RE: BBC confirms live Formula E coverage
Discussion
Are these still standardised cars?
To me this should be the cutting edge of EV tech with the big boys spending big money to test and prove the technology. With basically no rules except they have to go the distance and be full EV. Let the manufactures play around with battery sizes and charging speeds they would soon figure out what works best.
I might be wrong but didn’t the last cars not go as far as a Tesla p90d or as fast in a straight line?
To me this should be the cutting edge of EV tech with the big boys spending big money to test and prove the technology. With basically no rules except they have to go the distance and be full EV. Let the manufactures play around with battery sizes and charging speeds they would soon figure out what works best.
I might be wrong but didn’t the last cars not go as far as a Tesla p90d or as fast in a straight line?
Well, most major car manufacturers are getting into Formula E, even dropping their involvement in WEC and the DTM. They have removed the car swapping issue as the cars can run a full race on one charge and I guess the technology (power and speed potential) will grow and grow as manufacturers use the technology to trickle into road vehicles. The series also has this unmanned driver race series as part of whole event soon.
Will be interesting to see it grow over the next decade and it will grow, they have the money and government go green policies to back them... will still sound pants tough, then again F1 cars have sounded rubbish for the past couple of years too.
It's the future, like it or not, even Moto GP will have an 'e' series soon, they were trialling the bikes at the races this year, though I guess they will be running on full GP tracks, just a reduced number of laps.
When the GT and Touring cars also get replaced too, that will be a sad day.
Will be interesting to see it grow over the next decade and it will grow, they have the money and government go green policies to back them... will still sound pants tough, then again F1 cars have sounded rubbish for the past couple of years too.
It's the future, like it or not, even Moto GP will have an 'e' series soon, they were trialling the bikes at the races this year, though I guess they will be running on full GP tracks, just a reduced number of laps.
When the GT and Touring cars also get replaced too, that will be a sad day.
ReaperCushions said:
The Birmingham Super Prix was the highlight of my childhood.. I'd love to see them race around there again.
Edit:
https://youtu.be/hamaRwRuhyM?t=114
The Monaco of the Midlands!
Now THAT is what I call Motorsport! Watching proper, brawny, cars being wrestled around a circuit in close battle!Edit:
https://youtu.be/hamaRwRuhyM?t=114
The Monaco of the Midlands!
Edited by ReaperCushions on Tuesday 13th November 18:15
I've tried to watch/like Formula E but it's utter drivel. Maybe the new cars will improve part of it but the tracks are monotonous. If they could at least use one or two proper race tracks it might garner more interest. I don't know if they still use 'Fan Boost' but that has to be the biggest load of s
te in motorsport. Ever.
I'll give it a go but it has a long way to go as far as entertainment goes. I'm far more likely to watch BTCC, IMSA, WEC, Indy, WRC than Formula-E but it appears they're going to continue trying to tweak it and it's not tweaks it needs, it simply it was started before the battery tech and cars were ready to make it a viable motorsport format.
te in motorsport. Ever.I'll give it a go but it has a long way to go as far as entertainment goes. I'm far more likely to watch BTCC, IMSA, WEC, Indy, WRC than Formula-E but it appears they're going to continue trying to tweak it and it's not tweaks it needs, it simply it was started before the battery tech and cars were ready to make it a viable motorsport format.
ggdrew said:
Oh dear... the poor old BBC were flanneled into thinking they were buying something fabulous for peanuts.
Some-one should cunningly capitalise on the presence of these "I'll try anything for free' (fair to play to them) 'motorsport spectators' and blitz the track in the interval with an V10 F1 car and a Lola T70 .... bear with me ... and they'd be like ".. no fking way!!! - some Patagonian waistcoat-wearing can't (and a bunch of cheapskate manufacturers) told me these milk-floats were in-actual-fact motorsport!" "Where do I sign up to watch THIS fabulous devastatingly aggressive sounding awesomeness - take my money NOW!!"
