RE: Citroen C6: Spotted

[leefee]

ah, one day I might mot it and put it on the road. It was at the right money to stash away, it will never be worth a little as its costing. I enjoy owning it, what's the issue? As lovely as they are, that feeling of "when is it going to st itself again" spoils the usability of it for me.

[Inspectre]

Had the "Pallas" version. What a car, loved it, sold on at Auction but no idea what happened to it? Had absolutely no problems with it and will have another C6 for sure sometime.

[Nick111B]

Rose tinted glasses perhaps, ran an Exclusive, bought off ebay in 2011, with cream interior and reclining rear seats for a year in between company cars. Was a dream to drive on the motorway, so unusual, sense of occasion, the closure on the door pockets, have been following a few in the past few months. My wife though recalls the amount of time it spent on ramps, though i recall no major failures other then usual sensors etc.I learnt not to look at the error codes and relax. The engine and transmission mechanicals are proven, the suspension worked a treat too.

Was a dream car, special car, the original owner contacted me a few years later having bought it back from an auction and was hunting for the towball.



Passed a 3.0 HDI on the M6 a few weeks ago.....went straight onto Autotrader to think about the possibilities again....or is it Avantime.....either way SWMBO still says No.

[craigjm]

Inspectre said:

Had the "Pallas" version. What a car, loved it, sold on at Auction but no idea what happened to it? Had absolutely no problems with it and will have another C6 for sure sometime.

As in this car which was a one off? When did you own it?

https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/18213/lot/308/

Any photos of it in your ownership?

[saaby93]

craigjm said:

Inspectre said:

Had the "Pallas" version. What a car, loved it, sold on at Auction but no idea what happened to it? Had absolutely no problems with it and will have another C6 for sure sometime.

As in this car which was a one off? When did you own it?

https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/18213/lot/308/

Any photos of it in your ownership?

£20K

[Francis85]

cj2013 said:

That sounds to me like you have dual mass flywheel and/or engine mount issues. I've had a lot of diesels, including larger engined varieties, and mostly high mileage, and have never had any experience of a "diesel shake".

I have never met a diesel owner who confess that his car shakes/vibrates through the pedals and steering wheel.
Even my petrol shakes and I am not scared of saying so.

[dazwalsh]

Francis85 said:

cj2013 said:

That sounds to me like you have dual mass flywheel and/or engine mount issues. I've had a lot of diesels, including larger engined varieties, and mostly high mileage, and have never had any experience of a "diesel shake".

I have never met a diesel owner who confess that his car shakes/vibrates through the pedals and steering wheel.
Even my petrol shakes and I am not scared of saying so.

Ive had a fair few peugeots and the most common fault on them was the dual mass flyhweel which seemed to be made of play doh. Warning signs of imminent failure are a slight juddering on idle and the sound 10 hungry chicks make waiting for their mother to return to the nest with a worm, you might need to open the bonnet to hear that though.

[Amanitin]

the pricing of the petrol versions is already dialed in as a future classic over in Germany

https://suchen.mobile.de/auto-inserat/citroen-c6-3...

[coppice]

The thing I adore about this big Citroen is that it was possibly the last car sold in that market sector with grown up and restrained styling . Most Mercs , Audis and BMWs have become cartoon like parodies of pumped up aggression - get an M4 in the mirror and it may as well be toting a baseball bat...

[ocrx8]

If I ever needed a barge to cover some miles - this would 100% be at the top of the list. Has aged very well in my eyes.

[saaby93]

Amanitin said:

the pricing of the petrol versions is already dialed in as a future classic over in Germany

https://suchen.mobile.de/auto-inserat/citroen-c6-3...

Japan possibly too
https://www.tradecarview.com/used_car/citroen/c6/

[V8 FOU]

SlowV6 said:

If only 300 rants per month could join the thread that would totally ruin it along with you two.

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Or Too Many Posts a French car person apparently...

[PistonBroker]

Closest I've got to this is a C5 2.0 HDi estate. It was an '03 that I bought as a stopgap car in 2011 when I was finding our CRV petrol a bit too juicy for my new job. It cost me £800 or so off eBay and ran faultlessly the whole time it was with me. After a while it occurred to me that my then employers had effectively bought it after 6 months of car allowance. That and the jibes from my line manager meant it got replaced by the only logical alternative . . . an NC MX5 2.0! The prat's jibes got even worse!

