RE: Porsche 992 GT3 - first look!

RE: Porsche 992 GT3 - first look!

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Dr G

15,197 posts

243 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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Davey S2 said:
sleepera6 said:
What a mess.
You realise that this is just a prototype / development mule right?
Standard for General Gassing - rash conclusions made on a few snaps of a development mule.

anniesdad

14,589 posts

239 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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Esceptico said:
anniesdad said:
cry

What's RRP on a bog standard Boxster these days?
Looking on PH classifieds seems to be around £50k for a new, base model. Over £70k for a GTS
Yeah just looked on Porsche website 718 Boxster is c.£47K list and Cayman slightly cheaper (used to be dearer) at c.£46K list minus all options. Well if they can make a real stripped out lightweight without all the stuff you don't need say up to £40K, that would be great.


gigglebug

2,611 posts

123 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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Aluxo said:
gigglebug said:
gofasterrosssco said:
There appears to be two large vents either side of the 3rd brake light, which would indicate a turbocharged engine.. Of course Porsche could just be f*cking with us hehe
Good spot. Anything would look better than the intakes in the rear wings, never did like them!
Those air intakes are already there on the current GT3. So not a telltale sign either way.
911 Turbos have generally had intakes in the wing behind the doors.
Are they usually that prominent though? No it doesn't automatically suggest that they are intakes for turbo's but they do seem to have increased in size.

The video certainly gives the impression that it will be n/a.

Edited by gigglebug on Friday 12th October 16:55

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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Dr G said:
Davey S2 said:
sleepera6 said:
What a mess.
You realise that this is just a prototype / development mule right?
Standard for General Gassing - rash conclusions made on a few snaps of a development mule.
Thanks for your input. Which I couldn’t give a fk about.

I’ve seen renders. It’s a pig. Chiron lights? Huge arse? Bleugh.

And that awful Senna style wing.


ReverendCounter

6,087 posts

177 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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sleepera6 said:
And that awful Senna style wing.
I'm pretty sure the wing uprights are shaped like that to enclose and hide the true shape of the production items.

AWG

855 posts

157 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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That wing! curse
Can't wait to see the final product.

Julian Thompson

2,549 posts

239 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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Well I have a 991.1 gt3 and I love it. I don’t actually use the car at the moment because I’m too busy but I just enjoy owning it, and knowing it’s there. Some day I will be a little less busy and I’ll get some driving fun out of it too.

Not everyone who owns these cars wants to flip them for a profit. I’m sure the new one will be better than the old one but the old one, if you already have one, is so good that there probably isn’t any point creating ownership “churn” and changing it.

In respect of buying one, I’m not sure where the problem comes from with the “overs”. If you want to be on the list to buy a new one you just have to buy some new Porsche’s and at least one GT car used from them. If you do that then you’ll most likely get the chance at a new one. Except, of course, that you’ll have depreciated a cayenne or a boxster or two by an amount roughly equivalent to the “overs”!

When I bought mine I seem to recall paying £10k over list for a 900 mile, 9 month old car. Also seem to recall we had just committed to brexit so at that point there was a little uncertainty, which probably helped a bit.

TheJimi

25,012 posts

244 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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Julian Thompson said:
Well I have a 991.1 gt3 and I love it. I don’t actually use the car at the moment because I’m too busy.
That's genuinely pretty sad, imo.

If you are *actually* physically too busy to enjoy the act of driving a car, that's pretty bad, man :-(

Julian Thompson

2,549 posts

239 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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Haha I understand how that might look but the car is on a storage ramp in my garage with another car and a friend’s motorcycles parked underneath it! It’s a right faff to extract it, tax it and then clean and look after it just at the moment when I have a million and one other things to do so it has sat there since The last time I used it in about February when it came back from Porsche service. Hopefully next summer I will able to enjoy it from a driving point of view smile


maxdb

1,536 posts

158 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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It looks nasty - I prefer the previous version over this.

Julian Thompson

2,549 posts

239 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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I feel certain it will be an incredible car. We might just be looking at the last petrol only GT3 here and let’s be clear - the Porsche guys do still have a passion to produce a great product, no matter what critique we chuck at them. I do think, however, that it will be expensive. I can’t help but think that the days of the “just over £100k” 911 GT3 are over and that Porsche will want some of the flippers immediate margin at initial sale. Could very easily be wrong on that. Just a feeling.

av185

18,514 posts

128 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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Esceptico said:
av185 said:
Esceptico said:
However, the last GT3 was many times too powerful to be able to use anything but a fraction of the power on the road.
Why was it?

Nothing beats the voice of armchair experience. hehe
I have owned a 996 GT3 and driven the 997.1, 991.1 and 991.2 GT3s. Unless you mean nothing beats the voice of the driving seat experience?
If you have driven a 991.2 GT3 at length then you will realise it is night and day to the 991.1 and probably one of the most involving hardcore GT cars that Porsche has made for quite some time. Involving at any speed.

Especially in 'manuel' format.

The engine alone is a masterpiece.

A future classic, much like the 458 Speciale.

driving

Julian Thompson

2,549 posts

239 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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I’ve not driven the .2 so I can’t comment but I’m sure my criticism of the .1 from a point of view of being gutless low down has been picked up on before and answered by virtue of the .2!

I can’t comment because I love my fart box M4 manual probably the most of any car. I’m clearly strange. Ok. Ok. I know. I’ll....getmecoat

Dale487

1,334 posts

124 months

Saturday 13th October 2018
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anniesdad said:
GT3's tug at the heartstrings like no other car for me. Lucky enough to have owned one and driven a few other different versions over the years.

This doesn't do anything for me I have to say. I know it's a mule but the fact that GT3's of old were lowered, narrow bodied Carrera's with a well thought out wing design and a small front splitter really appealed. If you knew, you knew.

This thing looks far too shouty to me and it's just getting bigger and bigger. Faster sure, but I've never felt short changed when driving GT3's thinking I wish it was faster.

Please Porsche do the right thing and bring out a true stripped out lightweight manual for the drivers. Make it about £30-£35K + options. Hell I don't even mind winding my own windows up. You can do this.
What you want is a Cayman Club Sport what we’re more likely to get is a Cayman T which will like the 911 has base car power but with more performance options available & be priced midway between the base model and the S.


LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

197 months

Saturday 13th October 2018
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anonymous said:
[redacted]
https://youtu.be/FmRNQpusmIQ

Testing in Italy, that definitely isn’t a turbo.

Wills2

22,878 posts

176 months

Sunday 14th October 2018
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MDL111 said:
I suspect in that scenario the GT2 would then get hybrid stuff in addition to boost power to 800-900 while the GT3 will make do with 600-650
When it has taken 19 years to go from 360hp to 500hp through the 6 iterations of the gt3 no way will the new one have 600-650hp more like 520hp which the RS already has.

Power has creeped up slowly over time they don't add 150hp...no one does.

pipknight

16 posts

77 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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What a car !!!! I can’t stop ‘Dribbling ‘ 😂 lol

Todd Bonzalez

2,552 posts

163 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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Imo that's just a disguised swan neck