RE: Range Rover V8 Supercharged: Spotted
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Highly worth a wander over to YouTube to watch Doug DeMuro's well documented time with his Range Rover. He goes through all of the costs over I think about the last 5 years, and they are significant (although covered by a warranty)
Sums it up that although the warranty had now ended, he's still keeping the car as he looks ves it so much (don't think it's a supercharged one either).
Sums it up that although the warranty had now ended, he's still keeping the car as he looks ves it so much (don't think it's a supercharged one either).
clived said:
Equus, I can't find a TDV8 at half this price and those that are close to that have over twice the mileage. Where are you seeing them?
I own one... I'm going on the current trade-in/auction value of mine, so the answer is at auction.You be needing a couple of these, though:
In fairness, mine has been very reliable indeed, and not the slightest sign of corrosion, despite living literally within sight of the sea.
I've got one of these and I absolutely adore it. Bought 2.5yrs ago with 70k miles for £17k from a small independent LR specialist, Black with Ivory & Piano black interior. It drives like a dream, smooth, powerful and like riding a magic carpet, a perfect foil for my 911 C4S and the local speed bumps littered throughout my neighborhood. These are however not cheap cars to run, £5k servicing and maintenance and an average of 16mpg (mostly local roads & short trips), but whilst not cheap I'd argue that it's good value when compared to anything else with the same combined buying & running costs. Watch out for the 10yr service, there service items that I've never heard of or knew existed, no I wasn't fleeced, but I was new to luxury 4x4s at the time.
It looks equally at home outside the Ritz as it does filthy dirty next to a Scottish Loch and doing the daily nursery run (it's done all). The car makes a statement without shouting, which is refreshing in a world of SVR Range Rovers, G Wagens, Bentaygas, etc. I have a young family and we never fly on holiday if it's within a days driving, why bother travelling budget airline with a pathetic baggage allowance when you can drive in first class comfort, stop at your own will and also have this luxury for getting around at your chosen destination. We drove up to NW Scotland for a weekend a while ago, the 24hrs+ of driving was shared equally between me and my pregnant wife and neither of us complained about any aches or pains.
Whilst the article describes it as an SUV, i don't like that word and it definitely isn't. It's quick for it's size with huge amounts of power and grip, which can lull you into a false sense of security until you reach the next corner and learn what bodyroll is!
However your missing the point of this car if that's an issue for you, buy a Cayenne, RR Sport, X5 etc instead.
Buy one - but take the time to make sure it's a good one. Do your homework or pay someone to inspect it for you. Get a bad one and it could be ruinous.
It looks equally at home outside the Ritz as it does filthy dirty next to a Scottish Loch and doing the daily nursery run (it's done all). The car makes a statement without shouting, which is refreshing in a world of SVR Range Rovers, G Wagens, Bentaygas, etc. I have a young family and we never fly on holiday if it's within a days driving, why bother travelling budget airline with a pathetic baggage allowance when you can drive in first class comfort, stop at your own will and also have this luxury for getting around at your chosen destination. We drove up to NW Scotland for a weekend a while ago, the 24hrs+ of driving was shared equally between me and my pregnant wife and neither of us complained about any aches or pains.
Whilst the article describes it as an SUV, i don't like that word and it definitely isn't. It's quick for it's size with huge amounts of power and grip, which can lull you into a false sense of security until you reach the next corner and learn what bodyroll is!
However your missing the point of this car if that's an issue for you, buy a Cayenne, RR Sport, X5 etc instead.Buy one - but take the time to make sure it's a good one. Do your homework or pay someone to inspect it for you. Get a bad one and it could be ruinous.
My parents still have their old 2006 S/C, they bought a new L405 S/C a couple of years ago but the old car was worth so little and is such a lovely car they decided to keep it, in fact we even got some of the digs and wear and tear sorted on it and it looks fantastic.
It’s on 120,000 Miles and the only two issues I can remember over it’s entire life were a dud EAS control unit when it was still under warranty and the charge cooler pump a few years ago at about 90k
It’s a great car, I prefer the 405 on a long run but rolling around locally the old car rides better and I actually actively prefer it.
