RE: Range Rover V8 Supercharged: Spotted
Discussion
B17NNS said:
I imagine 17mpg is optimistic. If the fuel cost doesn't ruin you the bills will.
Still would though.
TDV8 makes much more sense.
Yes but they don't because the petrol V8 is reliable and the TDV8's start dropping very big bills after 120k miles. In the words of my local LR independant "don't buy TDV8s with high miles - you'll never stop spending".Still would though.
TDV8 makes much more sense.
Toaster Pilot said:
I’ve been looking at L322s recently. You can’t buy a decent TDV8 for £5500, even at auction. You can for around £7500 though but it’ll probably be a little leggy.
I just paid 6000 for an 08 4.2 with 180k miles so yes quite leggy but the 4.2S/C is a very strong engine coupled with the 1 owner that serviced yearly and spared no expense, I’d say that’s the bargain of the century.
I just paid 6000 for an 08 4.2 with 180k miles so yes quite leggy but the 4.2S/C is a very strong engine coupled with the 1 owner that serviced yearly and spared no expense, I’d say that’s the bargain of the century.
Toaster Pilot said:
I’ve been looking at L322s recently. You can’t buy a decent TDV8 for £5500, even at auction. You can for around £7500 though but it’ll probably be a little leggy.
I sincerely hope you're right - I'm looking to change mine, soon, and that means it's worth about half as much again as I thought it was!Whydoesthatboyhavetwocars said:
Toaster Pilot said:
I’ve been looking at L322s recently. You can’t buy a decent TDV8 for £5500, even at auction. You can for around £7500 though but it’ll probably be a little leggy.
I just paid 6000 for an 08 4.2 with 180k miles so yes quite leggy but the 4.2S/C is a very strong engine coupled with the 1 owner that serviced yearly and spared no expense, I’d say that’s the bargain of the century.
I just paid 6000 for an 08 4.2 with 180k miles so yes quite leggy but the 4.2S/C is a very strong engine coupled with the 1 owner that serviced yearly and spared no expense, I’d say that’s the bargain of the century.
New chap at work bought a 2007 one recently - black 4.2 supercharged. The company we work for pays well, so he treated himself to this car after a lifetime (to date) of bland white goods cars, and I think it's bloody ace.
He, like me, is a bit of a perfectionist so he's started a regime of putting everything right with it which is going to cost a bit but he's found an indy specialist who isn't fleecing him. He has also installed LPG so his fuel costs are reasonable.
I have a black 2011 Merc GL so we often park next to each other. Mine's technically bigger but from the front the RR looks more imposing. Both run on air suspension, and weigh as much as small buildings. Both had a curious mix of LED, HID and conventional "hot wire" lighting - a consequence of the tech available at the time they were built - and both of us have replaced most of the bulbs with LED equivalents. It freshens them up a bit, inside and out.
I wouldn't say the RR has cost him any more to maintain than my GL. Since buying mine, I've replaced the air sus compressor, both exhaust back boxes, all-4 tyres (feck me, they're eye wateringly expensive), turbo resealing (common problem on the V6 Merc diesel), and numerous niggly things.
By comparison, colleague has set about tidying up items on his, replacing all bushes, including those for the subframes - but only because there was some notable wear/degradation. We often compare notes on a Monday morning, sympathising with each other about the cost but then relishing what we now own. The latest is that colleague has a leak from the air sus, and he's set on replacing two of the struts with some lifetime warranty ones (I forget the brand but they're well known to RR people) which are far more expensive than the pattern-copy ones you can buy on eBay.
I've had mine for about a year longer than he's had his but our budget for "remediation" work has been very similar - about £4K each (not including the tyres but this does include the LPG conversion on his). I have spent this believing I have now got a car than I can keep for years to come, as long as I keep on top of things. Colleague's RR is in a similar condition.
I think you have to go into any large car ownership with your eyes open. Mercs don't tend to rust any more, and colleague's RR hasn't got any either. So I reckon if you're in the market for one of the RRs, buy one that's rust free, be prepared to "remediate" to bring it up to spec, you should be OK.
He, like me, is a bit of a perfectionist so he's started a regime of putting everything right with it which is going to cost a bit but he's found an indy specialist who isn't fleecing him. He has also installed LPG so his fuel costs are reasonable.
