RE: Cupra Ateca: Driven

[Dale487]

Sheepshanks said:

Dale487 said:

The Ateca & Macan have very similar cabin accommodation and boot size.

I thought Macan was basically an Audi Q5 - surely be quite a bit bigger than Ateca? Os is the space mostly taken up by fitting the engine lengthways?

Having looked at seriously buy an Ateca, but getting a Leon estate due to the 9 month waiting list plus saving £9k. Then having a good nosey at the Macan on more than one occasion. The boot is near enough 500 litres in each & the rear legroom in the Macan feels an inch tighter than my Leon (but that’s sat behind my driving position & I’m 6’2”).

The seats in the Porsche & bigger & plastic backed, which can’t help. And the boot in the Porsche is logger whilst the Ateca’s boot is tall.

[underphil]

Blanchimont said:

underphil said:

Blanchimont said:

underphil said:

the 280bhp Alfa Stelvio is probably the closest rival, costs a few grand more though and isn't quite as quick

It's about 10k more. But the Mrs is looking for other options than a stelvio, this may be it.

about £10K = £7K

The Milano Edizone which has the 280hp petrol is (super is 200hp) is £46k, 10 more.

..and the Speciale 280 is £43K, so £7K more

[SturdyHSV]

GranCab said:

nicholasm said:

Surely it's not a matter of opinion or style but a matter of fact. How does the manufacturer write it? https://www.seat.com/

Sorry, I'm not making this comments section any less pedantic!

Edited by nicholasm on Tuesday 30th October 15:39

Coz you have to write web addresses in lower case ?

Indeed, they aren't case sensitive, but I don't think that's what he meant, he was just providing a handy link to their website whereby they clearly have it as SEAT all over the place

[GranCab]

I'm old enough to remember when SEATs were just rebadged FIATs .....

[Lemming Train]

38.2 mpg in a 4x4 size & weight vehicle with a 300hp 2.0 turbo petrol engine?

Yeah righto....

Edited by Lemming Train on Tuesday 30th October 17:45

[225]

Shame they don't do a black badge pack or something to make it less like someone has used a home made badge kit from eBay.

On a positive note My wife 2.0tsi Ateca with a lowly 190bhp goes ok so if imagine this will be a laugh to drive. Add a tuning box and you are into sub 5 sec 0 to 60 and alot of in gear shove in a family suv!
They could have made more of an effort in the cabin as people have said, ours has all toys and is pleasant enough if a bit dull.

[IforB]

Lemming Train said:

38.2 mpg in a 4x4 size & weight vehicle with a 300hp 2.0 turbo petrol engine?

Yeah righto....

Edited by Lemming Train on Tuesday 30th October 17:45

I average 24.5mpg in my smaller and lighter car with the same engine, so I suspect you may be right!

[Hairymonster]

Dale487 said:

I’d like to know if there is any logical reading to buy a base Macan instead of one of these? (The only reason I can see is a Porsche badge)

There isn't.

[Leggy]

Of course VAG really need another brand!
Surely they are just competing against themselves somehow. It’s a parts bin product with no brand heritage.

[JB5]

Not wanting to get into a debate around which is the "better car", but the Ateca is in a different league when it comes to performance - 62 in 5.2 secs versus 6.7 secs (without sports chrono); 154mph flat out versus 139mpn. 280bhp Stelvio is much closer..

[BricktopST205]

Leon Cupra Estate better in every way apart from ride height?

[JackReacher]

JB5 said:

Not wanting to get into a debate around which is the "better car", but the Ateca is in a different league when it comes to performance - 62 in 5.2 secs versus 6.7 secs (without sports chrono); 154mph flat out versus 139mpn. 280bhp Stelvio is much closer..

There is also a 300bhp jaguar E pace, £10k more than the Ateca and performance mid way between the two. Awkward looking thing and the interior plastics probably worse than the Seat.

[Nik Gnashers]

So, to sum up then,
It's a brick with a hot engine, for disabled people with kids and stuff to carry to the tip.
I think it's shyte, but each to their own.

[Hairymonster]

Nik Gnashers said:

So, to sum up then,
It's a brick with a hot engine, for disabled people with kids and stuff to carry to the tip.
I think it's shyte, but each to their own.

Pretty much sums it up!

[Onehp]

Lemming Train said:

38.2 mpg in a 4x4 size & weight vehicle with a 300hp 2.0 turbo petrol engine?

Yeah righto....

Well for a 4x4 size car, this car is (and all the one sharing the platform are) relatively light. With the added point that the given kerb weight will actually include some equipment already... The competion mentioned will be 200-300kg heavier irl with some options, all with 4-pot engines....

And why criticize this car for the given mpg figure, it is the same for all modern cars? Point is when driven carefully you could get 38mpg (WLTP is a bit more realistic than before) which is good but that is hardly the point of this car.

For reference, on one very calm and long cross country drive (traffic), I once did 44mpg in our Leon ST Cupra (bit lighter and lower but running 375hp) ... Average is 32mpg incl cross country performance drives, take out those and day to day normal driving average (keeping limits +5 maybe, with the odd squirt in acceleration) is 35mpg... Figures average from brimming the tank over 30k miles.

[Onehp]

The Crack Fox said:

Leggy said:

It’s a parts bin product with no brand heritage.

Exactly this. And how good/bad the product is will be inevitably overshadowed by the utter bks that is SEAT marketing.

Driving such parts bin (aren't all cars?), they are the cheapest way to get the good bits, you don't pay much for the brand/marketing (check the real pricing, not list) countrary to other iterations, I'm perfectly fine with the interior and wouldn't want to pay more for a nicer one (I look out of the windows 98% of the time anyway) and personally I quite like the exterior styling. Oh, and the driving experience is probably the best setup in the whole group, too.

As for SEAT having no heritage? What is that? They certainly have history and quite a few CUPRA'S trough the years, even though they aren't very old/vintage.

If I sound like a fanboy, I'm not, I just buy whatever brand suits me best at a given time, this time round is was a SEAT - or should I say CUPRA? ° - and perfectly happy with it...


° I debadged mine and folks bit in the know always ask, it is a SEAT CUPRA? The gap between a regular SEAT and a CUPRA is quite large. Perhaps there the brand idea comes from, personally I couldn't care less what it is called....

Edited by Onehp on Wednesday 31st October 07:17

[anonymous-user]

"It's not a SEAT, its a Cupra"

Cringe.

[Lemming Train]

OpulentBob said:

"It's not a SEAT, its a Cupra"

Cringe.

Yep. It's like the people that say "it's not a Rover, it's an MG". Nope. It's a Rover 25 with some extra plastic bits bolted on.

[Jader1973]

Just one question about this:

What is the fking point?

[Kenny Powers]

That’s probably the blackest interior I’ve ever seen.