RE: Citroen C6: Spotted
Discussion
P5BNij said:
Always had a soft spot for these but didn't realise a petrol version was available. There are currently sixteen for sale on Autotrader, all diesels, quite tempting if I change the Alfa Giulietta I have at the moment. There are two I see quite regularly round here, one white, one black, both look very serene when wafting about.
funny you should mention Alfa ownership... I just sold my 156 and GTV, but still have a Brera. Alfa's are very different beasts... the C6 has virtually no steering feedback, and the whole point of the suspension is to isolate you from the road, not feel it. There's a reason I had both.... If I could find a black one with the ivory interior and the lounge pack but with the 3.0 Diesel engine I would have one but unfortunately they are rare as hens teeth. The used market makes it seem they virtually stopped selling completely in 2010. I did see a very unusual one for sale last year that had dark brown leather which wasn’t even an option afaik. Looked great
As someone who fancies a car of this ilk next, I wouldn't really see it as an option.
Firstly, it is one of those cars that attracts the top-whack VED threshold of £540. That's a bit of a premium on top of annual costs, considering it's still only a 2.7 diesel with a bunch of Euro 4 emissions systems that could potentially go wrong (DPF, EGR and the like).
Secondly, it's definitely in the ball-park value of the 7-Series, Phaeton, A8, Superb and other similar cars. I don't think it has the edge over any of these in terms of the package - it certainly doesn't seem like it has the sort of interior that would make you feel like you were driving someone of status around (which is something that I think the first 3 offer, in terms of interior design/kit).
I haven't driven or sat in one, so could have incorrect assumptions on that part, but this seems like one of those cars you buy if you happen to like things that are french, odd-looking, uncommon, and have a waft of class about them - a bit like Gérard Depardieu.
Firstly, it is one of those cars that attracts the top-whack VED threshold of £540. That's a bit of a premium on top of annual costs, considering it's still only a 2.7 diesel with a bunch of Euro 4 emissions systems that could potentially go wrong (DPF, EGR and the like).
Secondly, it's definitely in the ball-park value of the 7-Series, Phaeton, A8, Superb and other similar cars. I don't think it has the edge over any of these in terms of the package - it certainly doesn't seem like it has the sort of interior that would make you feel like you were driving someone of status around (which is something that I think the first 3 offer, in terms of interior design/kit).
I haven't driven or sat in one, so could have incorrect assumptions on that part, but this seems like one of those cars you buy if you happen to like things that are french, odd-looking, uncommon, and have a waft of class about them - a bit like Gérard Depardieu.
cj2013 said:
As someone who fancies a car of this ilk next, I wouldn't really see it as an option.
Firstly, it is one of those cars that attracts the top-whack VED threshold of £540. That's a bit of a premium on top of annual costs, considering it's still only a 2.7 diesel with a bunch of Euro 4 emissions systems that could potentially go wrong (DPF, EGR and the like).
Secondly, it's definitely in the ball-park value of the 7-Series, Phaeton, A8, Superb and other similar cars. I don't think it has the edge over any of these in terms of the package - it certainly doesn't seem like it has the sort of interior that would make you feel like you were driving someone of status around (which is something that I think the first 3 offer, in terms of interior design/kit).
I haven't driven or sat in one, so could have incorrect assumptions on that part, but this seems like one of those cars you buy if you happen to like things that are french, odd-looking, uncommon, and have a waft of class about them - a bit like Gérard Depardieu.
Eh ? Firstly, it is one of those cars that attracts the top-whack VED threshold of £540. That's a bit of a premium on top of annual costs, considering it's still only a 2.7 diesel with a bunch of Euro 4 emissions systems that could potentially go wrong (DPF, EGR and the like).
Secondly, it's definitely in the ball-park value of the 7-Series, Phaeton, A8, Superb and other similar cars. I don't think it has the edge over any of these in terms of the package - it certainly doesn't seem like it has the sort of interior that would make you feel like you were driving someone of status around (which is something that I think the first 3 offer, in terms of interior design/kit).
I haven't driven or sat in one, so could have incorrect assumptions on that part, but this seems like one of those cars you buy if you happen to like things that are french, odd-looking, uncommon, and have a waft of class about them - a bit like Gérard Depardieu.
gigglebug said:
Equus said:
gigglebug said:
So the author of the peice is happy to suggest that the buyers of Audi's or Mercedes are "twerps" and yet struggles themself to spell Citroën without having a question mark within it?
