RE: Cupra Ateca: Driven

[JMF894]

underphil said:

donkmeister said:

I don't know where SEAT (I checked following the earlier pedantry, that's how SEAT writes it) sit in the VAG family now. Maybe not overseas but in the UK it used to be:
- Skoda were cheap for the thrifty/tight gits
- SEAT were cheap but a bit sportier than Skoda for people who wanted an Audi but couldn't afford it
- VW were conservative cars for vets, teachers, accountants
- Audi were the premium brand.

Now Skoda seems to be muscling in on SEATs market with the sporty styling even on the slower models, and of course they've done the VRS models for ages but these are up at similar performance levels as the SEAT-badged models.

This new sub-brand may well be intended to put SEAT back as the cheap sporty brand, but where is the main SEAT brand going?

Skoda is for old people, SEAT is for young people?

I've had two examples of each and I'm neither young or old.................................

[PhilboSE]

M1C said:

Lets remember, these Atecas aren't that big. In fact, i'd say they were a pretty smallish car. Aren't they a kinda...Tiguan size, if not a touch smaller?

Yup the platform is the VAG MQB so Audi Q3, VW Tiguan, SEAT Ateca and Skoda Karoq. They're not big cars, but do well on interior space considering their dimensions. The Tiguan is a nadge bigger than the Ateca, mostly given over to extra boot capacity.

[underphil]

JMF894 said:

underphil said:

donkmeister said:

I don't know where SEAT (I checked following the earlier pedantry, that's how SEAT writes it) sit in the VAG family now. Maybe not overseas but in the UK it used to be:
- Skoda were cheap for the thrifty/tight gits
- SEAT were cheap but a bit sportier than Skoda for people who wanted an Audi but couldn't afford it
- VW were conservative cars for vets, teachers, accountants
- Audi were the premium brand.

Now Skoda seems to be muscling in on SEATs market with the sporty styling even on the slower models, and of course they've done the VRS models for ages but these are up at similar performance levels as the SEAT-badged models.

This new sub-brand may well be intended to put SEAT back as the cheap sporty brand, but where is the main SEAT brand going?

Skoda is for old people, SEAT is for young people?

I've had two examples of each and I'm neither young or old.................................

there is a chance that your personal experience isn't widely representative of everyone

[underwhelmist]

BrightonEd said:

SEAT!
Not 'Seat'

It's an acronym - 'Sociedad Española de Automóviles de Turismo'

Do you have no sub-editors any more?

Yours, grammatically, etc..

IIRC Fiat and Audi are also acronyms but they’re not usually capitalised.

[Chestrockwell]

Onehp said:

Chestrockwell said:

How is this the same weight as an M2 Competition?

So you mean... The CUPRA is light and the M2 Comp is heavy? Both cars are bigger than one thinks for being a 'small' SUV and the smallest M car...

Well, this is a 4 wheel drive jacked up car made for comfort, I would have thought this would be a lot heavier

[Witchfinder]

It might just be me, but that badge looks like it belongs to a cheap brand of aftermarket boy-racer alloy wheels.

[Kenny Powers]

Witchfinder said:

It might just be me, but that badge looks like it belongs to a cheap brand of aftermarket boy-racer alloy wheels.

It’s not just you. I’m also not a fan of the logo/badge. Looks like some knockoff Chinese brand or something I’d not be surprised to see on an aftermarket alloy wheel in Halfords.

I’m not racist though. I have Chinese friends

[NAS]

underwhelmist said:

BrightonEd said:

SEAT!
Not 'Seat'

It's an acronym - 'Sociedad Española de Automóviles de Turismo'

Do you have no sub-editors any more?

Yours, grammatically, etc..

IIRC Fiat and Audi are also acronyms but they’re not usually capitalised.

They are by the manufacturers themselves. In the cases of SEAT & AUDI at least..

[Jim the Sunderer]

If you've got barbed wire tattoos and you don't want a Golf R shaped bullseye on your drive, then this is the car for you.

[donkmeister]

NAS said:

They are by the manufacturers themselves. In the cases of SEAT & AUDI at least..

Going to their respective websites, they call themselves SEAT and Audi... yes the second one surprised me as I thought it was Auto Union Deutsch... Something with an I.

[NAS]

Seems the brand is "Audi" and the company "AUDI AG". My mistake.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audi

"The company name is based on the Latin translation of the surname of the founder, August Horch. "Horch", meaning "listen" in German, becomes "audi" in Latin."

[Onehp]

NAS said:

Seems the brand is "Audi" and the company "AUDI AG". My mistake.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audi

"The company name is based on the Latin translation of the surname of the founder, August Horch. "Horch", meaning "listen" in German, becomes "audi" in Latin."

Didn't know that.
Adds to Volvo, meaning I'm rolling in latin and
Scania, which is latin for the swedish landscape in southern Sweden Skåne where (part of) the company originated.