RE: Ariel Atom 4 vs. Caterham Seven 620S

RE: Ariel Atom 4 vs. Caterham Seven 620S

Monday 22nd October 2018

Ariel Atom 4 vs. Caterham Seven 620S

A combined 630hp takes on a combined 1,200kg, in October. In the rain. Here goes nothing...



For how long now has the Caterham Seven been the definitive lightweight sports car? From Ginetta to Zenos, all have had to face the Seven as their benchmark, almost regardless of remit, powertrain or price. If it's light and it's British and it goes really fast, there will be some kind of Caterham to take it on.

Challenges to its greatness have rarely been as serious as this, though. The Ariel Atom has been so comprehensively overhauled for its fourth generation that keeping the same name almost seems to do it a disservice. While the look is familiarly bonkers, just two pedals and the filler cap are carried over - everything else is brand new. With nearly two decades and three generations of Atom building experience behind it, Ariel is understandably proud (and optimistic) about what it has created here. First impressions have been positive, extremely positive in fact, but the Seven hasn't been the de facto choice in this sector for so long for no reason. To unseat it the Atom will need tosurpass the wildest, lairiest, most powerful Caterham there is: the 620S.

That seems far too prosaic a name for a car with nearly four times the power of an entry level Seven - 'Destroyer' seems more appropriate, especially in this colour - but that's what we have. Can a turbocharged engine really match a supercharged equivalent of the same capacity? Will the Atom's additional width count against it on tight, demanding roads? How forgiving can a mid-engined car be against a famously approachable front-engined adversary? And will it ever stop bloody raining?


Yes, as you can probably tell, the weather could hardly have been less suited to these sorts of cars. On the A303, at Crewkerne, at Cheddar Gorge and seemingly everywhere in the south west, on the day we're shooting the weather is just appalling. There's no escaping it. We discuss postponing the shoot with Ariel, to spare both the car and the blushes of the plonker about to drive it. But Ben is on the way in a Caterham, and Luc is en route to photograph - the shoot has to go ahead. Tom from Ariel finds some waterproof trousers. He also explains the new dash layout, up to and including a TC dial that isn't yet wired up. Because it's pre-production. And he thought packing spare pants was a joke...

But it's all going to be fine, right, because the car puts you immediately at ease? Er, not exactly. Having never driven an Atom before, there's some trepidation around 320hp, 595kg, Avon ZZRs and not a single driver aid in this weather. Plus the associated distractions of being in an Atom, like watching all the incredible componentry do its respective jobs - best done as a passenger, that one. Truth told, this is where the lower power settings are welcome, delivering less boost, less noise and less savage performance. Ease yourself in gently, right? Rest assured just over 200hp and less than 600kg feels plenty brisk, thanks very much.

Soon enough though, despite not really being able to see, the incessant blasting of wind and the piercing cold, it all starts to make sense: this car is good. Really, really good. Nobody has died. This might almost be enjoyable. Oh wow, these gears are short if the shift lights are on already. Ah, that's wheelspin. Again.


Wound up to the full 320hp, the Atom 4's motor makes it terrifyingly fast, even at about 30 per cent throttle. The Civic Type R from whence it came delivers good throttle response and relatively little sense of turbo'd inertia (as well as being really quick), so the impression when it's propelling a car 800kg skinnier, as you can probably imagine, is one of near-immediate, unrelenting and really quite violent speed. It's insane. The Atom sounds like Darth Vader's Dyson too, whooshing and wheezing in response to every throttle application. Which is fun. But it says much of the Atom's manifest ability that this is a car capable of 0-100mph in six-point-something seconds, and yet it's not the performance that's the most memorable aspect.

Alright, that's a bit of a lie. The power is not the most memorable aspect of driving until the Atom wheelspins in fifth gear - then it is. Knew the pants were wise. Up until then it's a chassis and dynamic set up of such exquisite quality that shine brightest on a truly miserable day.

The steering is fabulous; measured, accurate and brimming with feeling, but without the kickback often associated with unassisted set ups. It's no exaggeration to say it's the best steering on any car today. The ride, alexquisite, deft in its control and endlessly compliant, making the Atom seem so much less skittish than you might expect. Beyond a bit of squidge right at the top of the pedal the brakes are stupendously good as well, immensely powerful but also very easy to modulate. Even in Somerset's monsoon season, ABS isn't missed. Finally, despite a user-induced scare, grip and traction are actually spookily good, all things considered. There's real, tangible quality to the Atom's driving experience; it isn't simply about overexposure to the elements and the white knuckle effect of too much power - there's joy to be had just interacting with it before you even get to the business of exploring its almighty potential.