If only these newbies could be shown the light
I was told the cars were almost silent but these cars are so noisy, if they try to hold this event in the city centre again I will vehemently object to it!Some-one should cunningly capitalise on the presence of these "I'll try anything for free' (fair to play to them) 'motorsport spectators' and blitz the track in the interval with an V10 F1 car and a Lola T70 .... bear with me ... and they'd be like ".. no f
king way!!! - some Patagonian waistcoat-wearing can't (and a bunch of cheapskate manufacturers) told me these milk-floats were in-actual-fact motorsport!" "Where do I sign up to watch THIS fabulous devastatingly aggressive sounding awesomeness - take my money NOW!!"If only these newbies could be shown the light
Edited by ggdrew on Tuesday 13th November 17:40
The whole point in the city centre races is because they aren't noisy like the 'real' thing.
I've been to 3 F1 GP's , the first two were v8 NA engines, you could hear them as you were approaching Silverstone for morning practice. The last one had was the first year of the current formula, you could barely hear them approaching whilst sitting in the stands, in fact they were almost silent more tyre rumble. Yes they have now tinkered with the exhaust to make them sound louder, but why that should affect you while watching on TV I don't know, MotoGP bikes sound st on tv.
As for the poster saying why have lectric racing while trying to save the planet. Well why have motorsport? If anything, motorsport was the first step into taking an interest in engineering, when I studied it at uni, I was a F1 man, but most of my fellow students were into Group C racing ,big time. Tomorrows engineers may well be inspired by something that interests them like this.
t on tv.As for the poster saying why have lectric racing while trying to save the planet. Well why have motorsport? If anything, motorsport was the first step into taking an interest in engineering, when I studied it at uni, I was a F1 man, but most of my fellow students were into Group C racing ,big time. Tomorrows engineers may well be inspired by something that interests them like this.
SamR380 said:
Why don't they race on proper race tracks? Street circuits have the double failing of being dangerous and boring.
IMO I think some of it is to do with the illusion of speed. On a tight, narrow street circuit they can look quite nippy and they can use the good acceleration out of all the tight corners.Theyd look absolutely hopeless round somewhere like Silverstone or Spa. Wider, more open circuits with long straights. They'd just look too slow, especially on TV...that's why they also employ a lot of low angle/low to ground shots.
ntiz said:
Are these still standardised cars?
To me this should be the cutting edge of EV tech with the big boys spending big money to test and prove the technology. With basically no rules except they have to go the distance and be full EV. Let the manufactures play around with battery sizes and charging speeds they would soon figure out what works best.
I might be wrong but didn’t the last cars not go as far as a Tesla p90d or as fast in a straight line?
They are gradually moving away from spec cars. At the start the chassis were all the same and I believe Williams Engineering did the battery packs and things. With each season, they've opened the car build up so now teams have custom designed motors, some use gearboxes, some don't. It'll get to custom electronics and controllers etc etc.To me this should be the cutting edge of EV tech with the big boys spending big money to test and prove the technology. With basically no rules except they have to go the distance and be full EV. Let the manufactures play around with battery sizes and charging speeds they would soon figure out what works best.
I might be wrong but didn’t the last cars not go as far as a Tesla p90d or as fast in a straight line?
I think they've been quite canny in approaching it that way. It's enabled the series to get started with a low cost of entry and then as it's built interest and popularity, they're opening it up to the point big OEMs might want to get involved to develop their technology.
Not sure how long it will take but I believe they will get to the point where they are as a fast as what we have now. I believe this coming season they have already been able to do away with needing a mid race car swap. The battery packs can do the whole race on one charge.
The Crack Fox said:
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ReaperCushions said:
The Birmingham Super Prix was the highlight of my childhood.. I'd love to see them race around there again.
Edit:
https://youtu.be/hamaRwRuhyM?t=114
The Monaco of the Midlands!
Now THAT is what I call Motorsport! Watching proper, brawny, cars being wrestled around a circuit in close battle!Edit:
https://youtu.be/hamaRwRuhyM?t=114
The Monaco of the Midlands!
Edited by ReaperCushions on Tuesday 13th November 18:15
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