RE: Range Rover V8 Supercharged: Spotted
Discussion
911Thrasher said:
ahahha acutally used to own one too back in 2009 4.2SS FFRR (07 plate) it was amazing and never failed to take us everywhere: from London to Courchevel or Biarritz, 10kmiles a year for a couple years. Super pleasant place to be in whether driving or being driven around.
Now run a AMG-G55 and that's a proper beast in terms of mpg...12mpg average over the past 7kmiles (says the trip computer)
12.5 is nice but no match for my LSE Overfinch which was 4.5 around London. Now run a AMG-G55 and that's a proper beast in terms of mpg...12mpg average over the past 7kmiles (says the trip computer)
popeyewhite said:
300bhp/ton said:
If you are only getting 12mpg that must be rather heavy foot city driving for short distances. Normal bimbling about should be more like 15-19mpg and 20+ on a better run.
Not sure what the point is of owning a 5. SC is and bimbling. 
911Thrasher said:
ahahha acutally used to own one too back in 2009 4.2SS FFRR (07 plate) it was amazing and never failed to take us everywhere: from London to Courchevel or Biarritz, 10kmiles a year for a couple years. Super pleasant place to be in whether driving or being driven around.
Now run a AMG-G55 and that's a proper beast in terms of mpg...12mpg average over the past 7kmiles (says the trip computer)
I thought my G55 was broken when I first got it as that's the MPG I get too Now run a AMG-G55 and that's a proper beast in terms of mpg...12mpg average over the past 7kmiles (says the trip computer)
That said Mum's got a 2002 L322 4.4 V8 and that struggles to get more than 15mpg on average. I do love that Range Rover though, such a comfortable car to travel in, had a S600L for 12 months and the range rover is genuinely a more comfortable car to travel around in.
Personally don't see the point in Supercharged versions, not a car I have any desire to drive quickly, it's dangerous in corners at speed.
Roger Irrelevant said:
Would people please stop saying that they've bought one of these and not had much trouble with it. It makes me more likely to buy one and with my track record (for example I've previously bought the worlds only unreliable late 90's 1.3 Corolla), it's bound to go catastrophically wrong almost immediately.
Interesting points on this thread re expectations of costs though - I'd fully expect to pay a couple of grand a year in maintenance costs to run one of these and I'd do so happily. You just can't run anything that's big, reasonably quick, good off road but getting on a bit on the cheap - I've learned that with my Outback which is a fraction of the car this is. It's the real chance of the costs being at least double that that puts me right off, just couldn't stomach that.
I can help you here. I had the TD5 version of this vehicle back in 2001 when they were factory fresh, pop pickers.Interesting points on this thread re expectations of costs though - I'd fully expect to pay a couple of grand a year in maintenance costs to run one of these and I'd do so happily. You just can't run anything that's big, reasonably quick, good off road but getting on a bit on the cheap - I've learned that with my Outback which is a fraction of the car this is. It's the real chance of the costs being at least double that that puts me right off, just couldn't stomach that.
My wife and then infant child were placed in mortal danger when turning out of a side road onto the A17 the gearbox / transmission failed locking all four wheels solid. I dragged it backwards with 4 smoking tyres out of everyone's way with a telehandler. That was the final straw on an 18 month old vehicle that had reached over £30k in warranty claims. 3/5ths of the purchase price
During this period we had only managed to put 15,000 miles on the clock. A similar mileage was placed on courtesy vehicles that, because this Rover was still a rarity at the time were all Discoveries of the era. Time and time again the vehicle let me down, usually at airports, usually electrical failures, and always requiring a flatbed back to the dealer. The dealer who's network failed miserably and repeatedly to correct a litany of electrical gremlins that plagued this turd of a chariot from handover to sale.It wasn't even any use off road. I don't understand why people think it is. For sure it had ground clearance when the suspension was working, and reasonable wheel articulation, but the compromised on / off road tyres, excessive weight and a then very crude traction control system that could not be over ridden and that relied on cutting engine power to prevent wheel spin would intervene, bogging the car down, always at times when flooring it and building momentum would have got you out of bother. Land Rover are in the s
t now. I won't be providing any life lines.TimJMS said:
I can help you here. I had the TD5 version of this vehicle back in 2001 when they were factory fresh, pop pickers.
Clearly you have little clue here. LR never made a Td5 Range Rover, the Td5 engine was used in the Defender and Disco 2 only.2001 is also the change over year. Did you have a p38a? These used a 2.5 litre 6 cylinder BMW diesel engine. Or did you have an early L322? The L322 shares no components with the p38a. The L322 used the 3.0 6 cylinder BMW diesel engine.
