Cyclists without lights - something needs to be done

[will_]

cb1965 said:

will_ said:

Something needs to be done about an unspecified number of road users not obeying the highway code which has an unspecified negative impact. That's genius for you. See also "they all run red lights."

Next week - cyclists should pay "road tax".

More trivialisation and I have never ever said anything about cyclists and road tax.... you lot do like to create a lot of baseless conjecture about what I'm supposed to have said/supported... suits your agendas I guess.

How can I trivialise something when you fail to explain how significant the issue you complain about is?

You're saying that cyclists without lights is a problem that must be solved. How big a problem is it, in terms of volume and impact? You don't say. It is only worth considering what can be done to solve a problem if it is indeed a problem in the first place. Start there.

When did I say that you ever said anything about cyclists and road tax? it's just another issue that your mob like to post about with boring regularity.

It could, of course, be anything from the bingo card of the mouth breathing moron rabid cyclist haters on here. Tax/insurance/helmets/numberplates/redlights blah blah blah.

[anonymous-user]

Troll, liar, mentally ill and stupid. What a lovely bunch you PH cyclists are

The real question is why you all get so defensive of things you claim never to do, but the answer to that is obvious of course.

[will_]

cb1965 said:

I do, however, think that, in London at least, there is a higher percentage of cyclists that do stupid things than drivers, but the reasons for that are obvious!

I've asked this before, and you flounced/avoided then, but I'll ask again to give you an opportunity to explain yourself; why does the percentage matter?

[WinstonWolf]

cb1965 said:

Troll, liar, mentally ill and stupid. What a lovely bunch you PH cyclists are

The real question is why you all get so defensive of things you claim never to do, but the answer to that is obvious of course.

Hey, we're just saying it as it is...

[will_]

cb1965 said:

Troll, liar, mentally ill and stupid. What a lovely bunch you PH cyclists are

The real question is why you all get so defensive of things you claim never to do, but the answer to that is obvious of course.

Who is defending what?

[anonymous-user]

will_ said:

cb1965 said:

I do, however, think that, in London at least, there is a higher percentage of cyclists that do stupid things than drivers, but the reasons for that are obvious!

I've asked this before, and you flounced/avoided then, but I'll ask again to give you an opportunity to explain yourself; why does the percentage matter?

Implying I’m a mouth breathing moron and then wanting a sensible reply. I don’t think so.

[anonymous-user]

WinstonWolf said:

cb1965 said:

Troll, liar, mentally ill and stupid. What a lovely bunch you PH cyclists are

The real question is why you all get so defensive of things you claim never to do, but the answer to that is obvious of course.

Hey, we're just saying it as it is...

Yep and if I did the same to you you’d go running off to the mods again.

[WinstonWolf]

cb1965 said:

WinstonWolf said:

cb1965 said:

Troll, liar, mentally ill and stupid. What a lovely bunch you PH cyclists are

The real question is why you all get so defensive of things you claim never to do, but the answer to that is obvious of course.

Hey, we're just saying it as it is...

Yep and if I did the same to you you’d go running off to the mods again.

I've never run off to the mods, I just call you a to your face x

[Your Dad]

I've highlighted the floors in your opening post but you still have to have the last word and are still avoiding answering direct questions.

Obvious troll is obvious.

[Killboy]

[Your Dad]

Killboy said:

Children are only 10.7% of the statistic so it's the adults that you need to think of, especially those driving the motor vehicles that are involved in the collisions with cyclists in daylight hours.

Using ROSPA stats from 2016 to quote facts, not theories!


Edit - correct the percentage down from 12% to 10.7%

Edited by Your Dad on Thursday 15th November 09:26

[Ares]

cb1965 said:

Troll, liar, mentally ill and stupid. What a lovely bunch you PH cyclists are

The real question is why you all get so defensive of things you claim never to do, but the answer to that is obvious of course.

Where have you been called mentally ill and stupid?

The others are obvious

[Ares]

will_ said:

cb1965 said:

I do, however, think that, in London at least, there is a higher percentage of cyclists that do stupid things than drivers, but the reasons for that are obvious!

I've asked this before, and you flounced/avoided then, but I'll ask again to give you an opportunity to explain yourself; why does the percentage matter?

...and it depends on what you consider stupid? Driving past a school at 31mph? Our local rag did a check and over 90% of cars were travelling at 31 or over going past a primary school on Altrincham Road (Gorsey Bank if anyone knows it)

[Killboy]

Ares said:

cb1965 said:

Troll, liar, mentally ill and stupid. What a lovely bunch you PH cyclists are

The real question is why you all get so defensive of things you claim never to do, but the answer to that is obvious of course.

Where have you been called mentally ill and stupid?

The others are obvious

I've suggested he is either a troll, or may need some counselling as this infatuation is not normal.

[anonymous-user]

Ares said:

cb1965 said:

Troll, liar, mentally ill and stupid. What a lovely bunch you PH cyclists are

The real question is why you all get so defensive of things you claim never to do, but the answer to that is obvious of course.

Where have you been called mentally ill and stupid?

The others are obvious

All in the thread and by your pals if you can be bothered. Pathetic really!

[Ares]

cb1965 said:

Ares said:

cb1965 said:

Troll, liar, mentally ill and stupid. What a lovely bunch you PH cyclists are

The real question is why you all get so defensive of things you claim never to do, but the answer to that is obvious of course.

Where have you been called mentally ill and stupid?

The others are obvious

All in the thread and by your pals if you can be bothered. Pathetic really!

Show us where then? (or prove the first two points being truer. Again).

[anonymous-user]

Ares said:

cb1965 said:

Ares said:

cb1965 said:

Troll, liar, mentally ill and stupid. What a lovely bunch you PH cyclists are

The real question is why you all get so defensive of things you claim never to do, but the answer to that is obvious of course.

Where have you been called mentally ill and stupid?

The others are obvious

All in the thread and by your pals if you can be bothered. Pathetic really!

Show us where then? (or prove the first two points being truer. Again).

Not sure why you can't read the thread yourself, but here is an example from your pal nickfrog

nickfrog said:

No point engaging with the OP as he is just an attention seeking agent provocateur with a persecution complex and other mental illnesses. Very Trump actually.

[Fastchas]

I almost took out a cyclist on a roundabout last year. It was dark, around 11pm and I'd been driving from Devon to the midlands. Hellish journey and just wanted to get home but had to follow a diversion. Approached the large roundabout, saw no traffic coming so didn't brake. Then noticed a cyclist at the last second and stamped on the brakes just as he nearly hit my off-side wing. I was doing 30-40mph so not slow.
I aoplogised profusively to the cyclist, saying I never saw him and asked where his lights were. He pointed the LED's front and rear but coming from the side he was invisible to me.
I also pointed out his black top, shorts and black rucksack, saying he's not helping himself. I think he may have bought some lighter coloured cycling attire after that night!

[limpsfield]

Holy crap, this thread is terrible.

[theoriginalpaul]

I passed a lady on a bike last might - no lights visible as I approached and black clothing.

As I passed her I noticed she did indeed have both white and red flashing LEDs, but for some unfathomable reason she'd chosen to mount them both facing forward on the handlebars.

As a cyclist and driver, I have no words for this kind of stupidity....