I have a black 2011 Merc GL so we often park next to each other. Mine's technically bigger but from the front the RR looks more imposing. Both run on air suspension, and weigh as much as small buildings. Both had a curious mix of LED, HID and conventional "hot wire" lighting - a consequence of the tech available at the time they were built - and both of us have replaced most of the bulbs with LED equivalents. It freshens them up a bit, inside and out.
I wouldn't say the RR has cost him any more to maintain than my GL. Since buying mine, I've replaced the air sus compressor, both exhaust back boxes, all-4 tyres (feck me, they're eye wateringly expensive), turbo resealing (common problem on the V6 Merc diesel), and numerous niggly things.
By comparison, colleague has set about tidying up items on his, replacing all bushes, including those for the subframes - but only because there was some notable wear/degradation. We often compare notes on a Monday morning, sympathising with each other about the cost but then relishing what we now own. The latest is that colleague has a leak from the air sus, and he's set on replacing two of the struts with some lifetime warranty ones (I forget the brand but they're well known to RR people) which are far more expensive than the pattern-copy ones you can buy on eBay.
I've had mine for about a year longer than he's had his but our budget for "remediation" work has been very similar - about £4K each (not including the tyres but this does include the LPG conversion on his). I have spent this believing I have now got a car than I can keep for years to come, as long as I keep on top of things. Colleague's RR is in a similar condition.
I think you have to go into any large car ownership with your eyes open. Mercs don't tend to rust any more, and colleague's RR hasn't got any either. So I reckon if you're in the market for one of the RRs, buy one that's rust free, be prepared to "remediate" to bring it up to spec, you should be OK.
A couple of years back I purchased a Discovery 4 from a main dealer. I looked at a couple at non-franchise dealers and didn't want to take the risk on dodgy ones. The worst experience of my life. The dealer was a disgrace fobbing me off with every excuse in the book. The car never ran right. They returned the car to me damaged three times in 18 months! In the end they admitted that the car wasn't running right but an engine replacement was refused by LR. In the end I used the consumer credit act to get most of my money back. I would never have a LR vehicle ever again. The whole experience put me off. This might be dealer serviced but with the list of potential things to go wrong I would not take the risk. If you want a V8 SUV buy an BMW X5; Merc ML; Audi or Volvo. All will be a risk but nowhere near as bad as the LR.
popeyewhite said:
I've owned my 2011 Vogue SE TDV8 as a second car for 1.5 years, and get a consistent 21.5 mpg.
Bugger me - you must have a heavy right foot!Mine consistently gives 32-33mpg, and even when I've had to cane it across country when running late for a meeting or something, I've never managed to get below 26-27mpg.
kellydk said:
A couple of years back I purchased a Discovery 4 from a main dealer. I looked at a couple at non-franchise dealers and didn't want to take the risk on dodgy ones. The worst experience of my life. The dealer was a disgrace fobbing me off with every excuse in the book. The car never ran right. They returned the car to me damaged three times in 18 months! In the end they admitted that the car wasn't running right but an engine replacement was refused by LR. In the end I used the consumer credit act to get most of my money back. I would never have a LR vehicle ever again. The whole experience put me off. This might be dealer serviced but with the list of potential things to go wrong I would not take the risk. If you want a V8 SUV buy an BMW X5; Merc ML; Audi or Volvo. All will be a risk but nowhere near as bad as the LR.
Definitely the wrong thread.With the exception of the very bland ML, none of those vehicles will tow what the Rangey will tow. All look much less of a vehicle and you bought a Disco 4. A totally different beast. Even the Sport of the same era as this Rangey is a Disco 3 in a skirt.
Anyway, I know mine's a Sport, but having put uprated brakes, done the supercharger upgrade, exhaust modifications (you only thought these sounded good!
) and wheels and tyres; I don't know what I'd change it for. Having owned it for so long, it is still such a capable vehicle. Goes like hell when you plant your foot, can tow anything pretty much, can look good doing the shopping at Asda or parked outside the country hotel. Short of parting with a LOT of dosh to get the new version (which I don't think looks as good, it looks like Elvis in 1977 rather than Elvis in the 60s) there simply is nothing else out there.Tyre Smoke said:
Definitely the wrong thread.
