RE: Ferrari 348: PH Used Buying Guide
Discussion
anonymous said:
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The good old days, like when Darren from primary schools older sister didnt come back from a trip to Anglessey as the had a car crash near Red Wharf bay, she was 11 and was sat in the middle rear seat and not wearing a seatbelt, nobody was, she would be about 51 now but as it is she died there and then next to the road.Those meddlers wanting us to wear things that hold us into the low flying projectile we hurtle round in, the b
ds !Was such fun rolling round in the back of a Chevette with the seats folded down on the way back from High Edge raceway round the bends, but I have got to 48 and got away with it.
People have a low bar in terms of common sense, for those with some brain power, the rules arent that hard.
Autonomy is a long way away, I doubt any of us will still be alive when it is commonplace.
But, its nice to wallow, now is boring, the future is scary and wasnt the past lovely, jumpers for goalposts, isnt it ?
While cars driven by humans might decrease in number, one thing likely won't change - and that's motorcycles, because of their space efficiency which results in alleviating congestion. And motorcycles are less likely to be self-driven (yes I know there's a BMW R1200GS which technically self-driven now, but the system is far from perfect). Soo get your bike licenses now folks - they might come for our V8s and flat-6s soon, but they won't come for our 2-wheeled I4s and V2s anytime soon
What I don't understand is why govts have to persecute car drivers rather than beef-eaters, which contribute more greenhouse gasses than cars. Tax beef and not cars!
I like the 348 but It doesn't sound as good as the 355 for some reason, and it looks bulkier next to the rather lithe 355 (I do like the rear of the 348 though)
What I don't understand is why govts have to persecute car drivers rather than beef-eaters, which contribute more greenhouse gasses than cars. Tax beef and not cars!
I like the 348 but It doesn't sound as good as the 355 for some reason, and it looks bulkier next to the rather lithe 355 (I do like the rear of the 348 though)
J4CKO said:
anonymous said:
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The good old days, like when Darren from primary schools older sister didnt come back from a trip to Anglessey as the had a car crash near Red Wharf bay, she was 11 and was sat in the middle rear seat and not wearing a seatbelt, nobody was, she would be about 51 now but as it is she died there and then next to the road.Those meddlers wanting us to wear things that hold us into the low flying projectile we hurtle round in, the b
ds !Was such fun rolling round in the back of a Chevette with the seats folded down on the way back from High Edge raceway round the bends, but I have got to 48 and got away with it.
People have a low bar in terms of common sense, for those with some brain power, the rules arent that hard.
Autonomy is a long way away, I doubt any of us will still be alive when it is commonplace.
But, its nice to wallow, now is boring, the future is scary and wasnt the past lovely, jumpers for goalposts, isnt it ?
Ross tinted visions of the past are just that.
The 355 is the better looker to my mind, but it's hard to ignore the price differential when I gather the 355 isn't all that different.
Earlier in the year I stumbled upon a Dutch auction outfit running an online auction for a Testarossa and a 348 that had 355 panels on it. The cars were here in Somerset. I never saw what they went for but bidding was low at the time and I haven't stopped daydreaming about them ever since!
Interesting to read about the on-limit handling. Back in the mid-noughties I recall a Motor Trade client of a colleague appearing in the office with cuts and bruises. Turned out he'd just flipped his 348 Spider on the nearby dual carriageway which is pretty straight, albeit bumpy.
Earlier in the year I stumbled upon a Dutch auction outfit running an online auction for a Testarossa and a 348 that had 355 panels on it. The cars were here in Somerset. I never saw what they went for but bidding was low at the time and I haven't stopped daydreaming about them ever since!
Interesting to read about the on-limit handling. Back in the mid-noughties I recall a Motor Trade client of a colleague appearing in the office with cuts and bruises. Turned out he'd just flipped his 348 Spider on the nearby dual carriageway which is pretty straight, albeit bumpy.
In response to the posts saying that classic cars won’t be able to be used in the medium term future - why?
The restrictions in cities is for diesels, not petrol cars.
The changes in technology up to driverless cars don’t stop your 1915 Rolls Royce convertibles driving in rally’s with no seat belts or any safety features.
The worlds markets collapsing will bring the prices down but don’t think that petrol is disappearing in the next 100 years.
Regardless of how difficult it is to drive a classic car, I can’t see road tax being an issue when many owners pay £1,000’s per year just to keep them running.
Then you have the trading possibilities - you can buy shares in cars like the F40 meaning some cars are the equivalent of a work of art or a share portfolio.
My 2p anyway
The restrictions in cities is for diesels, not petrol cars.
The changes in technology up to driverless cars don’t stop your 1915 Rolls Royce convertibles driving in rally’s with no seat belts or any safety features.
The worlds markets collapsing will bring the prices down but don’t think that petrol is disappearing in the next 100 years.
