RE: Ford Fiesta ST: PH Fleet
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I'm starting to really like these, with the size being a bit bigger than the old one they would indeed make a good all rounder, especially the 5 door. Great fuel economy too, 40 m.p.g. around town and nearly 60 m.p.g. at 70 m.p.h. on the motorway, the fuel economy of modern petrol engines is incredible, another nail in the coffin of the diesel.
Hi Ron, some perspective based upon my 4 years of ownership (a previously generation 1.6 ST2, which is standard bar the Mountune 215 upgrade).
Urban driving but enjoying some performance where responsible to do so. I see 36-38mpg over a 4 year average.
Sustained and smooth A Road driving combined with relaxed urban driving will yield low to mid 40’s MPG.
Cruising at 60-65 mph will see 51-53 mpg.. I can’t comment on sustained driving at 70mph because that’s a pipe dream in the South East!
Cadwell Park or Brands Hatch (dry) … 12.7mpg
Bedford (dry) can dip into high single figures MPG, which is worse than my GT3!
Urban driving but enjoying some performance where responsible to do so. I see 36-38mpg over a 4 year average.
Sustained and smooth A Road driving combined with relaxed urban driving will yield low to mid 40’s MPG.
Cruising at 60-65 mph will see 51-53 mpg.. I can’t comment on sustained driving at 70mph because that’s a pipe dream in the South East!
Cadwell Park or Brands Hatch (dry) … 12.7mpg
Bedford (dry) can dip into high single figures MPG, which is worse than my GT3!
996GT3_Matt said:
Hi Ron, some perspective based upon my 4 years of ownership (a previously generation 1.6 ST2, which is standard bar the Mountune 215 upgrade).
......Cruising at 60-65 mph will see 51-53 mpg.. I can’t comment on sustained driving at 70mph because that’s a pipe dream in the South East!
Low-50s mpg at low-60s mph is believable, especially with the potential for 5% speedo over-read and 10% trip computer exageration.......Cruising at 60-65 mph will see 51-53 mpg.. I can’t comment on sustained driving at 70mph because that’s a pipe dream in the South East!
In every car I've ever driven, mpg is considerably worse at 70mph than at 60mph.
My 1.6 Swift Sport gives about 50mpg at 60mph; similar kinds of numbers to your Fiesta ST. At 70mph it's about 40mpg.
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Low-50s mpg at low-60s mph is believable, especially with the potential for 5% speedo over-read and 10% trip computer exageration.
In every car I've ever driven, mpg is considerably worse at 70mph than at 60mph.
My 1.6 Swift Sport gives about 50mpg at 60mph; similar kinds of numbers to your Fiesta ST. At 70mph it's about 40mpg.
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I couldn’t agree more. The additional 10mph makes a huge difference to economy, even in taller geared/larger capacity petrol models.
That aside, it’s very impressive how frugal these modern engines can be when driven as so.
wab172uk said:
Ahbefive said:
With the diff for occasional track fun, this does seem to be a great all rounder.
I'd still like them to make a fiesta RS though.
^^^^^ ThisI'd still like them to make a fiesta RS though.
I'm seriously thinking of ordering a new Fiesta ST next year. I'm hanging on for both waiting times to come down, and the discounts to start rising.
But I'm also hanging on as I'm hoping Ford will announce they are going to build a Fiesta RS. Now that would be a fantastic car.
I’d like to try one of these new ones
Brainpox said:
I don't think a Fiesta RS would be as great as people think. Most of the appeal of the ST is that it's lightweight and handles well. Sticking a 150kg AWD system in it won't make it any better.
Why would it need to be awd? With 280bhp and more track focussed suspension and seats it would be a riot I'm sure.With awd weight added and some other weight removed it could also be excellent and perhaps only gaining the weight of a passenger.
Are you saying that cars are rubbish when they have a passenger or 2 on board? Also remember that an awd syatem adds weight below the cars usual cog rather than on top.
Brainpox said:
I don't think a Fiesta RS would be as great as people think. Most of the appeal of the ST is that it's lightweight and handles well. Sticking a 150kg AWD system in it won't make it any better.
Why would it need AWD? Slightly wider arches. Lower the ride height. Adjust the suspension to make it more focused. Stick a pair of Recaro seat in as standard. Tart up the inside to make it a bit more exclusive. Then give it 250-260BHP.Sorted.
wab172uk said:
Brainpox said:
I don't think a Fiesta RS would be as great as people think. Most of the appeal of the ST is that it's lightweight and handles well. Sticking a 150kg AWD system in it won't make it any better.
Why would it need AWD? Slightly wider arches. Lower the ride height. Adjust the suspension to make it more focused. Stick a pair of Recaro seat in as standard. Tart up the inside to make it a bit more exclusive. Then give it 250-260BHP.Sorted.
On a related topic; TG Magazine commenter that the Fiesta’s Seats are tight.
Fiesta ST seats have always been narrow. In response to a poster above, apart from seat back adjustment, pumping the height adjusters also seems to tip the seat forward more.
MPG on my 13 ST was an average of about 38, on my 15 ST215 Mountune, about 40 but putting the instant mpg on display, you can minimize your consumption.
Personally, I find maintaining 70 is more economical than 60 as hills slow the car and it takes more fuel to get back up to speed.
There again I can get over 30 mpg from my 460hp Mustang.
MPG on my 13 ST was an average of about 38, on my 15 ST215 Mountune, about 40 but putting the instant mpg on display, you can minimize your consumption.
Personally, I find maintaining 70 is more economical than 60 as hills slow the car and it takes more fuel to get back up to speed.
There again I can get over 30 mpg from my 460hp Mustang.
Edited by LuS1fer on Saturday 10th November 13:43
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