RE: Ariel Atom 4 vs. Caterham Seven 620S

RE: Ariel Atom 4 vs. Caterham Seven 620S

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Iamnotkloot

1,439 posts

148 months

Saturday 20th October 2018
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Two fabulous cars.

I must confess to only having driven an Atom (must get round to a Caterham) and it was thrillingly insane, I loved it.

sideways man

1,324 posts

138 months

Saturday 20th October 2018
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Top read!!
As a serial Westfield owner, I’d have to go for the Caterham.
I also had a fifth gear track day Atom experience, but the guys wouldn’t allow any sort of throttle except in a straight line, very frustrating. Must try the new version.

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 20th October 2018
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Awesome.

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

235 months

Saturday 20th October 2018
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yonex said:
Awesome.
Good job on the Atom order...looks to be a cracking choice!

xjay1337

15,966 posts

119 months

Saturday 20th October 2018
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Nice read.
Not sure what car I prefer more personally.. Atom with a roof? ;-)

ajprice

27,664 posts

197 months

Saturday 20th October 2018
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Those two models do look a pretty even match, Caterhams go down to the 160 and 270 models though. How about an Atom equivalent of those, smaller engine (the Caterham 160 has a 80bhp Suzuki 660cc turbo, still lists the 0-60 under 7 seconds) and the same weight or a bit lighter smile .

Tickle

4,953 posts

205 months

Saturday 20th October 2018
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Great article PH, nice photography too.

Tough call for me; love the chassis, design detail and development of the Atom. However, the footprint, layout, screen and wheel-sizing of the 7.

A lovechild of them both maybe; exposed chassis, superb build and design detail, mag 13" wheels, low front engine, small footprint and a screen.

Wishful thinking on my behalf, as I've not got £50k for my second car or the skill to exploit something north of 600bhp/ton.

mike150

493 posts

201 months

Saturday 20th October 2018
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I'm currently looking for a used high end fun car and I'm in the Caterham camp...………………


I really admire the Atom, in many ways I think its a better car in terms of build quality and quality components but the one drive I had in an Atom albeit a 2 NA 245bhp and my experience was a bad feeling about the way the car drove, really twitchy and nervous, it felt like it wanted to go through a hedge most of the time so I really didn't like it. At the time I had a 170bhp Westfield and it was a much nicer car to drive and actually felt almost as fast.

I had gone to buy it and obviously didn't. Even if they have moved on in terms of ease to drive fast the weather exposure surely must make them very unpleasant for 90% of the year, you need a 25deg day to enjoy one or else wear motorbike gear and I personally don't want to do that in a car, I've got a BMW S1000R for that!

My experience of Caterhams are the opposite in terms of handling and warmth and yes an S3 fits like a tight climbing shoe but to me that's a plus. There's always an SV if you want space.

I still have an occasional wee look at Atoms for sale though!

andy_s

19,421 posts

260 months

Saturday 20th October 2018
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Great article!

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 20th October 2018
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SidewaysSi said:
Good job on the Atom order...looks to be a cracking choice!
Cheers!

It’d be rude to mention that JE have reached 425HP with the K20C1, stock everything. That’s a big number biggrin

Having said that the 3.5 is endlessly amusing and It’ll be very sad to let it go. Nothing sounds as epic as a supercharged Atom with a sports exhaust at full chat IMO.

redroadster

1,762 posts

233 months

Saturday 20th October 2018
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Not everyone wants to drive with a crash helmet on ,and u could go camping in the 7 bit of space to pack a tent so it's got more of a practical side ....

Striple

179 posts

142 months

Saturday 20th October 2018
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Would love either of those. It would be such a difficult decision to pick a second car for fun, if you had a £50k budget. My list would include these plus an m3, a Porsche, or some kind of Japanese weapon GTR, nsx etc. It would take forever narrowing it down.

scorcher

3,987 posts

235 months

Saturday 20th October 2018
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Spotted these two in the gorge last .Monday. Was going to show you how to take horseshoe bend at some proper pace but was in a 1.0 Skodabiglaugh. Caterham for me though just because it’s a tiny bit more practical.

edwheels

256 posts

147 months

Saturday 20th October 2018
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Great read and I must say, stunning photography - it really sells the abilities and characters of both cars so well.

Murph7355

37,803 posts

257 months

Saturday 20th October 2018
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Decent article.

As a long time Caterham owner, I like Atoms. Almost bought one a while back (as an addition rather than a replacement).

As others have mentioned, the extra width of an Atom would seriously count against it point to point on b-roads. It's over 20cm wider than an S3 7, and on tight roads this really counts.

Am noticing that modern cars seem to be getting ever wider, which is a real shame.

0a

23,906 posts

195 months

Sunday 21st October 2018
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Thanks, I really enjoyed that article.

These types of cars would be what I would go for first in the lotto garage!

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

235 months

Sunday 21st October 2018
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Just spotted the 620 weight - it's a bit of a porker isn't it?

downsman

1,099 posts

157 months

Sunday 21st October 2018
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Good article, (I would have been happy if it was a little longer) and great photos. I'm glad you went for it despite the rain smile

As a Caterham owner, I'm not impartial, but the small size of the S3 Seven is its unique selling point now. There's no car more at home on a British B road and I have taken my wife away for a week touring and still remain married, so the extra practicality helps. But £50,000 for a 620, no thanks, driving on the road in my Seven (125 bhp) I have never thought I need another 185bhp.

The Atom does look beautifully finished and more like it is worth that sort of money, but if I had to wear motorcycle gear and helmet, I would buy a bike instead.

craig2003

1,206 posts

207 months

Sunday 21st October 2018
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SidewaysSi said:
Just spotted the 620 weight - it's a bit of a porker isn't it?
The S is quite a lot heavier that the R.
The R can hit 60 in 1st gear in just less than 2.8 seconds

jason61c

5,978 posts

175 months

Sunday 21st October 2018
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Caterhams have been massively overpriced kitcars for years. Very capable, however factory builds aren’t great quality, especially given the massive amount they cost.