Regardless of how difficult it is to drive a classic car, I can’t see road tax being an issue when many owners pay £1,000’s per year just to keep them running.
Then you have the trading possibilities - you can buy shares in cars like the F40 meaning some cars are the equivalent of a work of art or a share portfolio.
My 2p anyway
I bought one after lusting after a Ferrari since a child
Truly awful things. Slow, unreliable, high speed handling borders on dangerous, sticky plastics etc etc Even Luca di Montezemolo thought it was awful (after he was beaten away from the lights by a Golf GTI) - hence the 355 was quickly ushered into production.
The problem has been exacerbated by the fact that these were sub 25k cars a few years ago - and maintained by those who couldn't properly afford to maintain them.
Each cambelt service I had was in excess of £4000 and parts are extremely expensive ( nearly £4000 for the rubber seal that runs around the targa roof IIRC)
Prices are falling fast from where they were a couple of years ago
Truly awful things. Slow, unreliable, high speed handling borders on dangerous, sticky plastics etc etc Even Luca di Montezemolo thought it was awful (after he was beaten away from the lights by a Golf GTI) - hence the 355 was quickly ushered into production.
The problem has been exacerbated by the fact that these were sub 25k cars a few years ago - and maintained by those who couldn't properly afford to maintain them.
Each cambelt service I had was in excess of £4000 and parts are extremely expensive ( nearly £4000 for the rubber seal that runs around the targa roof IIRC)
Prices are falling fast from where they were a couple of years ago
Edited by Candellara on Friday 26th October 13:45
Edited by Candellara on Friday 26th October 13:46
BBC:
Bans and fines proposed for some European cities
So far it has banned all conventional cars built before 1997 from entering the city centre on weekdays between 8am and 8pm. Diesels registered before 2001 are also prohibited. Drivers breaching the bans face heavy fines.
Next year, the restrictions will be widened to include pre-2005 diesels. The clampdown will then continue in stages. Diesels are due to be outlawed altogether in 2024, and petrol cars in 2030.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/...
Don’t drive your classics through cities then - you can do Guildford to Le Mans without driving through a city? ;-)
Bans and fines proposed for some European cities
So far it has banned all conventional cars built before 1997 from entering the city centre on weekdays between 8am and 8pm. Diesels registered before 2001 are also prohibited. Drivers breaching the bans face heavy fines.
Next year, the restrictions will be widened to include pre-2005 diesels. The clampdown will then continue in stages. Diesels are due to be outlawed altogether in 2024, and petrol cars in 2030.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/...
Don’t drive your classics through cities then - you can do Guildford to Le Mans without driving through a city? ;-)
Candellara said:
I bought one after lusting after a Ferrari since a child
Truly awful things. Slow, unreliable, high speed handling borders on dangerous, sticky plastics etc etc Even Luca di Montezemolo thought it was awful (after he was beaten away from the lights by a Golf GTI) - hence the 355 was quickly ushered into production.
Sorry, that's just plain bTruly awful things. Slow, unreliable, high speed handling borders on dangerous, sticky plastics etc etc Even Luca di Montezemolo thought it was awful (after he was beaten away from the lights by a Golf GTI) - hence the 355 was quickly ushered into production.
ks. 16v Golf GTis of this era had 150BHP and 0-60 of 8 seconds vs the 348's 300BHP 5 second 0-60. So either he can't drive for toffee or was just smack talking to drum up sales for the new model.
judas said:
Sorry, that's just plain bks. 16v Golf GTis of this era had 150BHP and 0-60 of 8 seconds vs the 348's 300BHP 5 second 0-60. So either he can't drive for toffee or was just smack talking to drum up sales for the new model.
Plenty of articles but yes it probably was a mass exaggeration. LDM describes it as "the worst car to have ever left the gates of Maranello"ks. 16v Golf GTis of this era had 150BHP and 0-60 of 8 seconds vs the 348's 300BHP 5 second 0-60. So either he can't drive for toffee or was just smack talking to drum up sales for the new model.Edited by Candellara on Saturday 27th October 15:26
PorkRind said:
Flashy, red, sounds nice. Gets wiped out by hot hatches.. I remember overtaking my mate in his 355 whilst i was in my EVO at the time, sure the evo has no panache but there are better ways to spend 45k surely?
I know what I'd rather floor, with the windows down, through a tunnel on my way to Italy...Candellara said:
I bought one after lusting after a Ferrari since a child
Truly awful things. Slow, unreliable, high speed handling borders on dangerous, sticky plastics etc etc Even Luca di Montezemolo thought it was awful (after he was beaten away from the lights by a Golf GTI) - hence the 355 was quickly ushered into production.
Wasn't it a strada abarth? Truly awful things. Slow, unreliable, high speed handling borders on dangerous, sticky plastics etc etc Even Luca di Montezemolo thought it was awful (after he was beaten away from the lights by a Golf GTI) - hence the 355 was quickly ushered into production.
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