RE: TVR Griffith at Castle Combe: Time For Coffee

[Finchingtons]

Hope they chop the roof off!

[Mackofthejungle]

What an unfortunate sound! God I hope it sounds (a lot) better in the flesh. Sounds asthmatic..

Why do most modern v8s sound artificial? Engines don't sound like this... It's really weird.

[unsprung]

lol, all the negative comments heaped into this thread

the only thing worth a moan, in my opinion, is the ridiculous price this new Griffith is likely to command

I reckon that slightly less oomph, and a lot more mass-market construction and pricing, would have been far more exciting

especially if said construction and pricing would allow for high-volume export to that motor-mad continent the other side of the Pond

too late, I know

but I've grown weary of all the money and exclusivity that seem to pass for normal here on PH

[anonymous-user]

unsprung said:

lo

the only thing worth a moan, in my opinion, is the ridiculous price this new Griffith is likely to command

I reckon that slightly less oomph, and a lot more mass-market construction and pricing, would have been far more exciting

especially if said construction and pricing would allow for high-volume export to that motor-mad continent the other side of the Pond

I agree, Boxters now have 4 cylinders. Why not make something which a nice bigger engine for that market with similar pricing?

Then make a more expensive bigger model as the processes and reputation etc get established.

[fernando the frog]

I don't understand all of the hate this car gets. The engine sounds awesome and it looks nice too. I assume a lot of the people who hate it are maybe old and stuck in their ways? I don't get it.

[SturdyHSV]

El stovey said:

I agree, Boxters now have 4 cylinders. Why not make something which a nice bigger engine for that market with similar pricing?

It's quite possible that was the original plan, but introduce a few inexperienced miscalculations along the way and the only way to stay afloat it is to up the price. Who knows.

[TCS1]

The noise reminds me of the SLR Mclaren - people were raving about how good that sounds.

[HighwayStar]

El stovey said:

unsprung said:

lo

the only thing worth a moan, in my opinion, is the ridiculous price this new Griffith is likely to command

I reckon that slightly less oomph, and a lot more mass-market construction and pricing, would have been far more exciting

especially if said construction and pricing would allow for high-volume export to that motor-mad continent the other side of the Pond

I agree, Boxters now have 4 cylinders. Why not make something which a nice bigger engine for that market with similar pricing?

Then make a more expensive bigger model as the processes and reputation etc get established.

It's hard for any company to complete with the Cayster on price, let alone a start up. You have the F-Type, they haven't quite managed it. Alpine have got the closest and still people are saying might as well buy the Porsche. Porsche have the economies of scale to build and send them out the door at that price, with quality, customer service built in. Hands up, I have a Cayman but I would love to see alternatives in it's segment that I could seriously consider if I ever decided to try something else. At the moment that's the Alpine. I don't see a company like TVR being able to play in that space, at that price.... and make money.

[KillianB4]

Saw one of these in the metal at the NEC Classic last year and I cant equate that car to the one in the video, it looks MUCH better in person. I like it, I don't have an issue with the sound either and I actually liked the previous wheels for being a bit mad (it is a TVR after all) there was rumours that they were going to bin the side exhaust and I met a chap who said he told TVR he would ask for his deposit back if they did. Evidently they listened. I'd have one. Not that I can afford it but I probably would lump on one if i had the cash to be a bit different. Maybe I can pick up an older Griff if the opportunity arises. Have quite a soft spot for those.

[Cold]

Is this car still a thing? I figured it had drifted back into obscurity.

[anonymous-user]

Not enough oversteer, 6/10 Must try harder......

[B17NNS]

Cold said:

Is this car still a thing? I figured it had drifted back into obscurity.

Big thread here:

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

[dunnoreally]

Aaaaaaah, you lot can say what you want. I still desire one of these more than anything else currently on sale. In a world where even the Mustang's going hybrid, this is the new Tiv and it's got rear wheel drive, a manual gearbox and a massive foff v8. And side exit exhausts. It's the beef farmer at the vegan convention, and I bloody love it.

[Hotel Indigo]

dunnoreally said:

Aaaaaaah, you lot can say what you want. I still desire one of these more than anything else currently on sale. In a world where even the Mustang's going hybrid, this is the new Tiv and it's got rear wheel drive, a manual gearbox and a massive foff v8. And side exit exhausts. It's the beef farmer at the vegan convention, and I bloody love it.

Hear hear!

[addz86]

TCS1 said:

The noise reminds me of the SLR Mclaren - people were raving about how good that sounds.

First thing I thought too, sounds fantastic!

[bullittmcqueen]

KillianB4 said:

Saw one of these in the metal at the NEC Classic last year and I cant equate that car to the one in the video, it looks MUCH better in person. I like it, I don't have an issue with the sound either and I actually liked the previous wheels for being a bit mad (it is a TVR after all) there was rumours that they were going to bin the side exhaust and I met a chap who said he told TVR he would ask for his deposit back if they did. Evidently they listened. I'd have one. Not that I can afford it but I probably would lump on one if i had the cash to be a bit different. Maybe I can pick up an older Griff if the opportunity arises. Have quite a soft spot for those.

Are you sure about the rumors ? Never heard about them and they are most likely not true. The side exhausts are integral to the whole car's architecture, not just a design gimmick. The underfloor aero, which prevented the rear exhausts, was a major feat from the beginning on. It sure was a massive effort to design, develop and stay within the limits of type approval. Altering them would probably have meant a complete redesign of the entire chassis. Them being technically required is the only way these days to get them approved in a new car.

[bullittmcqueen]

addz86 said:

TCS1 said:

The noise reminds me of the SLR Mclaren - people were raving about how good that sounds.

First thing I thought too, sounds fantastic!

Yep. It's the second road car to sport underfloor aero and it has the nice side-effect of making working side exhausts legal these days.

Looks are a matter of a taste, no question here, but the rest is hardly to dispute:

It sports a big V8, naturally aspirated, comes in at 1250 Kilos with 500+ bhp. That is 2.5 KG per bhp and that performance bracket is not overpopulated, certainly not at that price ( The Corvette C7 Z06 at 660 hp is in the same bracket !! )

It also is manual gearbox only, rear wheel drive and is as oldschool as it gets these days. It was developed by Gordon Murray, creator of the McLaren F1, with Le Mans-racing in mind.

How someone can seriously stack this up against a Cayman or an Alpine, is totally beyond me.

[rev-erend]

Sounds like a briggs and stratton lawn mower.

[jorders500]

It really does sound like it’s farting. Reminds me of the Morgan V2.

Another thing... low volume cars never look quite right to me. It always seems to go wrong around the headlights, air intake and the rear view.

I’d rather have a 911.

[macky17]

As the owner of a Tuscan (my second) I remain unconvinced but hope I’m wrong. A darker colour, perhaps? Either way, if we want TVR to rise from the dead and produce other more gorgeous cars, we need to be a bit more positive about this one.