at the knees at certain examples.
However In the case of this Speedster and the 935 earlier in the week, those flaws are so prominent even Porsche's usual Jedi mind tricks can't hide them, at least for me.
thegreenhell said:
Gonzo0 said:
I was at my OPC last weekend and chatting with our sales guy he confirmed that you have had to have purchased 40+ cars from porsche previously to be allocated a speedster.
OPCs are getting allocated 1 maybe 2 speedsters at best. Thats it.
That's ridiculous. OPCs are getting allocated 1 maybe 2 speedsters at best. Thats it.
It's not much more than a decade since Porsche cut the production runs short for the 996 GT3 RS and Carrera GT because they couldn't shift them all.
blueg33 said:
40+ cars! FFS I haven't owned 40 + cars in my 50 years of life. I think it looks great, its something that I could consider and maybe afford but Porsche seemingly has no desire to attract non Porsche owners to their product.
Porsche have some VERY loyal customers who regularly swap their cars every few months, to keep those customers loyal Porsche reward them by allocating them to limited edition models.I believe though that they are not allowed to flip these cars and if caught doing so are black listed and are not allowed access to other limited edition Porsches.
How the other half live ey.....
Guvernator said:
Obviously you can't be fully objective about looks, that's probably the wrong word but it is possible to look at an object with at least some measure of detachment and spot obvious flaws.
However In the case of this Speedster and the 935 earlier in the week, those flaws are so prominent even Porsche's usual Jedi mind tricks can't hide them, at least for me.
It's entirely subjective and you're being entirely subjective. That's all it is.However In the case of this Speedster and the 935 earlier in the week, those flaws are so prominent even Porsche's usual Jedi mind tricks can't hide them, at least for me.
blueg33 said:
40+ cars! FFS I haven't owned 40 + cars in my 50 years of life. I think it looks great, its something that I could consider and maybe afford but Porsche seemingly has no desire to attract non Porsche owners to their product.
Would be inclined to agree with you. Porsche seem to have a large-ish group of particularly 'preferred customers' who they can rely on to basically buy any and every one of their limited editions, even if for no other reason than fear of missing out on the next one(s). So if you're in the club, on the list etc, great - but if not, then it's basically a closed shop unless you're prepared to put in the time and effort of building up a brand / OPC relationship over a lengthy period. (Or, if you're a certain social media personality, you can jump the queue a bit by relentlessly plugging certain manufacturers for as long as it takes to secure some special editions, which you'll probably end up flipping on at some point...)
av185 said:
thegreenhell said:
Gonzo0 said:
I was at my OPC last weekend and chatting with our sales guy he confirmed that you have had to have purchased 40+ cars from porsche previously to be allocated a speedster.
OPCs are getting allocated 1 maybe 2 speedsters at best. Thats it.
That's ridiculous. OPCs are getting allocated 1 maybe 2 speedsters at best. Thats it.
It's not much more than a decade since Porsche cut the production runs short for the 996 GT3 RS and Carrera GT because they couldn't shift them all.
What doesn't help in todays world that wasn't as prevalent 10-15+ years ago is.....finance!
It's very easy now for a customer to chuck 10k into a finance deal and then hop back out of it relatively pain free, especially for Porsche where depreciation is small.
That's how all these car YouTubers do it where they seem to have a new car every other week, chances are not many of them have £150k sat in the bank to throw into a new car every other month.
It's very easy now for a customer to chuck 10k into a finance deal and then hop back out of it relatively pain free, especially for Porsche where depreciation is small.
That's how all these car YouTubers do it where they seem to have a new car every other week, chances are not many of them have £150k sat in the bank to throw into a new car every other month.
thegreenhell said:
Gonzo0 said:
I was at my OPC last weekend and chatting with our sales guy he confirmed that you have had to have purchased 40+ cars from porsche previously to be allocated a speedster.
OPCs are getting allocated 1 maybe 2 speedsters at best. Thats it.
That's ridiculous. OPCs are getting allocated 1 maybe 2 speedsters at best. Thats it.
It's not much more than a decade since Porsche cut the production runs short for the 996 GT3 RS and Carrera GT because they couldn't shift them all.
I'd say maybe 2'000 - 3'000? And that number over 2 or 3 years!
With making it a limited production run, everybody gets all giggly about it and runs to the nearest OPC to buy one as an investment.
Don't know if true, simply my perception..
Filibuster said:
With making it a limited production run, everybody gets all giggly about it and runs to the nearest OPC to buy one as an investment.
Don't know if true, simply my perception..
I suspect you're right. But if that's what people want to do with their money - good luck to 'em!The froth and speculation around these various "limited editions" seems all out of proportion to me. There are some stunning cars with sensible availability at relatively sensible prices.Don't know if true, simply my perception..
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