TimJMS said:
My wife and then infant child were placed in mortal danger when turning out of a side road onto the A17 the gearbox / transmission failed locking all four wheels solid.
The automatic gearboxes used on the p38 uses a ZF gearbox (a German gearbox). The L322 TD6 uses a GM gearbox. Land Rover didn't make either of them.TimJMS said:
It wasn't even any use off road. I don't understand why people think it is. For sure it had ground clearance when the suspension was working, and reasonable wheel articulation, but the compromised on / off road tyres,
Seriously WTF????Land Rover don't make effing tyres. If you are going heavy off roading you'd change them for something suitable. Blaming the car for tyre choice is pretty stupid.
TimJMS said:
excessive weight and a then very crude traction control system that could not be over ridden and that relied on cutting engine power to prevent wheel spin would intervene, bogging the car down,
No it doesn't, or shouldn't be. Doesn't on any other Land Rover. That's the entire point of it.TimJMS said:
always at times when flooring it and building momentum would have got you out of bother.
Flooring it is often a way to get stuck off road, or break something or cause an accident, it very often is not the answer at all.The Sport of that era was just a Disco in an ill fitting frock. The only saving grace was that it did at least allow you to by a Disco with that SC engine albeit at the loss of much of the practicality of the Disco.
Faced with an SC L322 v a Sport from that era I really do think the L322 wins absolutely hands down.
Faced with an SC L322 v a Sport from that era I really do think the L322 wins absolutely hands down.
300bhp/ton said:
TimJMS said:
I can help you here. I had the TD5 version of this vehicle back in 2001 when they were factory fresh, pop pickers.
Clearly you have little clue here. LR never made a Td5 Range Rover, the Td5 engine was used in the Defender and Disco 2 only.2001 is also the change over year. Did you have a p38a? These used a 2.5 litre 6 cylinder BMW diesel engine. Or did you have an early L322? The L322 shares no components with the p38a. The L322 used the 3.0 6 cylinder BMW diesel engine.
That was the one. An early L322 from 2001 with the BMW diesel. Thought it was designated TD5 but must have been TD6. Anyway its irrelevant since we are talking about everything but the engine. The engine when it would start was simultaneously the most and yet least impressive thing about the car. Reliable but noisy and gutless.
TimJMS said:
My wife and then infant child were placed in mortal danger when turning out of a side road onto the A17 the gearbox / transmission failed locking all four wheels solid.
The automatic gearboxes used on the p38 uses a ZF gearbox (a German gearbox). The L322 TD6 uses a GM gearbox. Land Rover didn't make either of them.So? It still failed nearly killing my entire family as a result. Not even all the Mk 1 Range Rovers we'd owned previously had come close to doing that.
TimJMS said:
It wasn't even any use off road. I don't understand why people think it is. For sure it had ground clearance when the suspension was working, and reasonable wheel articulation, but the compromised on / off road tyres,
Seriously WTF????Land Rover don't make effing tyres. If you are going heavy off roading you'd change them for something suitable. Blaming the car for tyre choice is pretty stupid.
So? The choice of tyres was Land Rover's not mine. This is a vehicle that people buy on the strength of its on and off roadability, not the desire of its owners to be pitlane professionals in swapping tyres multiple times a day.
TimJMS said:
excessive weight and a then very crude traction control system that could not be over ridden and that relied on cutting engine power to prevent wheel spin would intervene, bogging the car down,
No it doesn't, or shouldn't be. Doesn't on any other Land Rover. That's the entire point of it.Eh? The car used to cut power to gain traction. This is the last thing you need as the treads are filling with clay turning them into slicks. Press the accelerator and the car kills power? That's counter intuitive.
TimJMS said:
always at times when flooring it and building momentum would have got you out of bother.
Flooring it is often a way to get stuck off road, or break something or cause an accident, it very often is not the answer at all.
J4CKO said:
Not sure what it is with Range Rovers, when a new one comes out, the old one that one minute looked classy, elegant and desirable suddenly looks old, awkward and ungainly, happens with a lot of cars, but to my eyes, the RR seems one of the worst affected by this.
Just seems very upright and top heavy, can still manage a hint of class as long as it isnt geyserfied with white paint and black wheels etc.
really?Just seems very upright and top heavy, can still manage a hint of class as long as it isnt geyserfied with white paint and black wheels etc.
one of the few cars out there where I would happily own all 4 generations - and don't feel that any of them are out of date...
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