To be fair, that's not the author's fault: it's PistonHead's website that's incapable of recognising the accent over the 'e'. I've had the same problem myself when typing forum responses with words that use accents - the forum software accepts the character when you type it, but then inserts a question mark for any character it can't recognise.It's 'piece' (i before e, except after c), by the way. People in glass houses...
Did you have anything to say about the car in question or was a clever comment enough for you?
sledge68 said:
I looked at buying one last year as love them , but chose a JDM Legacy twinscroll , C6 still on my list.
My dad owns 2 C5s with the oil suspension, one of them being a 3.0 v6 diesel auto, as rare as rare can get for that model in the Uk.
Both C5s have been reliable, and have a different look about them, the v6 one is the most serene car to drive, smooth, effortless and better equipped as standard than many other manufacturers.
I know where owning a different and rare car comes from , cheers dad.
The same process and result here... are you a brother I never knew I had?? My dad owns 2 C5s with the oil suspension, one of them being a 3.0 v6 diesel auto, as rare as rare can get for that model in the Uk.
Both C5s have been reliable, and have a different look about them, the v6 one is the most serene car to drive, smooth, effortless and better equipped as standard than many other manufacturers.
I know where owning a different and rare car comes from , cheers dad.
cj2013 said:
As someone who fancies a car of this ilk next, I wouldn't really see it as an option.
Firstly, it is one of those cars that attracts the top-whack VED threshold of £540. That's a bit of a premium on top of annual costs, considering it's still only a 2.7 diesel with a bunch of Euro 4 emissions systems that could potentially go wrong (DPF, EGR and the like).
Edited to include link etcFirstly, it is one of those cars that attracts the top-whack VED threshold of £540. That's a bit of a premium on top of annual costs, considering it's still only a 2.7 diesel with a bunch of Euro 4 emissions systems that could potentially go wrong (DPF, EGR and the like).
https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-tax-rate-tables/rates-f...
K* cars with a CO2 figure over 225g/km but were registered before 23 March 2006.
£315 vs £540
Anyone done a 2.2HDI conversion
What is so significant about 23 March 2016
Edited by saaby93 on Saturday 13th October 18:38
saaby93 said:
Edited to include link etc
https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-tax-rate-tables/rates-f...
K* cars with a CO2 figure over 225g/km but were registered before 23 March 2006.
£315 vs £540
Anyone done a 2.2HDI conversion
What is so significant about 23 March 2016
It'd have to be a very early one to sneak in to the lower band. Nearly all of them are post March 2006 that I've seen.https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-tax-rate-tables/rates-f...
K* cars with a CO2 figure over 225g/km but were registered before 23 March 2006.
£315 vs £540
Anyone done a 2.2HDI conversion
What is so significant about 23 March 2016
Edited by saaby93 on Saturday 13th October 18:38
The date is the day after the 2006 Budget was released (22 March 2006), with the higher thresholds coming in to play.
I've always had a soft spot for these.
Shame its £540 to tax, that could put some people off.
A couple of idiosyncrasies with this one, or maybe they are all like this? - why is the wood effect trim inlays different between left and right side of dashboard? Also the lower drivers door trim looks like it's painted on the drivers door but black plastic on the other doors?
Shame its £540 to tax, that could put some people off.
A couple of idiosyncrasies with this one, or maybe they are all like this? - why is the wood effect trim inlays different between left and right side of dashboard? Also the lower drivers door trim looks like it's painted on the drivers door but black plastic on the other doors?
audidoody said:
gigglebug said:
Equus said:
gigglebug said:
So the author of the peice is happy to suggest that the buyers of Audi's or Mercedes are "twerps" and yet struggles themself to spell Citroën without having a question mark within it?
To be fair, that's not the author's fault: it's PistonHead's website that's incapable of recognising the accent over the 'e'. I've had the same problem myself when typing forum responses with words that use accents - the forum software accepts the character when you type it, but then inserts a question mark for any character it can't recognise.It's 'piece' (i before e, except after c), by the way. People in glass houses...
Did you have anything to say about the car in question or was a clever comment enough for you?
I ran one of these for a couple of years (an 08 2.7 HDi) between 85k and 120k miles, sold it last summer.
It never let me down or failed to start, but often needed a bit of attention.
I got decent mpg out of mine, 45+ on long trips (plus it has a big tank), and it shifted fairly well when you needed it to.
I liked driving it, but I didn't want the hassle I was having with many trips to the local garage (minor faults, ABS sensors, suspension parts), so we parted ways.
