RE: Citroen C6: Spotted
Discussion
Equus said:
gigglebug said:
So now you are speaking for everybody, how very noble of you Sir Equus of Must Get the Last Word In! You really are not obliged to suffer anything and yet here you are, still trying to derail the thread!?
And still seeking an answer to my question: buyers of Audi's what, oh great and wise arbiter of all that is literate? I am not the professional publishing cheap insults.
Or the person moaning about thread derailment whist doing exactly that.
Edited by gigglebug on Saturday 13th October 10:07
Hairymonster said:
Equus said:
gigglebug said:
So now you are speaking for everybody, how very noble of you Sir Equus of Must Get the Last Word In! You really are not obliged to suffer anything and yet here you are, still trying to derail the thread!?
And still seeking an answer to my question: buyers of Audi's what, oh great and wise arbiter of all that is literate? As Thumper said in ‘Bambi’,
“If you cant say something nice, don’t say nothing at all”
I’m sure this article was about a certain French Car with a dodgy accent or otherwise over the letter ‘e’, and not a pedants slanging match!
As an aside I didn’t realise that the 3.0 hdi was available for only the last 2 years in the UK, or that at that time options available were just a sunroof (panoramic glass??), revoking TGV rear seats and some sort of useless Wi-fi box
Personally I quite like these, if that is damning with faint praise and wouldn’t mind one to sit in my place near the Mediterranean coast in France when I eventually pull the trigger and buy one.
I looked at buying one last year as love them , but chose a JDM Legacy twinscroll , C6 still on my list.
My dad owns 2 C5s with the oil suspension, one of them being a 3.0 v6 diesel auto, as rare as rare can get for that model in the Uk.
Both C5s have been reliable, and have a different look about them, the v6 one is the most serene car to drive, smooth, effortless and better equipped as standard than many other manufacturers.
I know where owning a different and rare car comes from , cheers dad.
My dad owns 2 C5s with the oil suspension, one of them being a 3.0 v6 diesel auto, as rare as rare can get for that model in the Uk.
Both C5s have been reliable, and have a different look about them, the v6 one is the most serene car to drive, smooth, effortless and better equipped as standard than many other manufacturers.
I know where owning a different and rare car comes from , cheers dad.
gigglebug said:
Are there any owners on here who can comment from experience on the reliability of these? I expect the Citroën badge could, perhaps unfairly, put some folks off taking a punt on one.
I had 2006 & 2007 models, concurrently back in 2016. Why? well I bought a black on black one as I picked it up for a good price. It had all but 2 options. I enjoyed driving it so much, I decided I wanted a better one, with all the options (i.e sunroof and electric REAR seats). I then picked up a 2007 black exterior, cream interior, electric rear seat but no sunroof. Was a beautiful car to be in though (still wish it had a sunroof).These cars inside, where wonderfully insulated from road noise and external noise (loads of sound deadening and double pane glass), which meant that the stereo was fantastic to listen too. The interior quality felt as good as an A8 or S class in quietness and overall comfort, with nice touches like real wood veneer inside.
reliability wise, both mine where going over 100K miles on them, and apart from wearing droplinks and anti-roll bar bushes. Mechanically, just regular maintenance apart from that.
The 140K mile one (2006) snapped a crankshaft accelerating of a slip road onto the M25. Seized the engine (had all regular maintenance/jhistory etc and recently serviced). I've heard of this happening with the 2.7D on the Land Rover forums, and to be fair the independent mechanic, well known in Citroen circles said it was a rare issue (and did actually buy the car of me for his own use).
Honestly, apart from an odd failure of a engine common to JLR and PSA, the cars are reliable; I had no hydraulic issues/leaks, every toy worked (even the 2 stage boot spoiler).
I loved the cars, but sold the 2nd one as the wife simply hated Citroen's generally (said they are cheap cars/brand). When the one car had the engine trouble she said to sell the 2nd one immediately, refused to ride in it.
I replaced the Citroen's as my daily around London with a Bentley Turbo R, which used the same suspension technology in the. rear, and which I also loved, but once again the wife hated it, calling it an old man's car (I was 46 then and she's early 30s) and really refused to go anywhere in it (she was however fine to go anywhere in the DB9). I've then replaced the Bentley with a Maserati Quattroporte which is "acceptable" for her. I put all this in to say that despite having some nice cars, I'd still have a C6. I'd probably still jump at a petrol one, but I may get shot... LOL
The short story is that the C6 is a heavy car, so its a little hard on suspension rubbers, like all heavy cars are, but mechanically/electrically its on par reliability wise with any German. car I've owned (merc/bmw/vw/porsche).
sledge68 said:
I looked at buying one last year as love them , but chose a JDM Legacy twinscroll , C6 still on my list.
