RE: Audi RS4 (B7): Spotted

RE: Audi RS4 (B7): Spotted

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blade7

11,311 posts

216 months

Monday 15th October 2018
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Escort3500 said:
swisstoni said:
I sniffed around these a while ago. I really like the small size and fairly restrained mean looks.
And if course the V8.
Was eventually scared off by reports of engine out for jobs you really shouldn’t have to.
Engine out for what? Not heard that before. You’re not thinking about the contemporary RS6 are you?
Not unheard of for the S4 to need the chains/tensioners replacing, that's an engine out job. Is an RS4 different?

hertfordshire1

143 posts

187 months

Monday 15th October 2018
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Pintofbest said:
hertfordshire1 said:
I also put the plate RS04 DAD on it, much to my kids delight - I wonder what car that plate is on now (as I sold it with the plate)...

Steve
It's still on the RS4 if AskMID is anything to go by.
I saw it on an B7 Avant a few years ago - so yeh its still on a RS4, just not my old one..

hooblah

539 posts

87 months

Monday 15th October 2018
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blade7 said:
Not unheard of for the S4 to need the chains/tensioners replacing, that's an engine out job. Is an RS4 different?
The rs4 uses a different design and doesn't suffer like the s4.

Escort3500

11,910 posts

145 months

Monday 15th October 2018
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ericmcn said:
E65Ross said:
Not that quick? Depends what you're used to but they're around 11secs to 100mph, now that's pretty quick by most standards.

Problematic..... Yes, although I've only experience from just 1 person. I don't think the cost necessarily means being without problems. The further you push the boundaries of technology, the cost goes up, and reliability can often go down.
For the outlay you could do better, I think that's the whole point. A 2 litre Subaru twinscroll is about 4 seconds worse off to 100 mph over the Audi and that is 'only' a 2 litre turbo and would be far less likely to break your wallet and cost much less too.
I’ve had friends/acquaintances who’ve had massive bills to fix their Subarus: turbos dying, premature crank and bore wear, gearboxes giving up etc. I’ve never seen stats to show that RS4s are any less reliable than comparable performance cars.


Edited by Escort3500 on Monday 15th October 14:14

blade7

11,311 posts

216 months

Monday 15th October 2018
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hooblah said:
blade7 said:
Not unheard of for the S4 to need the chains/tensioners replacing, that's an engine out job. Is an RS4 different?
The rs4 uses a different design and doesn't suffer like the s4.
The RS4 doesn't have chains and tensioners on the back of the engine?

Some Gump

12,691 posts

186 months

Monday 15th October 2018
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Christmassss said:
Thanks for the in depth answer smile
No worries smile

Managed to go 1 further...

http://www.volkspage.net/technik/ssp/ssp/SSP_377.p...

http://www.tbfh.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/RS4...

The bits above don't cover the R8 but i was wrong about the magazine assumption!

neilferg

30 posts

67 months

Monday 15th October 2018
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I bought a 2007 rs4 avant just over a year ago. Has always been one of my dream cars to own and bought it to replace my wife's 1.2 Skoda Fabia !Purchased with 115k miles and has now just ticked over 123k. Yes they can be expensive to maintain but hey it was a 60k car when new . In one year it's had the drc system fail ( fitted koni dampers for £700 instead of paying Audi 2k to replace the burst metal pipe). Also just replaced front discs and pads for approx £500 ( Audi wanted £1.2k for parts alone !). Saloons are cheaper than the avant. Yes ,there are various 2.0 turbo cars nowadays that would keep up with it and get twice the economy but you have to experience revving that v8 to 8.5k rpm! Still managed to just stay ahead of a remapped bmw 235i although that was probably due to traction issues for the bmw! I bought mine to use daily and not as an investment but could probably sell it for the same price I paid 13months ago. Would rather spend my money maintaining the rs4 than buying a new supermini and losing thousands in depreciation .

big_rob_sydney

3,404 posts

194 months

Monday 15th October 2018
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Some Gump said:
I've run an RS4 for 4-5 years, and would wholeheartedly recommend them to anyone that likes cars. Some say "they are not that fast" and I do wonder what the hell they've been driving - sub 5s to 62 and 11s to 100 is still "very fast" to most people!
As far as cars go, I've run a modified 22B. My last bike was a modified s1000rr which ran the quarter mile in under 9 seconds. The biggest issue was keeping the front wheel down, otherwise it would have trapped faster.

So yes, the RS4 is not that fast to me, but I appreciate everyone has their own benchmark.