It took a long time to sell and went for just over £3k despite FSH, everything working, and a set of fully refurbed wheels (with new tyre pressure sensors and decent tyres (Eagle F1 rather than the cheap mismatch I bought it with). I think the high tax puts a lot of people off.
It never let me down or failed to start, but often needed a bit of attention.
I got decent mpg out of mine, 45+ on long trips (plus it has a big tank), and it shifted fairly well when you needed it to.
I liked driving it, but I didn't want the hassle I was having with many trips to the local garage (minor faults, ABS sensors, suspension parts), so we parted ways.
It took a long time to sell and went for just over £3k despite FSH, everything working, and a set of fully refurbed wheels (with new tyre pressure sensors and decent tyres (Eagle F1 rather than the cheap mismatch I bought it with). I think the high tax puts a lot of people off.
Im on my second. The first one was crap and a big disappointment. I really wanted to love it, but after a few months of ownership i loved sitting in it and looking at it, but not driving it. I sold it on and vowed not to have another.......unless a nice black with cream came along. It did, so i bought it. I have had it a few years now. I dont use it, i like to look at it and sit in it, but the last one put me off actually using it..... One day. ....
cj2013 said:
As someone who fancies a car of this ilk next, I wouldn't really see it as an option.
Firstly, it is one of those cars that attracts the top-whack VED threshold of £540. That's a bit of a premium on top of annual costs, considering it's still only a 2.7 diesel with a bunch of Euro 4 emissions systems that could potentially go wrong (DPF, EGR and the like).
Secondly, it's definitely in the ball-park value of the 7-Series, Phaeton, A8, Superb and other similar cars. I don't think it has the edge over any of these in terms of the package - it certainly doesn't seem like it has the sort of interior that would make you feel like you were driving someone of status around (which is something that I think the first 3 offer, in terms of interior design/kit).
I haven't driven or sat in one, so could have incorrect assumptions on that part, but this seems like one of those cars you buy if you happen to like things that are french, odd-looking, uncommon, and have a waft of class about them - a bit like Gérard Depardieu.
Clearly you never sat in one... the seats are super adjustable (as much as any high end German) and the real wood veneer door bins on all 4 doors feature "soft close" when rising up to close themselves.... with the lounge pack the rear seats recline and a switch allows the rear seat passenger to push the front passenger seat forward for more leg room..... speaking of which, it has more front and rear leg room than standard length 7 series or S class etc.... the leather is of very good quality too. It has real active suspension (none of the germans had it at that time). The ride is far better, and the design obviously in a world of its own.... Firstly, it is one of those cars that attracts the top-whack VED threshold of £540. That's a bit of a premium on top of annual costs, considering it's still only a 2.7 diesel with a bunch of Euro 4 emissions systems that could potentially go wrong (DPF, EGR and the like).
Secondly, it's definitely in the ball-park value of the 7-Series, Phaeton, A8, Superb and other similar cars. I don't think it has the edge over any of these in terms of the package - it certainly doesn't seem like it has the sort of interior that would make you feel like you were driving someone of status around (which is something that I think the first 3 offer, in terms of interior design/kit).
I haven't driven or sat in one, so could have incorrect assumptions on that part, but this seems like one of those cars you buy if you happen to like things that are french, odd-looking, uncommon, and have a waft of class about them - a bit like Gérard Depardieu.
yes you're right, the car lacks "status" which clearly bothered my "other half" (used to my other cars which, still includes a db9, murcielago, Maserati quattroporte)... and may bother people looking for "status" on a budget. Personally I see no status in e-class merc (German taxi to me, I used to live in Munich) and as far as I can tell c&e class mercs are only "status" cars for Uber drivers.... S class mercs & A8s are for chauffeur companies. So for me a Citroen was not a "low status car" as its not your basic mincab/uber/chauffer car...
If I had the room, I'd still buy a SM Citroen.... perhaps worth having a cranky wife for.....
A C6 is super classy, from a design and engineering perspective, even if it lacks "perceived" status for some people.... take the Citroen badges off, and most people won't even know what it is.. LOL
As for EGR/DPF.... 10-15min at 3000 rpm on the freeway (I did this 5-6 days/week) regenerated the DPF, and I had no issues even with cars over 140K miles.... ditto the EGR... I believe similar is true for any diesel DPF car.... if you don't do freeway miles to allow DPF re-gen, the question is why are you even driving a diesel? They just make no sense for short/city trips...
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