RE: Ford Fiesta ST: PH Fleet

RE: Ford Fiesta ST: PH Fleet

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MarkH1987

18 posts

65 months

Friday 9th November 2018
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I'm starting to really like these, with the size being a bit bigger than the old one they would indeed make a good all rounder, especially the 5 door. Great fuel economy too, 40 m.p.g. around town and nearly 60 m.p.g. at 70 m.p.h. on the motorway, the fuel economy of modern petrol engines is incredible, another nail in the coffin of the diesel.

Rufus66

10 posts

172 months

Friday 9th November 2018
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I have bought one of these to use in Spain, being lucky enough to own some very special Italian and German Cars, without a doubt the Fiesta is easily the most fun.

Ron99

1,985 posts

81 months

Friday 9th November 2018
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57mpg at 70mph?

I call BS that it's consistently achievable.

Maybe achievable as a one-off on a medium journey with a favourable tailwind, gradient and mild weather.

Otherwise I'll bet three-quarters that is closer the true average, if speed and mpg are measured correctly.

996GT3_Matt

200 posts

204 months

Friday 9th November 2018
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Hi Ron, some perspective based upon my 4 years of ownership (a previously generation 1.6 ST2, which is standard bar the Mountune 215 upgrade).

Urban driving but enjoying some performance where responsible to do so. I see 36-38mpg over a 4 year average.

Sustained and smooth A Road driving combined with relaxed urban driving will yield low to mid 40’s MPG.

Cruising at 60-65 mph will see 51-53 mpg.. I can’t comment on sustained driving at 70mph because that’s a pipe dream in the South East!

Cadwell Park or Brands Hatch (dry) … 12.7mpg

Bedford (dry) can dip into high single figures MPG, which is worse than my GT3!

Ron99

1,985 posts

81 months

Friday 9th November 2018
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996GT3_Matt said:
Hi Ron, some perspective based upon my 4 years of ownership (a previously generation 1.6 ST2, which is standard bar the Mountune 215 upgrade).
......Cruising at 60-65 mph will see 51-53 mpg.. I can’t comment on sustained driving at 70mph because that’s a pipe dream in the South East!
Low-50s mpg at low-60s mph is believable, especially with the potential for 5% speedo over-read and 10% trip computer exageration.
In every car I've ever driven, mpg is considerably worse at 70mph than at 60mph.

My 1.6 Swift Sport gives about 50mpg at 60mph; similar kinds of numbers to your Fiesta ST. At 70mph it's about 40mpg.

996GT3_Matt

200 posts

204 months

Friday 9th November 2018
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Low-50s mpg at low-60s mph is believable, especially with the potential for 5% speedo over-read and 10% trip computer exageration.
In every car I've ever driven, mpg is considerably worse at 70mph than at 60mph.

My 1.6 Swift Sport gives about 50mpg at 60mph; similar kinds of numbers to your Fiesta ST. At 70mph it's about 40mpg.
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I couldn’t agree more. The additional 10mph makes a huge difference to economy, even in taller geared/larger capacity petrol models.

That aside, it’s very impressive how frugal these modern engines can be when driven as so.

VeeFource

1,076 posts

177 months

Friday 9th November 2018
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I just hope they turn out to be more reliable than the rest of the recent Ecoboost engines. If it does it will be a tough choice between one of these and a (more rust prone) MX5 at some point in the future.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 9th November 2018
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I can see myself looking very closely at these in future, especially if they get the same Mountune treatment as the previous generation car.

Something relatively cheap that’s a lot of fun at sane road speeds with all the modern tech, safety kit and warranty is very appealing.

blade7

11,311 posts

216 months

Friday 9th November 2018
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]I can see myself looking very closely at these in future, especially if they get the same Mountune treatment as the previous generation car.


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Unlikely.

LuS1fer

41,135 posts

245 months

Friday 9th November 2018
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Ford lost me on the styling and it is not proving a grower.
Then you lost me on stop/start.

