RE: Cupra Ateca price announced

RE: Cupra Ateca price announced

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1,331 posts

227 months

Saturday 13th October 2018
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The wife has the 2.0tsi 190bhp excellence version and I like it alot more than I thought I would. Petrol lump while lacking in outright oomph pulls away smartly and surprises a few people.
Inside is well equipped if a bit dull but a nice place to be. It does handle well for a suv and is a good family size being upright with easy access door and big enough boot. We have my tanker of a v90 for a true family tardis!

I would consider one of these assuming they will be knocking on 30k once they have been out for a bit and discounts kicked in. Plus a remap will see what 360bhp plus a load more torque so a decent amount of shove in a smallish suv!

AJB88

12,454 posts

172 months

Saturday 13th October 2018
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Stage 2 400+ will make these fun!

Joe M

674 posts

246 months

Saturday 13th October 2018
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Sheepshanks said:
Joe M said:
Now, if they could bring out a tiguan with the rs3's engine...
How far away will the SQ3 be from that?
RSQ3 is on the list of cars to try.

Amateurish

7,755 posts

223 months

Saturday 13th October 2018
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spookly said:
Eh? How? I just gave back a Golf R estate I'd had on a 2 year lease. I never got more than 32mpg on a run, and averged more like 22mpg over 2 years.
It's all to do with driving style. My R estate is averaging over 35mpg long term (indicated). High 30s is normal on a run.

brogenville

931 posts

202 months

Saturday 13th October 2018
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Amateurish said:
It's all to do with driving style. My R estate is averaging over 35mpg long term (indicated). High 30s is normal on a run.
Agreed; I was regularly nudging 40mpg on a run in my R estate. Around town was mid 20’s.

herebebeasties

671 posts

220 months

Saturday 13th October 2018
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Amateurish said:
It's all to do with driving style. My R estate is averaging over 35mpg long term (indicated). High 30s is normal on a run.
If you're going to drive a Golf-R with a sufficiently light right foot to get 35mpg out of it long term, one does somewhat wonder why you didn't just get the 1.0 TSI instead...

legless

1,693 posts

141 months

Saturday 13th October 2018
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herebebeasties said:
Amateurish said:
It's all to do with driving style. My R estate is averaging over 35mpg long term (indicated). High 30s is normal on a run.
If you're going to drive a Golf-R with a sufficiently light right foot to get 35mpg out of it long term, one does somewhat wonder why you didn't just get the 1.0 TSI instead...
I had a touch over 36mpg long-term on my Golf R Estate, and I used the performance.

It's surprisingly frugal at a constant speed on a motorway (>40mpg is easily achievable without really trying). My commute involves 40 miles each way on the M1, and this balanced out the economy against the B road blasts quite nicely.

If it makes a difference, mine was the mk7.5 with the 7-speed box. It has a much taller top gear than the 6-speed and this seemed to make the difference while cruising.

spookly

4,020 posts

96 months

Sunday 14th October 2018
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herebebeasties said:
Amateurish said:
It's all to do with driving style. My R estate is averaging over 35mpg long term (indicated). High 30s is normal on a run.
If you're going to drive a Golf-R with a sufficiently light right foot to get 35mpg out of it long term, one does somewhat wonder why you didn't just get the 1.0 TSI instead...
Yeah. Exactly what I was thinking. Why bother with an R if you're going to try and nurse 40 mpg out of it.

spookly

4,020 posts

96 months

Sunday 14th October 2018
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legless said:
herebebeasties said:
Amateurish said:
It's all to do with driving style. My R estate is averaging over 35mpg long term (indicated). High 30s is normal on a run.
If you're going to drive a Golf-R with a sufficiently light right foot to get 35mpg out of it long term, one does somewhat wonder why you didn't just get the 1.0 TSI instead...
I had a touch over 36mpg long-term on my Golf R Estate, and I used the performance.

It's surprisingly frugal at a constant speed on a motorway (>40mpg is easily achievable without really trying). My commute involves 40 miles each way on the M1, and this balanced out the economy against the B road blasts quite nicely.

If it makes a difference, mine was the mk7.5 with the 7-speed box. It has a much taller top gear than the 6-speed and this seemed to make the difference while cruising.
If you're properly giving it the beans then you'll be getting more like 10 or 15 mpg. And at a fairly steady 90mph on the motorway it wont get anywhere near 40mpg.

ToothbrushMan

1,770 posts

126 months

Sunday 14th October 2018
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AJB88 said:
Stage 2 400+ will make these fun!
oh brother.....400 + really?

seems now that unless you have at least 300 amps under the bonnet you cant have fun anymore (implied). where are people actually using these levels of power on the roads? what once, twice maybe every 3 months at full chat? is it worth it?

legless

1,693 posts

141 months

Sunday 14th October 2018
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spookly said:
If you're properly giving it the beans then you'll be getting more like 10 or 15 mpg. And at a fairly steady 90mph on the motorway it wont get anywhere near 40mpg.
And that's possibly the difference. I couldn't do a steady 90mph on the motorway even if I wanted to. I travel at peak times, and setting the cruise to 70-75mph is a good balance between being able to do a steady speed and not getting baulked too often.