It’s on 120,000 Miles and the only two issues I can remember over it’s entire life were a dud EAS control unit when it was still under warranty and the charge cooler pump a few years ago at about 90k
It’s a great car, I prefer the 405 on a long run but rolling around locally the old car rides better and I actually actively prefer it.
Bazza79 said:
...which can lull you into a false sense of security until you reach the next corner and learn what bodyroll is!
It handles like a sports car compared to the old P38, mind you (although they've ruined the ride quality by stiffening it up, in the process - the P38 was truly a magic carpet ride, but handled like a supertanker).Dale487 said:
ruprechtmonkeyboy said:
It's funny reading the posts on this as it seems to fall into two camps.
1. Posters that actually own a Supercharged Range Rover from this period and appear very happy with their car.
2. Posters that haven't owned one but are convinced it's a horrific money pit and rust bucket based on their 'friend' or similar owning one.
Interesting.
Aren't all cars that start at this kind of price point, with the related level of complexity similar potential money pits? Its down to the owner's mind set (things wear out with age and you expect to replace them - doesn't make a car unreliable, just needs maintainence that a new car doesn't) \ lack of care or maintenance \ previous owner selling "at the right time". 1. Posters that actually own a Supercharged Range Rover from this period and appear very happy with their car.
2. Posters that haven't owned one but are convinced it's a horrific money pit and rust bucket based on their 'friend' or similar owning one.
Interesting.
I've never owned a car at this level but any car I've owned, the lower depreciation as it gets older is off set by the increased potential for a big bill - try & run one like a nearly new Fiesta and you'll have a world of problems.
I'm with Donkey Apple on this one; i.e. you need to sort the good ones from the bad, otherwise you are in for a world of pain. Best way to do that is buy from an enthusiast on the FFRR forum. There are some cars out there which have been wonderfully well looked after, and that is the key to happy FFRR ownership. That, and a capable local independent specialist.
I've got one, bought it five years ago, it's a 2006.
Nothing has gone wrong, I've changed the oil every year and the pads and discs etc.
We've looked at replacing it, but it's just got an oddly enjoyable character that I'll keep it until it falls to bits.
If you get one, service it, change the gearbox and diff oils and treat it nicely.
I've been everywhere man, in mine from southern to northern Europe and punctures apart, its never missed a beat.
Nothing has gone wrong, I've changed the oil every year and the pads and discs etc.
We've looked at replacing it, but it's just got an oddly enjoyable character that I'll keep it until it falls to bits.
If you get one, service it, change the gearbox and diff oils and treat it nicely.
I've been everywhere man, in mine from southern to northern Europe and punctures apart, its never missed a beat.
Equus said:
You can get an equally well-specified and only marginally slower TDV8 (8.6 seconds 0-60 instead of 7.1), a year or two newer than that, for half the price, and offering pretty much half the fuel consumption.
The 2008 era TDV6 engine is a potential time bomb - many reports of engine failures (bottom end bearing failure in my case, a couple of weeks out of warranty. That was expensive).No one should tolerate such an unreliable vehicle such as these, Land rover designed this car for wealthy people only, It mattered not if it was reliable because it looked good and it had a warranty. You can not run these on a budget nor should you bother, land rover did not build them for common folk or to last the test of time, japan already does this very well,that is why they so are cheap..
We've got a 2007 4.4. Not as popular or as common as the supercharged but when we bought it the 4.2 was out of budget.
FLRSH, all the options and now on 150,000 miles. Only issues have been a weak battery which throws up odd warnings about traction modes and some rust on the tailgate.
Not a car I thought i'd like as much as I do, it's great. It makes everything effortless.
FLRSH, all the options and now on 150,000 miles. Only issues have been a weak battery which throws up odd warnings about traction modes and some rust on the tailgate.
Not a car I thought i'd like as much as I do, it's great. It makes everything effortless.
AppleJuice said:
I hope not. 8.5 mpg?
I said half the fuel consumption, not half the fuel economy or half the MPG.That means it consumes half as much fuel.
48k said:
The 2008 era TDV6 engine is a potential time bomb - many reports of engine failures (bottom end bearing failure in my case, a couple of weeks out of warranty. That was expensive).
There ain't no such animal. The full fat Range Rover L322 was never fitted with a TDV6.You must be speaking of the Range Rover Sport, which is a completely different vehicle.