When Ben arrives though, smug in the Seven, it's hard not to feel a tiny bit jealous. He has heated seats, after all. And a roof, of sorts. And, luxury of luxuries, a windscreen - the decadent sod. There's no escaping the fact, however, that the Caterham looks like what it is - which is quite old. It's almost dainty in the Atom's company, impossibly narrow and somewhat quaint against the mid-engined, modernistic Ariel.

Time to drive it. Or rather, get in it. Even with the roof off, getting comfy in an S3 is not the work of a moment, battling with the harnesses and desperately seeking more room. Quite frankly it's desperately cramped, intimate to the point of being uncomfortable. The dashboard is like Boggle for switchgear, making even less sense than usual jumping from the Atom, the ignition barrel is still fiddly and it simply doesn't feel as well built as the Atom does. Of course these things are about the drive above all else, but they are still £50k play things - you want them to feel worth it.

Has an Ariel Atom ever been the sensible, measured, mature option in a twin test? Probably not - but it is now. Because, to be blunt, in the wet, the supercharged Seven is an absolute bloody lunatic - completely, utterly berserk. Attempt the same sort of throttle applications as in the Atom and those tiny 13-inch wheels will be overspeeding immediately; it may use less focused Avon ZZS tyres than the Atom, but they're also just 215-section at the rear - the Ariel's ZZRs are 255-section, plus it has the natural traction benefits of its engine location.


Of course, once your aware of the fact that the 620S wants to do this pretty much everywhere, it's an absolute joy. It seems infinitely adjustable, playful and transparent on the throttle, perhaps more than any other Seven because there's such a surfeit of torque to manipulate the balance with. Being so narrow may mean the driver doesn't really fit, but it opens up the road significantly, and quite naughty slip angles can be indulged in the safety of your own lane. The powertrain, despite the best efforts of the Ariel, is the more exhilarating and satisfying here as well; the throttle response is more urgent, the sound more musical and the top end intensity - when you dare - just downright thrilling. Ally it to an even shorter, sharper shift than the very good one in an Atom and the Seven drivetrain is ecstasy.

Everything is so immediate and so raw, even against Somerset's finest. Throttle, steering, gearshift, the loss of grip and the way it comes back; there's no delay. Ever. You'll need to bring your A-game, because really this is more engine than a Caterham ever needed, but the rewards are commensurate - it's utterly wild, and completely lovable.

There's no escaping the fact, however, that the Atom 4 reveals flaws in the Seven. The more rudimentary suspension makes the latter less composed and more easily flustered in terms of wheel travel, which is not exactly ideal in these conditions. The brakes aren't as powerful, and the pedal feel is less reassuring (though bear in mind the discs that can be fitted behind 13-inch wheels, against 16- and 17-inch ones). In addition it's not like the Atom's higher limits are at the expense of playfulness - beat the traction and there's mid-engined balance and poise to spare, seemingly without the spikiness associated with the layout. (Well, it didn't spin with the weather like this, so that's encouraging.)


Put simply, beyond that shrieking supercharged Duratec, there's nothing that the Seven does that the Atom can't comfortably match or, in most cases, surpass. Of course you would hope that a four-year, ground up redesign would see it triumph over the old stager, but the difference is marked.

By being a more accomplished and more rounded driving experience, it feels like there's more to learn and explore in an Atom than there would be in the Seven. Truthfully this is not Caterham at its most compelling, the architecture probably overawed (in a hilariously entertaining way) by more than 300hp rather than really designed for it - a non-supercharged 2.0-litre is more likeable. And sane. The Atom, on the other hand, feels designed for 320hp because it, er, was designed for 320hp.

The end result, therefore, is that the Atom is more intriguing as a static object, has greater depth as a driver's car, feels of higher quality and costs less money. Caterhams are fabulous things - success is not enjoyed for this long with a mediocre product - but the concept's weaknesses are laid bare in this company. There should be no shame in coming runner up though, as the Ariel Atom 4 is not simply the best car in this test - it's one of the best cars of this year.


SPECIFICATION - ARIEL ATOM 4

Engine: 1,996cc, turbocharged four-cyl
Transmission: 6-speed manual, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 320@6,500rpm
Torque (lb ft): 310@3,000rpm
0-62mph: 2.8sec
Top speed: 162mph
Weight: 595kg
MPG: 30 (est)
CO2: (tbc)
Price: from £39,950

CATERHAM SEVEN 620S

Engine: 1,999cc, supercharged four-cyl
Transmission: 5-speed manual, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 314@7,700rpm
Torque (lb ft): 219@7,350rpm
0-60mph: 3.4sec
Top speed: 145mph
Weight: 610kg
MPG: N/A
CO2: N/A
Price: from £46,410


























 







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Discussion

Nik Gnashers

Original Poster:

769 posts

156 months

Saturday 20th October 2018
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Thank you, very good article, really enjoyed reading.
I would love either, but I have to admit, when I see an atom, it is an awesome looking thing and stunningly fast yet it just doesn't have that timeless appeal for me. Every time I see a Caterham on the road, I want one so badly.