I'll concede I came perilously close to being a twerp as initially an A3 TDI or similar made sense.

Cracking curio this C6, but not for me.

[Macboy]

The mechanic who looks after my cars has a customer who recently bought one. £3000 and looked in lovely condition. It needed a few bits including a new seatbelt (dog chewed I think) and some tinkering with the A/C /heating. It was ruinously expensive both in parts and labour and the last time I checked it was still in the outdoor storage area (awaiting parts or a lottery win I'm not sure which). I have test-driven these on more than one occasion and come reasonably close to buying but a bill for 50% of its value is always looming and I've simply never been brave enough.

[wjwren]

I forgot, on mine the heating packed up. I used to keep warm in the winter by using the heated seats! Then randomly it started working before I sold it. I dont know what sets French cars apart from others but any ive had or friends have had always have bizarre electrical niggles.
My friend had a Pug 407, it had some amusing issues, horn stuck on, windows not working, bluetooth packed in, also the fan would come on randomly at some silly hour of the morning. The speedo also used to shake all over the place.

[Chestrockwell]

Imagine paying 5500 for one of these, by all means a nice car, probably nice to drive but 5500 grand gets you a manual E39 540i sport with low miles and the value will only go up.

Maybe at shed money yes, but as the previous poster said, with the risk of repairs reaching 50% of the cars value, who has the balls? Not many, this car will hang around for a while I reckon

[vsonix]

It's nice enough but the interior is too much of a beigefest, especially the dash and upper door cards.

[cj2013]

Chestrockwell said:

Imagine paying 5500 for one of these, by all means a nice car, probably nice to drive but 5500 grand gets you a manual E39 540i sport with low miles and the value will only go up.

This is indeed the issue. Comparative economy of what you're getting.

There aren't enough reasons to set it apart from other similarly priced Luxobarges, including something equally as (potentially) expensive to run like a Phaeton.

[SydneySE]

cj2013 said:

SydneySE said:

I've never driven a manual diesel... all have been automatic large cars; they have torque converters, so no Dual Mass Flywheel (they have a flexplate not a flywheel). Diesel compression results in vibration... hydro elastic engine mounts can help (the C6 actually has these- they soften at idle, and Harden up with speed) but there's no such thing as a smooth diesel...

My point is, if you can "feel diesel vibration" in the car, you either have:

• an unrefined car, or;
• a broken one

I guess my point is, I've yet to meet a diesel motor that in my opinion is as refined a petrol one... maybe my ass is to sensitive ;-)

cj2013 said:

SydneySE said:

Also, for reference:

SydneySE said:

all have been automatic large cars; they have torque converters, so no Dual Mass Flywheel (they have a flexplate not a flywheel).

In case you're not referring to just your own experiences, DSG gearboxes are an example of Autos with a DMF. Quite a lot of modern cars seem to be switching away from torque converters, which I assume is due to their inefficiency in terms of fuel (and thus emissions).

I wasn't aware that DSG are classed as "autos" perhaps they are; perhaps its my age, I thought DSG's are just more advanced versions of the single clutch robotised manuals (e-gear/F1 or SMG etc).

You made me think, so I googled, and came up with this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct-shift_gearbox

looks to me like for sure a DSG could have a DMF, but its not an "automatic" box, its two manual boxes in one housing..

[cj2013]

SydneySE said:

You made me think, so I googled, and came up with this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct-shift_gearbox

looks to me like for sure a DSG could have a DMF, but its not an "automatic" box, its two manual boxes in one housing..

From that same source:

`"A direct-shift gearbox (German: Direkt-Schalt-Getriebe[1]), commonly abbreviated to DSG,[2][3] is an electronically controlled dual-clutch[2] multiple-shaft manual gearbox in a transaxle design, without a conventional clutch pedal and with fully automatic[2] or semi-manual control."

From another definition:

"An automatic transmission, also called auto, self-shifting transmission, n-speed automatic (where n is its number of forward gear ratios), or AT, is a type of motor vehicle transmission that can automatically change gear ratios as the vehicle moves, freeing the driver from having to shift gears manually."

So you'd be scraping the limits of semantics to attempt to label a DSG as 'not automatic'