RE: Dodge Challenger SRT Hellcat Redeye: Driven
Discussion
Matt Harper said:
Because these Challengers share many systems and parts from the more lowly versions of the model, in order to keep cost and packaging issues under control - enabling them to deliver spectacular performance at bargain basement pricing. That said, this is still an $85K car, once the handshake's done.
Range is not the issue it might appear, when driven 'normally'. I have a much more modest 392ci Scat Pack, that with my mods produces 465whp. With a full 18.5(US) gallons on board, I can reach just shy of 300 miles before it is sucking fumes.
I get your point about parts sharing, but 70 litres is not very generous even for the basic model, which is still a fullsize heavy coupe with a V6 engine. I just checked the specs for Mustang (60 litres) and Camaro (72 litres) and I am wondering what's the thinking behind it. Range is not the issue it might appear, when driven 'normally'. I have a much more modest 392ci Scat Pack, that with my mods produces 465whp. With a full 18.5(US) gallons on board, I can reach just shy of 300 miles before it is sucking fumes.
Maybe there is some sort of emission legislation going on, same as in EU (driving resistances for emission testing are set according to overall weight with nearly full tank).
Surely there must space to accommodate a proper tank in such bigass cars, without any noticeable effects for weight distribution.
I used to have E38 728i and that had close to 90 litres, giving me pretty decent range, 450 miles without trying too hard, 500+ possible on a long cruise.
That was very relaxing to know to be honest.
I would love one of these in my garage, the only reason I'm currently looking at buying a Camaro is that I simply can't afford a '15 up V8 Challenger (the exterior upgrade does look a little better, but the interior is streets ahead of the earlier one IMO). There's a V6 for sale locally which is lovely (a deep cherry/burgundy red) but although the price is right, the engine's not 
There is nothing that BMW or Audi produce that tempts me in the same way Merc comes closer but again no cigar.
There is nothing that BMW or Audi produce that tempts me in the same way Merc comes closer but again no cigar.
big_rob_sydney said:
exgtt said:
big_rob_sydney said:
Wondering why it's so heavy.
Really? And something equally mad (if not more so, and made here in the UK), an Ultima Evo is over 1000 bhp, and weighs in at less than half the weight. Seriously.
Zajda said:
Matt Harper said:
Because these Challengers share many systems and parts from the more lowly versions of the model, in order to keep cost and packaging issues under control - enabling them to deliver spectacular performance at bargain basement pricing. That said, this is still an $85K car, once the handshake's done.
Range is not the issue it might appear, when driven 'normally'. I have a much more modest 392ci Scat Pack, that with my mods produces 465whp. With a full 18.5(US) gallons on board, I can reach just shy of 300 miles before it is sucking fumes.
I get your point about parts sharing, but 70 litres is not very generous even for the basic model, which is still a fullsize heavy coupe with a V6 engine. I just checked the specs for Mustang (60 litres) and Camaro (72 litres) and I am wondering what's the thinking behind it. Range is not the issue it might appear, when driven 'normally'. I have a much more modest 392ci Scat Pack, that with my mods produces 465whp. With a full 18.5(US) gallons on board, I can reach just shy of 300 miles before it is sucking fumes.
Maybe there is some sort of emission legislation going on, same as in EU (driving resistances for emission testing are set according to overall weight with nearly full tank).
Surely there must space to accommodate a proper tank in such bigass cars, without any noticeable effects for weight distribution.
I used to have E38 728i and that had close to 90 litres, giving me pretty decent range, 450 miles without trying too hard, 500+ possible on a long cruise.
That was very relaxing to know to be honest.
I'm pretty sure the M6 has the same sized tank, giving about 100 miles if you're having fun.
irocfan said:
I would love one of these in my garage, the only reason I'm currently looking at buying a Camaro is that I simply can't afford a '15 up V8 Challenger (the exterior upgrade does look a little better, but the interior is streets ahead of the earlier one IMO). There's a V6 for sale locally which is lovely (a deep cherry/burgundy red) but although the price is right, the engine's not
There is nothing that BMW or Audi produce that tempts me in the same way Merc comes closer but again no cigar.
I hope you have tried both? I had a Camaro convertible with a 6.2 v8 back in 2015 and the 5.7 Hemi challenger this year.I thought the Challenger was nicer to drive and in a different league interior wise. I would hold out for the Challenger. There is nothing that BMW or Audi produce that tempts me in the same way Merc comes closer but again no cigar.
gf15 said:
I hope you have tried both? I had a Camaro convertible with a 6.2 v8 back in 2015 and the 5.7 Hemi challenger this year.I thought the Challenger was nicer to drive and in a different league interior wise. I would hold out for the Challenger.
Indeed I have tried both interiors, no question the challi is my favourite (not by a huge amount tbh) but the price differential is too big for the foreseeable future (ie the next 5+ years) so I'm happy with the ss I've found Matt Harper said:
phil3uh said:
Looks great. Made in the USA for the USA, wouldn't work in some of our narrow streets!
Not you again!I have had very few issues with the size of the Navara anywhere I’ve taken it in the last year.
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