RE: Porsche 911 Speedster confirmed for production
Discussion
I don't know who these 'so called investors' think they're saving these cars for.
If you look at the historical data, the last 964 speedster in around 1990 listed somewhere in the order of 80k, today they are asking about 175-180k representing a gain of about 3580 a year or 5 percent. knock off servicing and insurance holding costs and you haven't done much better than track RPI inflation and broken even.
Compare that with investing the 80k in Apple stock in 1990, which according to macrotrends gained over 1,700 percent in the same period and your 80k would now be worth what 1,380,000 or enough to buy a 918 spyder including premium, without any heed to take the loss on 40 cars to ve 'qualified'.
Porsche are utterly taking the piss, the cost of getting their speculator editions outweighs any gain, and putting the m,oney to work in real investments means you can buy the premium added cars without any restriction on what you can do with it, and ironically if it does go up in value you will make the gain without havimg paid OPC margin on 40 cars to get it.
There is a reason why cars are fetching premiums on resale - people who are smart are making money to pay for them, not wasting it playing silly games of DP customer roulette at the OPC.
The baby boomer's cashing out their pensions on the idea that they can make money and drive fancy cars will be the next PPI bandwagon screamers when the reality k9cks in that they're the people pushing up the prices buying off each other, and when they come to sell out of the cheap rate deferred PCP window and out of warranty there'll be little to no market willing to pay inflated money for cars too old to be instagram fashionistas and too new to be properly rare collectibles, and too expensive for genuine enthusiasts to pay silly asking prices for.
Anyone with any sense should keep their hands in their pockets and put their money to work until the depreciation bloodbath starts as all these limited editions flood into the market.
800 grand - thats how much it costs in premium depreciation to take a LaFerrari from delivery to 400km - in a market where pricing is based on not using the things who is going to pay the hit to actually drive one makingbthem overpriced garage ornaments.
40+ porsches qualification, even Enzo would choke with laughter at that.
If you look at the historical data, the last 964 speedster in around 1990 listed somewhere in the order of 80k, today they are asking about 175-180k representing a gain of about 3580 a year or 5 percent. knock off servicing and insurance holding costs and you haven't done much better than track RPI inflation and broken even.
Compare that with investing the 80k in Apple stock in 1990, which according to macrotrends gained over 1,700 percent in the same period and your 80k would now be worth what 1,380,000 or enough to buy a 918 spyder including premium, without any heed to take the loss on 40 cars to ve 'qualified'.
Porsche are utterly taking the piss, the cost of getting their speculator editions outweighs any gain, and putting the m,oney to work in real investments means you can buy the premium added cars without any restriction on what you can do with it, and ironically if it does go up in value you will make the gain without havimg paid OPC margin on 40 cars to get it.
There is a reason why cars are fetching premiums on resale - people who are smart are making money to pay for them, not wasting it playing silly games of DP customer roulette at the OPC.
The baby boomer's cashing out their pensions on the idea that they can make money and drive fancy cars will be the next PPI bandwagon screamers when the reality k9cks in that they're the people pushing up the prices buying off each other, and when they come to sell out of the cheap rate deferred PCP window and out of warranty there'll be little to no market willing to pay inflated money for cars too old to be instagram fashionistas and too new to be properly rare collectibles, and too expensive for genuine enthusiasts to pay silly asking prices for.
Anyone with any sense should keep their hands in their pockets and put their money to work until the depreciation bloodbath starts as all these limited editions flood into the market.
800 grand - thats how much it costs in premium depreciation to take a LaFerrari from delivery to 400km - in a market where pricing is based on not using the things who is going to pay the hit to actually drive one makingbthem overpriced garage ornaments.
40+ porsches qualification, even Enzo would choke with laughter at that.
blueg33 said:
PGNSagaris said:
RJG46 said:
I thought the new Alpine was supposed to be ugly?
it is.This, however, is a masterpiece.
t. This Speedster, IMHO, gives me urges 
. Just a shame I cannot actually buy one. I phoned a dealer this morning. Less than zero chance.
thegreenhell said:
Gonzo0 said:
I was at my OPC last weekend and chatting with our sales guy he confirmed that you have had to have purchased 40+ cars from porsche previously to be allocated a speedster.
OPCs are getting allocated 1 maybe 2 speedsters at best. Thats it.
That's ridiculous. OPCs are getting allocated 1 maybe 2 speedsters at best. Thats it.
It's not much more than a decade since Porsche cut the production runs short for the 996 GT3 RS and Carrera GT because they couldn't shift them all.
PhantomPH said:
Probably the (almost) perfect 911. I'd even put up with a roof 'mechanism' that was the same as the 981 Spyder. Just hoping that is what gets fitted as opposed to 'no roof at all'.
(not that I will get an allocation of course, so I have no idea why I am 'hoping' for anything! Ha ha)
Spyder style roof would do.(not that I will get an allocation of course, so I have no idea why I am 'hoping' for anything! Ha ha)
If it’s like the concept, perfect.
For real world (not pretending to be race car or that ultimate lap times matter with a road car), absolutely amazing.
Would be fun on a track, great on the road, looks great and roof down when weathers nice.
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