I don't find it fun driving quickly on the motorway anyway - that's what the back roads are for smile

herebebeasties

671 posts

220 months

Sunday 14th October 2018
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legless said:
I had a touch over 36mpg long-term on my Golf R Estate, and I used the performance.

It's surprisingly frugal at a constant speed on a motorway (>40mpg is easily achievable without really trying). My commute involves 40 miles each way on the M1, and this balanced out the economy against the B road blasts quite nicely.

If it makes a difference, mine was the mk7.5 with the 7-speed box. It has a much taller top gear than the 6-speed and this seemed to make the difference while cruising.
Ah,yes - I'd forgotten about the 7-speed box on the later ones - that definitely makes all the difference. The same engine with the 6-speed box in my Superb 280 won't really get more than 35mpg ever, even if you're being a total saint. The gearing in top is just too short.

PHuzzy

2,747 posts

173 months

Sunday 14th October 2018
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ToothbrushMan said:
oh brother.....400 + really?

seems now that unless you have at least 300 amps under the bonnet you cant have fun anymore (implied). where are people actually using these levels of power on the roads? what once, twice maybe every 3 months at full chat? is it worth it?
Daily in my case, you just need the right roads at the right times.

I'm in agreement with others and have mentioned it before, I picked the Cupra because I can and do drive it hard most of the time I'm in it, for the people who get rare opportunities... They may as well have picked the 1.8 FR and saved themselves a lot of money in the process.

I'm currently 11k miles into mine at a long term average of just under 23mpg, also managed 2 pairs of front tyres in that short period.

I think the problem with newer cars compared to older ones is that you actually do need to drive them hard (fast) to have any 'fun' because they're so good in all other areas they feel a bit muted.

Andy665

3,633 posts

229 months

Sunday 14th October 2018
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spookly said:
Eh? How? I just gave back a Golf R estate I'd had on a 2 year lease. I never got more than 32mpg on a run, and averged more like 22mpg over 2 years.
Agreed, my ST 300 4Drive has never seen more than 31, way less economical than my old M135i was and that got driven harder

Andy665

3,633 posts

229 months

Sunday 14th October 2018
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spookly said:
Eh? How? I just gave back a Golf R estate I'd had on a 2 year lease. I never got more than 32mpg on a run, and averged more like 22mpg over 2 years.
Agreed, my ST 300 4Drive has never seen more than 31, way less economical than my old M135i was and that got driven harder

Can't see this being a particularly great car, my ST300 is quick, comfortable, refined, handles well, well built and without doubt the dullest car I have ever owned

Edited by Andy665 on Sunday 14th October 11:17

PhilboSE

4,373 posts

227 months

Sunday 14th October 2018
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FredClogs said:
Like all these Suvs they're not more practical as family cars than a big estate or a people carrier
Because this car is smaller than a big estate or people carrier.

FredClogs said:
getting 5 people in that with a dog won't be anymore practical than it would in a Focus. Big on outside small on inside.
More space in the boot. More airiness in the cabin. No bigger on the outside than the Focus to which you compare, bigger on the inside. Sorry to burst your bubble.

FredClogs said:
And as a drivers car it'll be massively compromised by the laws of physics.
This trope comes out time and time again. You say that like a Focus is a paragon of driving dynamics. To say that it is "massively compromised" is just ridiculous hyperbole. These cars will be bought be people who want a smallish practical family car, and then want the version with a bit more zip. It won't be purchased by anyone seeking the last word in driving enjoyment, and it's very unlikely they'll pretend otherwise.

FredClogs said:
Silly, pointless, ineffective, a poor solution to an unneeded question.
I think you're too blinkered to understand the question to which this is an answer.


Amateurish

7,755 posts

223 months

Sunday 14th October 2018
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spookly said:
herebebeasties said:
Amateurish said:
It's all to do with driving style. My R estate is averaging over 35mpg long term (indicated). High 30s is normal on a run.
If you're going to drive a Golf-R with a sufficiently light right foot to get 35mpg out of it long term, one does somewhat wonder why you didn't just get the 1.0 TSI instead...
Yeah. Exactly what I was thinking. Why bother with an R if you're going to try and nurse 40 mpg out of it.
There's no nursing or hyper-miling needed. Mid to high 30s is normal driving. That's A roads and motorways making decent progress.

pardonmyenglish

107 posts

112 months

Sunday 14th October 2018
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According to spritmonitor, average mileage for the golf R is 28 mpg (10,0l/100km). Ok it's mainly from german owners but I found it to be quite accurate.

HM-2

12,467 posts

170 months

Sunday 14th October 2018
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I'd have actually expected that to be higher given that I'm averaging 29.5mpg in an M140i with a very heavy bias towards short urban journeys.

Suppose I don't have AWD though.

Amateurish

7,755 posts

223 months

Sunday 14th October 2018
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pardonmyenglish said:
According to spritmonitor, average mileage for the golf R is 28 mpg (10,0l/100km). Ok it's mainly from german owners but I found it to be quite accurate.
Honestjohn has it at 33.5mpg...

https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/realmpg/volkswagen/go...