With the exception of the very bland ML, none of those vehicles will tow what the Rangey will tow. All look much less of a vehicle and you bought a Disco 4. A totally different beast. Even the Sport of the same era as this Rangey is a Disco 3 in a skirt.
Anyway, I know mine's a Sport, but having put uprated brakes, done the supercharger upgrade, exhaust modifications (you only thought these sounded good!) and wheels and tyres; I don't know what I'd change it for. Having owned it for so long, it is still such a capable vehicle. Goes like hell when you plant your foot, can tow anything pretty much, can look good doing the shopping at Asda or parked outside the country hotel. Short of parting with a LOT of dosh to get the new version (which I don't think looks as good, it looks like Elvis in 1977 rather than Elvis in the 60s) there simply is nothing else out there.
Pedantic point coming up but a 2007 onwards X5 can tow 3500kg. I regularly towed a fully loaded double horse trailer all over the place. Never once got stuck and it averaged 25mpg towing. So many people think that the only cars that can tow big trailers are Land/Range Rovers, let alone tackle the challenges of a field at a horse trials. There is choice. Having said that and despite the generally poor quality and reliability, Range Rover's have something the others don't and in the right spec (for me that would be non black, no tints, sensible wheels) look so right. With the exception of the very bland ML, none of those vehicles will tow what the Rangey will tow. All look much less of a vehicle and you bought a Disco 4. A totally different beast. Even the Sport of the same era as this Rangey is a Disco 3 in a skirt.
Anyway, I know mine's a Sport, but having put uprated brakes, done the supercharger upgrade, exhaust modifications (you only thought these sounded good!
) and wheels and tyres; I don't know what I'd change it for. Having owned it for so long, it is still such a capable vehicle. Goes like hell when you plant your foot, can tow anything pretty much, can look good doing the shopping at Asda or parked outside the country hotel. Short of parting with a LOT of dosh to get the new version (which I don't think looks as good, it looks like Elvis in 1977 rather than Elvis in the 60s) there simply is nothing else out there.My old RRC is objectively crap, but it doesn't stop it being brilliant and in my opinion much cooler than any modern 4x4
Harleyboy said:
Pedantic point coming up but a 2007 onwards X5 can tow 3500kg.
Parker's says 2700Kg. We had a 60-reg one and I'm sure there was something in its paperwork which limited the towing capability below the ML we also had, which led to my deciding to install a towbar on the older ML.
Edited by Watchman on Thursday 15th November 10:01
Hi, petrols and the 25d were 2700 but all diesels were 3500. Pulled straight from BMW tech data sheets. I remember being pleasantly surprised as 2700 was borderline with trailer and two horses (despite seeing numerous Freelanders lugging two nags about!)
There's a really exciting website called towingcapacity.co.uk Worth a read if you wake up in the night and can't get back to sleep
There's a really exciting website called towingcapacity.co.uk Worth a read if you wake up in the night and can't get back to sleep
Equus said:
Bugger me - you must have a heavy right foot!
Mine consistently gives 32-33mpg, and even when I've had to cane it across country when running late for a meeting or something, I've never managed to get below 26-27mpg.
Very few long journeys, a desire to keep the DPF from getting clogged (once bitten..), and that quite pleasant hit of acceleration from 40-70 keeps the mpg modest. 32-33mpg I can only dream of!Mine consistently gives 32-33mpg, and even when I've had to cane it across country when running late for a meeting or something, I've never managed to get below 26-27mpg.
Not sure what it is with Range Rovers, when a new one comes out, the old one that one minute looked classy, elegant and desirable suddenly looks old, awkward and ungainly, happens with a lot of cars, but to my eyes, the RR seems one of the worst affected by this.
Just seems very upright and top heavy, can still manage a hint of class as long as it isnt geyserfied with white paint and black wheels etc.
I would only bother if I needed proper off road ability, otherwise not with yours.
Just seems very upright and top heavy, can still manage a hint of class as long as it isnt geyserfied with white paint and black wheels etc.
I would only bother if I needed proper off road ability, otherwise not with yours.
J4CKO said:
I would only bother if I needed proper off road ability...
That's exactly what I used to think, until I tried one for a few weeks. Then it all made sense. Same thing happened to me with a 911...didn't 'get' it at all for a few weeks, then suddenly realised what a package it was.Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff