European Ford with an engine larger than 3.0 litres?

European Ford with an engine larger than 3.0 litres?

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RobXjcoupe

3,172 posts

91 months

Monday 19th November 2018
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Well Ford is an American brand. Ford of Britain did once exist until zee Germans merged to create Ford of Europe. Ford of Europe did bail out Ford of America I think in the 70’s. Ford of America currently doesn’t want to bail out Ford of Europe. Last British built Ford was a transit van in 2013 and last British built Ford passenger car was a mk5 fiesta in 2002.
Ford still make the complete range of European spec petrol and Diesel engines in the U.K., not sure for how much longer though. frown

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

190 months

Monday 19th November 2018
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AW111 said:
300bhp/ton said:
On this basis, I think the RHD Ford Explorer is as much a UK model as any other UK model sold over here, by whom ever. But it doesn't alter the fact that a Focus or a Mondeo are actually American cars.
In which case, the Ford Laser (as it was called in Aus) is Japanese, since it was a re-badged Mazda 323.
I'd call it Japanese.
Badge engineering causes greater confusion to the situation. laugh

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300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

190 months

Monday 19th November 2018
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RobXjcoupe said:
Well Ford is an American brand. Ford of Britain did once exist
Ford America is not just a brand, they are the parent company, the owner and a car maker in their own right. Ford of Britain was only ever a subsidiary of Ford Motor Company.

Nobody thought they'd start a new car maker in Britain and just happened to accidentally called it Ford, but not be related to the American auto maker.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

190 months

Monday 19th November 2018
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aeropilot said:
And even before those, you can go back to the Ford model Y of the 1930's which was the first Ford produced specifically for markets outside of the USA smile
No denying that at all. But it could also be written like this:

And even before those, you can go back to the Ford model Y of the 1930's which was the first vehicle Ford Motor Company of America produced specifically for markets outside of the USA smile

aeropilot

34,600 posts

227 months

Monday 19th November 2018
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300bhp/ton said:
aeropilot said:
And even before those, you can go back to the Ford model Y of the 1930's which was the first Ford produced specifically for markets outside of the USA smile
No denying that at all.
Is that an admission that your post on Page 1 of this thread was utter bks then laugh


Some Gump

12,691 posts

186 months

Monday 19th November 2018
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Love it when someone tries being a pedant but cocks it up by being factually wrong repeatedly.

Does the current Mustang count? It's available in 5.0 and RHD is it not?

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

190 months

Monday 19th November 2018
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Some Gump said:
Love it when someone tries being a pedant but cocks it up by being factually wrong repeatedly.

Does the current Mustang count? It's available in 5.0 and RHD is it not?
Mustang is in the op. And no wasn't being a pedant, nor factually wrong either.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

190 months

Monday 19th November 2018
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legless said:
No it wasn't.

Had you put up a picture of an original Legend, a Ballade, a Concerto or a (cough) Crossroad you'd have been right though.
Apologies, got the info from AROnline. I assume you may have worked at Longbridge?

5lab

1,654 posts

196 months

Monday 19th November 2018
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let me present you with the ford 3.6 pilot

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Pilot

built by ford uk

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_of_Britain

which was traded on the UK stock exchange. so yes, pedant and wrong wink

f1nn

2,693 posts

192 months

Monday 19th November 2018
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300bhp/ton said:
On this basis, I think the RHD Ford Explorer is as much a UK model as any other UK model sold over here, by whom ever. But it doesn't alter the fact that a Focus or a Mondeo are actually American cars.
The Ford Explorer Wikipedia page would leave you in absolutely no doubt that this vehicle, at least up to and including the generation in question, was designed primarily for the American market.

RobXjcoupe

3,172 posts

91 months

Tuesday 20th November 2018
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f1nn said:
300bhp/ton said:
On this basis, I think the RHD Ford Explorer is as much a UK model as any other UK model sold over here, by whom ever. But it doesn't alter the fact that a Focus or a Mondeo are actually American cars.
The Ford Explorer Wikipedia page would leave you in absolutely no doubt that this vehicle, at least up to and including the generation in question, was designed primarily for the American market.
The mk1 Focus was a Mazda design, Ford swapped with Mazda for the new escort replacement

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

190 months

Tuesday 20th November 2018
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f1nn said:
The Ford Explorer Wikipedia page would leave you in absolutely no doubt that this vehicle, at least up to and including the generation in question, was designed primarily for the American market.
So they didn't make any changes to sell it in the UK then? And yes, the size of the US market means many many cars are "primarily" designed for it.

What current mass market cars in the UK are "primarily" designed for just the UK?