Quickben

43 posts

160 months

Saturday 20th October 2018
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So much want for both these cars.

Now, if only you could have the engine from the Caterham in the Atom.........

Jerseyhpc

31 posts

105 months

Saturday 20th October 2018
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Surely the 620R is the comparator for the Atom 4? No creature comforts and track biased. If you want more space go SV... I can’t think why though, I’m 6’4 and 15 stone and I hate SVs because you feel so...loose in the cockpit.
Caterham did however redesign the Seven, it was the CSR and it was wonderful. With pushrod front and independent rear suspension it rode and gripped beautifully. Build a new CSR today with the Supercharged motor from the 620 and see what happens.
Can’t beat the Atom on value though!

eliot

11,434 posts

254 months

Saturday 20th October 2018
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Had a drive in both types of car at a Palmersport day (plus the single seater, prototype syle thing, m3 etc) and the Atom was the best car of the day.

Nerdherder

1,773 posts

97 months

Saturday 20th October 2018
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Nik Gnashers said:
Thank you, very good article, really enjoyed reading.
I would love either, but I have to admit, when I see an atom, it is an awesome looking thing and stunningly fast yet it just doesn't have that timeless appeal for me. Every time I see a Caterham on the road, I want one so badly.
Amen. 11/10 article, thank you Matt! Absolutely love the darker than usual rained upon pictures too.

P.s. I'll have a 310 please.

Tin Hat

1,371 posts

209 months

Saturday 20th October 2018
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eliot said:
Had a drive in both types of car at a Palmersport day (plus the single seater, prototype syle thing, m3 etc) and the Atom was the best car of the day.
Me too, and totally agree-A devastating piece of kit

Big GT

1,812 posts

92 months

Saturday 20th October 2018
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he he he he 320hp and 600kg silly

With 360bhp at 1100kg full throttle is nearly impossible in a TVR speed6. These things must be insane.

So glad they exist.

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

234 months

Saturday 20th October 2018
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My Caterham Superlight with 140bhp and 175 section rears is comical in the wet. Roundabout. 20 mph, less than 50% throttle and lots of oversteer. The 620 cars must be daft.

Not sure I would part with over £50k for a Seven. Sub £30-35k they are great bang for buck though.

arkenphel

484 posts

205 months

Saturday 20th October 2018
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Great article! I enjoyed reading that! I would have both, thank you very much.

dandare

957 posts

254 months

Saturday 20th October 2018
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A good article. Thanks.

I love the Ariel, and believe that it may top the Seven for abilities, but I still prefer the Seven. I could live with one day to day, whereas the Atom is a bit too conspicuous for me.

An excellent pair of fun cars. Either would do.

coppice

8,614 posts

144 months

Saturday 20th October 2018
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The Seven is surprisingly accommodating - I am 5-11 and well built but did many 300mile plus days in my 100k miles of S3s ( from 128 bhp to 220 bhp ) . Hopeless in the wet and sublime in the dry. Narrowness an underappreciated asset - and Seven's svelte hips mean even a tight country road has lines you can take.

Build quality - and mine was factory built- risibly poor by most standards . Don't buy a Seven if panel gaps worry you. Or heroic noise levels, water ingress , short range , transmission shunt and whine and awful lights . Or comically awful 'customer care ' - Caterham can be terrible to deal with . An can be very helpful too- it's a pot luck kinda thing


The Atoms I have seen on track do seem to understeer a lot before snapping into oversteer ,but think this version far better? And the build quality is on a different planet .

peterattheboro

1,362 posts

183 months

Saturday 20th October 2018
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Great pictures clap

mooseracer

1,895 posts

170 months

Saturday 20th October 2018
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1) Caterham make the 620R so the S isn't the wildest
2) What does alexquisite mean?

Must have got some strange looks driving those 2 in that weather!

g7jhp

6,966 posts

238 months

Saturday 20th October 2018
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The new upstart v the old master.



This pic sums it up for me. The Aton is very new and look at me, the 7 is retro and the car I'd want.

Would have to be a 180bhp, 360R in lime green. Perfect for the UK roads.

subirg

718 posts

276 months

Saturday 20th October 2018
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Interesting read for a change! Will be great to see how these two compare on the track in the dry.

Mighty fine achievement from Ariel - and to think this is the probably just the base spec engine...

At the end of the day, these are two great British Sportscar makers churning out fantastic products. They are different enough to coexist and thrive together. Brilliant!