My dad owns 2 C5s with the oil suspension, one of them being a 3.0 v6 diesel auto, as rare as rare can get for that model in the Uk.
Both C5s have been reliable, and have a different look about them, the v6 one is the most serene car to drive, smooth, effortless and better equipped as standard than many other manufacturers.
I know where owning a different and rare car comes from , cheers dad.
The C5 never had the version of the hydraulic suspension that was in the C6- its a lower specification (for cost reasons); drive a C6 and it IS better.My dad owns 2 C5s with the oil suspension, one of them being a 3.0 v6 diesel auto, as rare as rare can get for that model in the Uk.
Both C5s have been reliable, and have a different look about them, the v6 one is the most serene car to drive, smooth, effortless and better equipped as standard than many other manufacturers.
I know where owning a different and rare car comes from , cheers dad.
Research AMVAR Hydractive 3+ (it was never fitted to the C5) and is true active suspension.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydropneumatic_suspe...
https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/features/top-10s/top...
Just to clarify that the author actually said twerps are those "who serially purchase anything with four rings or a three-pointed star on the grille"
It appears to me he is saying some one who keeps obtaining (let's face it, most won't be purchased) cars (regardless of their merits) solely because their badge happens to be an Audi one or Mercedes one, are twerps.
It appears to me he is saying some one who keeps obtaining (let's face it, most won't be purchased) cars (regardless of their merits) solely because their badge happens to be an Audi one or Mercedes one, are twerps.
gigglebug said:
Are there any owners on here who can comment from experience on the reliability of these? I expect the Citroën badge could, perhaps unfairly, put some folks off taking a punt on one.
I had the petrol Exclusive and I still regret selling it every time I see a C6. It was reliable over 18 months apart from ( as mentioned before) it being heavy on suspension parts. However they are difficult to sell. Mine was 18 months old with low mileage and I paid 11k for it. I had no calls at all privately advertised at 7k and 50 thousand miles and eventually sold it back to Citroen for 6k. It was the petrol version so maybe not as desirable ( for most people at the time). SydneySE said:
I had 2006 & 2007 models, concurrently back in 2016. Why? well I bought a black on black one as I picked it up for a good price. It had all but 2 options. I enjoyed driving it so much, I decided I wanted a better one, with all the options (i.e sunroof and electric REAR seats). I then picked up a 2007 black exterior, cream interior, electric rear seat but no sunroof. Was a beautiful car to be in though (still wish it had a sunroof).
These cars inside, where wonderfully insulated from road noise and external noise (loads of sound deadening and double pane glass), which meant that the stereo was fantastic to listen too. The interior quality felt as good as an A8 or S class in quietness and overall comfort, with nice touches like real wood veneer inside.
reliability wise, both mine where going over 100K miles on them, and apart from wearing droplinks and anti-roll bar bushes. Mechanically, just regular maintenance apart from that.
The 140K mile one (2006) snapped a crankshaft accelerating of a slip road onto the M25. Seized the engine (had all regular maintenance/jhistory etc and recently serviced). I've heard of this happening with the 2.7D on the Land Rover forums, and to be fair the independent mechanic, well known in Citroen circles said it was a rare issue (and did actually buy the car of me for his own use).
Honestly, apart from an odd failure of a engine common to JLR and PSA, the cars are reliable; I had no hydraulic issues/leaks, every toy worked (even the 2 stage boot spoiler).
I loved the cars, but sold the 2nd one as the wife simply hated Citroen's generally (said they are cheap cars/brand). When the one car had the engine trouble she said to sell the 2nd one immediately, refused to ride in it.
I replaced the Citroen's as my daily around London with a Bentley Turbo R, which used the same suspension technology in the. rear, and which I also loved, but once again the wife hated it, calling it an old man's car (I was 46 then and she's early 30s) and really refused to go anywhere in it (she was however fine to go anywhere in the DB9). I've then replaced the Bentley with a Maserati Quattroporte which is "acceptable" for her. I put all this in to say that despite having some nice cars, I'd still have a C6. I'd probably still jump at a petrol one, but I may get shot... LOL
The short story is that the C6 is a heavy car, so its a little hard on suspension rubbers, like all heavy cars are, but mechanically/electrically its on par reliability wise with any German. car I've owned (merc/bmw/vw/porsche).
Thank you for the detailed reply. They were still pretty strong money when I briefly considered looking at one, the very cheapest still being a five figure sum. There were just too many other options that were just as interesting to me especially when factoring in that it would have had to have been the petrol version for me and there were just none available at that particular time and even the nearest diesel was just too far away to consider going for a test drive. These cars inside, where wonderfully insulated from road noise and external noise (loads of sound deadening and double pane glass), which meant that the stereo was fantastic to listen too. The interior quality felt as good as an A8 or S class in quietness and overall comfort, with nice touches like real wood veneer inside.
reliability wise, both mine where going over 100K miles on them, and apart from wearing droplinks and anti-roll bar bushes. Mechanically, just regular maintenance apart from that.
The 140K mile one (2006) snapped a crankshaft accelerating of a slip road onto the M25. Seized the engine (had all regular maintenance/jhistory etc and recently serviced). I've heard of this happening with the 2.7D on the Land Rover forums, and to be fair the independent mechanic, well known in Citroen circles said it was a rare issue (and did actually buy the car of me for his own use).
Honestly, apart from an odd failure of a engine common to JLR and PSA, the cars are reliable; I had no hydraulic issues/leaks, every toy worked (even the 2 stage boot spoiler).
I loved the cars, but sold the 2nd one as the wife simply hated Citroen's generally (said they are cheap cars/brand). When the one car had the engine trouble she said to sell the 2nd one immediately, refused to ride in it.
I replaced the Citroen's as my daily around London with a Bentley Turbo R, which used the same suspension technology in the. rear, and which I also loved, but once again the wife hated it, calling it an old man's car (I was 46 then and she's early 30s) and really refused to go anywhere in it (she was however fine to go anywhere in the DB9). I've then replaced the Bentley with a Maserati Quattroporte which is "acceptable" for her. I put all this in to say that despite having some nice cars, I'd still have a C6. I'd probably still jump at a petrol one, but I may get shot... LOL
The short story is that the C6 is a heavy car, so its a little hard on suspension rubbers, like all heavy cars are, but mechanically/electrically its on par reliability wise with any German. car I've owned (merc/bmw/vw/porsche).
I still like the styling and the general ethos behind these though and if they are as relatively easy to live with as you suggest it may well be worth another look the next time I'm in the mood for a cheap luxurious runabout.
Edited by gigglebug on Saturday 13th October 12:54
nickod said:
I had the petrol Exclusive and I still regret selling it every time I see a C6. It was reliable over 18 months apart from ( as mentioned before) it being heavy on suspension parts. However they are difficult to sell. Mine was 18 months old with low mileage and I paid 11k for it. I had no calls at all privately advertised at 7k and 50 thousand miles and eventually sold it back to Citroen for 6k. It was the petrol version so maybe not as desirable ( for most people at the time).
That's a shame to hear. Yes diesel cars in general were certainly the popular choice at the time I was looking but to be fair there weren't many examples available at all at that particular point. How times have changed regarding the popular choice of fuels! How much had yours lost in value from new when you bought it?gigglebug said:
nickod said:
I had the petrol Exclusive and I still regret selling it every time I see a C6. It was reliable over 18 months apart from ( as mentioned before) it being heavy on suspension parts. However they are difficult to sell. Mine was 18 months old with low mileage and I paid 11k for it. I had no calls at all privately advertised at 7k and 50 thousand miles and eventually sold it back to Citroen for 6k. It was the petrol version so maybe not as desirable ( for most people at the time).
That's a shame to hear. Yes diesel cars in general were certainly the popular choice at the time I was looking but to be fair there weren't many examples available at all at that particular point. How times have changed regarding the popular choice of fuels! How much had yours lost in value from new when you bought it?alec.e said:
craigjm said:
Why? The mechanicals are well proven and the engine is used in JLR products and nobody speaks of borkage beyond the usual age related stuff
The 2.7d is well know for crankshaft bearing failure...The LR approved used warranty doesn’t cover crank failure!
nickod said:
From memory it was 39k new and I paid 11 from the Citroen dealership in Chalfont at 18 months and around 30k miles. Pretty epic depreciation.
Blimey! I knew they weren't particularly cheap but I didn't realise they were that much new. To be fair I doubt the original list price was ever paid for it but even with a very healthy discount it would have shed a massive amount within the first 18 months. It certainly would have looked to be a bargain when you picked it up. Always had a soft spot for these but didn't realise a petrol version was available. There are currently sixteen for sale on Autotrader, all diesels, quite tempting if I change the Alfa Giulietta I have at the moment. There are two I see quite regularly round here, one white, one black, both look very serene when wafting about.
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