E65Ross

35,082 posts

212 months

Monday 15th October 2018
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big_rob_sydney said:
Some Gump said:
I've run an RS4 for 4-5 years, and would wholeheartedly recommend them to anyone that likes cars. Some say "they are not that fast" and I do wonder what the hell they've been driving - sub 5s to 62 and 11s to 100 is still "very fast" to most people!
As far as cars go, I've run a modified 22B. My last bike was a modified s1000rr which ran the quarter mile in under 9 seconds. The biggest issue was keeping the front wheel down, otherwise it would have trapped faster.

So yes, the RS4 is not that fast to me, but I appreciate everyone has their own benchmark.
Meh, I've done the standing 1/4 mile in 6.9 @ 170mph hehe

Still wouldn't call an RS4 a slow car though.

Gorbyrev

1,160 posts

154 months

Monday 15th October 2018
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Escort3500 said:
ericmcn said:
E65Ross said:
Not that quick? Depends what you're used to but they're around 11secs to 100mph, now that's pretty quick by most standards.

Problematic..... Yes, although I've only experience from just 1 person. I don't think the cost necessarily means being without problems. The further you push the boundaries of technology, the cost goes up, and reliability can often go down.
For the outlay you could do better, I think that's the whole point. A 2 litre Subaru twinscroll is about 4 seconds worse off to 100 mph over the Audi and that is 'only' a 2 litre turbo and would be far less likely to break your wallet and cost much less too.
I’ve had friends/acquaintances who’ve had massive bills to fix their Subarus: turbos dying, premature crank and bore wear, gearboxes giving up etc. I’ve never seen stats to show that RS4s are any less reliable than comparable performance cars.


Edited by Escort3500 on Monday 15th October 14:14
Have a suspicion that the Lexus IS-F would be a more faithful partner. But you are right, performance comes at a cost. This is part of what American muscle attractive.

ericmcn

1,999 posts

97 months

Monday 15th October 2018
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E65Ross said:
Yes, but getting a Subaru is missing the point of the RS4.
True, but there is a high chance that RS4 will be a wallet drainer - hence ISF mention.

Leon R

3,206 posts

96 months

Monday 15th October 2018
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The only ISF available on pistonheads currently is almost eight thousand pounds more expensive than this RS4, admittedly it is a newer vehicle with much lower mileage but if you want something specific then rarity can make it much harder to find the right car.

The ISF is the only one of the four (C63, RS4, ISF and M3) that I didn't get a chance to view when I was looking, not because there were none available but I was after a facelift car and nobody was selling one at the time.

HannsG

3,045 posts

134 months

Monday 15th October 2018
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IS-F or an E46 M3 again please..

nwates

376 posts

184 months

Monday 15th October 2018
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Owned one awesome machines

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 15th October 2018
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big_rob_sydney said:
As far as cars go, I've run a modified 22B. My last bike was a modified s1000rr which ran the quarter mile in under 9 seconds. The biggest issue was keeping the front wheel down, otherwise it would have trapped faster.

So yes, the RS4 is not that fast to me, but I appreciate everyone has their own benchmark.
My uncle has a share in an and Extra 300 aircraft (twin seat). He allows me to fly it sometimes with him. I've been on some very fast motorbikes but the Extra is something else altogether in terms of performance. The biggest issue was keeping it on the ground. I'm sure the s1000rr is not slow but everyone has their own benchmark I guess.

motco

15,961 posts

246 months

Monday 15th October 2018
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Brighton Speed Trials 2018 results 9.0 sec was the fastest time of the day over a quarter mile. So PH contributors are faster...

Some Gump

12,691 posts

186 months

Monday 15th October 2018
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motco said:
Brighton Speed Trials 2018 results 9.0 sec was the fastest time of the day over a quarter mile. So PH contributors are faster...
Looks accurate!



Naturally, it took less than 1/4 mile for the TVR to break down wink

AC43

11,488 posts

208 months

Monday 15th October 2018
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Alucidnation said:
B6 would have been an s4

Still good cars though.
I'm not up on my model codes but there was certainly both an S4 and an RS4 version of the previous model. I looked at S4's before getting my first C43. The RS4 had a coswoth-reworked lump, fat arches and so on. Both Were V6's.

Teejay80

8 posts

154 months

Monday 15th October 2018
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AC43 said:
A mate of mine had one just like to replace his 996 C4 when kids came along. Awesome thing.

Another mate had the earlier B6 Avant which really was stealthy. His missus did a lot of short trips in that one, though, which resulted in a huge bill for some sort of top-end rebuild so he got shot of it in the end which was a real shame.
Your mate didn’t have a B6 RS4 Avant... because they never made a B6 RS4. B5 maybe?

PorkRind

3,053 posts

205 months

Tuesday 16th October 2018
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Probably the best rs4 made, just need to lay of the coke and you'll be ok... Do they tune up as well as the c63s?