I had a P38, then a 2006 TDV8 and now a 2010 5.0 S/C.
I moved the TDV8 on after replacing both turbos and EGRs. It had well over 110k miles on it and was still a lovely car to drive averaging 25mpg. Main reason for selling was that the turbo lag was starting to grate after 2 years and 5.0 S/C variants had come down to what I was prepared to pay.
So I bought the 5.0 S/C and have had it for about 2.5 years now. Averages about 18mpg, generally driven pretty sensibly but when you do plant the pedal it shifts!
Until earlier this year I would have said it was almost faultless, but the transfer box let go one afternoon back in June leading to a big bill to get everything sorted, a nearly £4k bill as the gearbox also needed rebuilding to replace the driveshaft. Other than this incident the only issues I've had were 1 water pump (£100, specifically known to be an issue on the 5.0 V8s) and a broken wire on the suspension strut top (again a fairly standard issue, 10 minutes with a soldering iron to fix). The car has now passed 100K miles and other than above hasn't had anything other than services and brake discs/pads since I bought it.
I don't quite recognise the issues about corrosion that were so heavily stressed earlier, the L322 are known to rust around the rear door/wheel arch area because of the door seal trapping s
te and water, but I've never seen it anywhere else, maybe I've just been lucky but it's not something I've heard being specifically mentioned before on the owners forums, etc...
Would I buy another? Absolutely. But, you need to understand the car has the potential for a big bill occasionally (see above). I'm lucky that I have a very good LR specialist within 1 mile of home. They know their stuff and know that these big repair costs need to be sensible, I wouldn't even dream about using a LR dealership for anything I had to pay for. I'm not sure I'd run one without a sufficient repair reserve fund available in case that big bill does come along.
I moved the TDV8 on after replacing both turbos and EGRs. It had well over 110k miles on it and was still a lovely car to drive averaging 25mpg. Main reason for selling was that the turbo lag was starting to grate after 2 years and 5.0 S/C variants had come down to what I was prepared to pay.
So I bought the 5.0 S/C and have had it for about 2.5 years now. Averages about 18mpg, generally driven pretty sensibly but when you do plant the pedal it shifts!
Until earlier this year I would have said it was almost faultless, but the transfer box let go one afternoon back in June leading to a big bill to get everything sorted, a nearly £4k bill as the gearbox also needed rebuilding to replace the driveshaft. Other than this incident the only issues I've had were 1 water pump (£100, specifically known to be an issue on the 5.0 V8s) and a broken wire on the suspension strut top (again a fairly standard issue, 10 minutes with a soldering iron to fix). The car has now passed 100K miles and other than above hasn't had anything other than services and brake discs/pads since I bought it.I don't quite recognise the issues about corrosion that were so heavily stressed earlier, the L322 are known to rust around the rear door/wheel arch area because of the door seal trapping s
te and water, but I've never seen it anywhere else, maybe I've just been lucky but it's not something I've heard being specifically mentioned before on the owners forums, etc...Would I buy another? Absolutely. But, you need to understand the car has the potential for a big bill occasionally (see above). I'm lucky that I have a very good LR specialist within 1 mile of home. They know their stuff and know that these big repair costs need to be sensible, I wouldn't even dream about using a LR dealership for anything I had to pay for. I'm not sure I'd run one without a sufficient repair reserve fund available in case that big bill does come along.
I bought myself a 2006 4.2 s/c a couple months back and love it to bits. I'm expecting the occasional challenge with it of course but that's part of the fun of ownership of a car.
What a car though, fits every need from ferrying family, tip runs, mountain biking trips, offroad fun, transporting the band and our gear, and being a mechanic hobbyist (that's right...I WANT it to break down). Suitably fast, spacious, fits in wherever you take it and just a pleasure to live with.
Might start a readers cars thread and document some of the plans I have for it if anyone would be interested.
What a car though, fits every need from ferrying family, tip runs, mountain biking trips, offroad fun, transporting the band and our gear, and being a mechanic hobbyist (that's right...I WANT it to break down). Suitably fast, spacious, fits in wherever you take it and just a pleasure to live with.
Might start a readers cars thread and document some of the plans I have for it if anyone would be interested.
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