Fastlane

1,153 posts

217 months

Saturday 20th October 2018
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subirg said:
Interesting read for a change! Will be great to see how these two compare on the track in the dry.

Mighty fine achievement from Ariel - and to think this is the probably just the base spec engine...

At the end of the day, these are two great British Sportscar makers churning out fantastic products. They are different enough to coexist and thrive together. Brilliant!
Well said. Fifth Gear last night https://www.questod.co.uk/show/fifth-ge ... HD_226382B, had a piece with Jason Plato and Karun Chandhok comparing lightweight track cars - an Atom 3.5R vs Caterham 620R vs Xenos E10R vs Radical SR1. It wasn't the most scientific of tests - but the 3.5R came out top. At the end of the piece, Plato comments that the 3.5 is due to be replaced and briefly shows the 4 right next to the 3.5.

The factory are already discussing the performance options available to take the Atom 4 well beyond the 3.5R and therefore any Caterham built (so far). Can't wait to see how Caterham respond...


Edmundo2

1,345 posts

210 months

Saturday 20th October 2018
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It would be interesting to see how they compare in warm dry conditions..?

My Force PT hillclimber is 185bhp in 290kgs, ( similar power to weight ), and on inters in the wet it's pretty terrifying and hard to get the power down with a lack of weight over the driven,( any ), wheels. If it were a road car the thought of taking it out in a monsoon would simply be a bad idea. I might consider it for a second before having a chuckle and putting the keys back in the man drawer..
In the dry however it's phenomenal!

I suspect the Caterham would close the gap in this test for the same reasons as it's a big advantage for the Atom to have a lot more of its weight over the driven wheels in this situation..

No doubt the Atom would also feel different again in dry weather. No doubt it it would be mega quick in a heat seaker kind of way. That said I think the Caterhams size and ability to overwhelm the rear grip would mean it could be driven very very quickly all be it in a slightly more lurid, ( and possibly more fun ), fashion than the Atom..?

I've never driven an Atom and it looks to be a better car in terms of quality, design and indeed overall pace. However I can't help but think that if I tested both back to back in the right weather it would be the Caterham that would have me smiling the most which is the sole purpose for buying either...


Fastlane

1,153 posts

217 months

Saturday 20th October 2018
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Edmundo2 said:
It would be interesting to see how they compare in warm dry conditions..?

My Force PT hillclimber is 185bhp in 290kgs, ( similar power to weight ), and on inters in the wet it's pretty terrifying and hard to get the power down with a lack of weight over the driven,( any ), wheels. If it were a road car the thought of taking it out in a monsoon would simply be a bad idea. I might consider it for a second before having a chuckle and putting the keys back in the man drawer..
In the dry however it's phenomenal!

I suspect the Caterham would close the gap in this test for the same reasons as it's a big advantage for the Atom to have a lot more of its weight over the driven wheels in this situation..

No doubt the Atom would also feel different again in dry weather. No doubt it it would be mega quick in a heat seaker kind of way. That said I think the Caterhams size and ability to overwhelm the rear grip would mean it could be driven very very quickly all be it in a slightly more lurid, ( and possibly more fun ), fashion than the Atom..?

I've never driven an Atom and it looks to be a better car in terms of quality, design and indeed overall pace. However I can't help but think that if I tested both back to back in the right weather it would be the Caterham that would have me smiling the most which is the sole purpose for buying either...
Atom's have never been about setting lap times or going flat out, but rather having fun.

seawise

2,146 posts

206 months

Saturday 20th October 2018
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Really good article/photos - makes me want to go out and buy either, although understand it would be a long wait for either due waiting lists, which says good things about their respective appeal to buyers. Proper bespoke sports cars, love either in my garage, but would go for the mad Caters probably, utterly unhinged!

darren f

982 posts

213 months

Saturday 20th October 2018
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DDg said:
As a Caterham owner, at this price level the Atom would be the one, although the width of it is a shame.
Agreed- I'm the same (R300K owner) and part of the USP of a Caterham is the narrow width that permits you to place the car 'just so' on the road (... being able to see the front wheels helps biggrin ) and to have the option of a 'wide entry-apex-run out on exit' line whilst staying on the correct side of the white line. I'd hate to lose that facility, still at that price the Atom would be still be massively tempting if I were looking at that sort of car and price bracket.

I've always been a bit bemused by the real high powered Caterhams, Maybe I'm too soft (.. or old frown ) but certainly at times my car feels approaching being too compromised for road usage- on some days anything other then smooth tarmac does become hard work. And this is with 160bhp, goodness knows how 300+ feels! 'You pays your money' etc. etc.but at those levels of power I've always thought a serious amount of track-day activity would be a must, otherwise you'd only be exploiting a minimal percentage of its real abilities.



Edited by darren f on Saturday 20th October 11:45