I'm sure the contents are the finest sparkling champagne but, to look at, it's a bottle of White Lightning.

nickfrog

21,149 posts

217 months

Saturday 10th November 2018
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S/S is totally seamless so I don't see the detriment. Styling is quite subjective and while I accept it's important for some, it seems like the driving and ownership experience are both brilliant.
Do all Fiesta ST get the mech diff as std ?

s m

23,223 posts

203 months

Saturday 10th November 2018
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wab172uk said:
Ahbefive said:
With the diff for occasional track fun, this does seem to be a great all rounder.

I'd still like them to make a fiesta RS though.
^^^^^ This

I'm seriously thinking of ordering a new Fiesta ST next year. I'm hanging on for both waiting times to come down, and the discounts to start rising.

But I'm also hanging on as I'm hoping Ford will announce they are going to build a Fiesta RS. Now that would be a fantastic car.
Like a modern day Escort S1 RS Turbo with the diff and turbo power

I’d like to try one of these new ones

Brainpox

4,055 posts

151 months

Saturday 10th November 2018
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I don't think a Fiesta RS would be as great as people think. Most of the appeal of the ST is that it's lightweight and handles well. Sticking a 150kg AWD system in it won't make it any better.

Ahbefive

11,657 posts

172 months

Saturday 10th November 2018
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Brainpox said:
I don't think a Fiesta RS would be as great as people think. Most of the appeal of the ST is that it's lightweight and handles well. Sticking a 150kg AWD system in it won't make it any better.
Why would it need to be awd? With 280bhp and more track focussed suspension and seats it would be a riot I'm sure.

With awd weight added and some other weight removed it could also be excellent and perhaps only gaining the weight of a passenger.

Are you saying that cars are rubbish when they have a passenger or 2 on board? Also remember that an awd syatem adds weight below the cars usual cog rather than on top.

wab172uk

2,005 posts

227 months

Saturday 10th November 2018
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Brainpox said:
I don't think a Fiesta RS would be as great as people think. Most of the appeal of the ST is that it's lightweight and handles well. Sticking a 150kg AWD system in it won't make it any better.
Why would it need AWD? Slightly wider arches. Lower the ride height. Adjust the suspension to make it more focused. Stick a pair of Recaro seat in as standard. Tart up the inside to make it a bit more exclusive. Then give it 250-260BHP.

Sorted.

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 10th November 2018
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nickfrog said:
Do all Fiesta ST get the mech diff as std ?
It’s part of the £925 performance pack. Quaife diff, launch control and shift lights. None of them have it as standard.

Ahbefive

11,657 posts

172 months

Saturday 10th November 2018
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charltjr said:
nickfrog said:
Do all Fiesta ST get the mech diff as std ?
It’s part of the £925 performance pack. Quaife diff, launch control and shift lights. None of them have it as standard.
You would have thought it would be a no brainer but I bet most are specced without.

Dale487

1,334 posts

123 months

Saturday 10th November 2018
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wab172uk said:
Brainpox said:
I don't think a Fiesta RS would be as great as people think. Most of the appeal of the ST is that it's lightweight and handles well. Sticking a 150kg AWD system in it won't make it any better.
Why would it need AWD? Slightly wider arches. Lower the ride height. Adjust the suspension to make it more focused. Stick a pair of Recaro seat in as standard. Tart up the inside to make it a bit more exclusive. Then give it 250-260BHP.

Sorted.
Recaro Seats - depends if Ford amount them too high like the Focus RS (unacceptable in any car let alone a £30k+ car).

On a related topic; TG Magazine commenter that the Fiesta’s Seats are tight.

LuS1fer

41,135 posts

245 months

Saturday 10th November 2018
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Fiesta ST seats have always been narrow. In response to a poster above, apart from seat back adjustment, pumping the height adjusters also seems to tip the seat forward more.
MPG on my 13 ST was an average of about 38, on my 15 ST215 Mountune, about 40 but putting the instant mpg on display, you can minimize your consumption.

Personally, I find maintaining 70 is more economical than 60 as hills slow the car and it takes more fuel to get back up to speed.

There again I can get over 30 mpg from my 460hp Mustang.

Edited by LuS1fer on Saturday 10th November 13:43

Rewind303

1 posts

65 months

Saturday 10th November 2018
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Likewise, I just moved from a 330d auto (my second in a row) to an ST. Far more fun than the BMW, loving it.