RE: Audi R8 Performance: Driven
Discussion
SidewaysSi said:
Terminator X said:
SidewaysSi said:
Nors said:
Cold said:
SidewaysSi said:
Why not just get a TT?
What, the 620 bhp V10 mid-engined TT? Sure, get one of those.
They all drive the same anyway. You will get 90% of the experience in an A1 TFSI.
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F1GTRUeno said:
big_rob_sydney said:
Seems a big price difference for the "massive" gain of 0.4 seconds across a 71 second lap...
I wonder how much it costs to have a simple tune done on the TTRS? £100,000?
Pretty sure the people the buy these don't give a fI wonder how much it costs to have a simple tune done on the TTRS? £100,000?
k about track times.People want drama, excitement, a childish grin and something amazing for £100,000 and even those on here that have a V10 R8 have admitted that it is lacking that certain "je ne sais quoi" that a six figure car should possess.
Midgster said:
Housey said:
To those suggesting it's just like a TT (I have driven a few of them including the RS) stop talking out of your ass and/or trolling, it makes you seem ill informed, childish or as thick as fk. It is nothing like a TT to drive, massively more special.
.k. It is nothing like a TT to drive, massively more special.As said, I don't own either, so don't have the experience you have of these cars, but have driven both. If you wore a helmet that blocked out the interior and the engine note, there is not a big enough difference between the R8 and the TT RS for 90% (a complete assumption on my behalf) of even pistonhead drivers to tell the 2 apart when driving. I'm sure on the track ragging the cars silly they are quite distinguishable, but on UK roads, they are too similar to warrant a price 3 times that of a TT RS. Calling poeple thick as f**k has made you look more childish than those you think are ill informed.
Housey said:
However putting the dickwad comments to one side, it isn't special enough for the price, engine aside and has sadly inherited many of the Audi traits we all love (I mean loathe) such as numb steering, over assisted brakes and a general competence without event. Sure all the tech is nice have have, the systems are clever and it is a nice place to be. But as has been said you sit on it not in it (mine is the same) and though you get used to that take a 570S out or GT3, a car a really miss and you realise how Audi still doesn't get immersion.
.You've basically just agreed with the so called dickwad comments yourself.
The A1 TFSi comment I'm sure was a touch too far, but most people get the point with Audi's,
IMO, it's the looks that are the problem. At a glance on the road it's just another Audi. It lacks presence.
Even the interior (which if you are the owner is the bit you see most often) it remains very identifiably Audi. Beautifully screwed together those seats look almost like they were forged from solid leather, the rest... meh.
Oh and that spoiler looks like it should be drooping over the arse-end of a 70s Cortina. Nasty.
Even the interior (which if you are the owner is the bit you see most often) it remains very identifiably Audi. Beautifully screwed together those seats look almost like they were forged from solid leather, the rest... meh.
Oh and that spoiler looks like it should be drooping over the arse-end of a 70s Cortina. Nasty.
Rumblestripe said:
IMO, it's the looks that are the problem. At a glance on the road it's just another Audi. It lacks presence.
Even the interior (which if you are the owner is the bit you see most often) it remains very identifiably Audi. Beautifully screwed together those seats look almost like they were forged from solid leather, the rest... meh.
Oh and that spoiler looks like it should be drooping over the arse-end of a 70s Cortina. Nasty.
What do you drive buddy? Even the interior (which if you are the owner is the bit you see most often) it remains very identifiably Audi. Beautifully screwed together those seats look almost like they were forged from solid leather, the rest... meh.
Oh and that spoiler looks like it should be drooping over the arse-end of a 70s Cortina. Nasty.
I took the plunge and bought a RWS at the beginning of this year. Two main reasons firstly after owning nearly every iteration of 911 GT3 over the last 15 years or so I got knocked back by Porsche on a Gen 2 991 GT3 because "I dont buy enough standard Porsche models to be allocated a GT3!" Secondly I am an engine man and I love N/A V10 engines so it had to be done. The car was an absolute bargain as well, another fact not to be overlooked.
Its been a great summer and I have enjoyed uprating the car to get it to where I want it. I have fitted the AudiSport Adjustable coil overs along with the bespoke Cup2 tyres that are an option in the USA. I have it much lower with a more track focused geometry set up. I have uprated the brakes, fitted a harness bar and harnesses. After all that It still stands me at less than the list price of a base model GT3. Happy days.
This is now the car that Audi should have put out. On track it is very quick, handles great and stops just about OK. Not sure about the quoted power output, but they must have very big horses at Audi! The car is considerably quicker in the mid range than any of my GT3's and is seting quicker laptimes, The engine is an absolute jewel especially right at the top end. I love the Porsche engine but I never liked the sound of the last 500RPM or so as it gets very mechanically noisy, it is a very close call but the V10 is the better, a sublime unit. The Porsche is still just the better track car, better brakes and a better front end but its very very close now.
On the road though the Audi is massively better than a GT3. Its an absolute belter for cruising along, the excellent Bose system pumping out the tunes (try that in your GT3!) The gearbox and engine in comfort mode are superbly calibrated very smooth and quiet, No roll cage rattles, and droning exhaust. Very comfortable, even lowered and stiffened up. Excellent nav, phone integration, instruments, good visibility etc etc. I also dont mind where I park it, its just another TT after all.
So not really a supercar then! Much too easy to drive! For me its perfect, I can drive to the track much like any other top end Audi product, tweak the tyre pressures and thrash the living daylights out of it all day. For added pleasure I slip past the odd GT3 on the straights, with a wry grin.
Its been a great summer and I have enjoyed uprating the car to get it to where I want it. I have fitted the AudiSport Adjustable coil overs along with the bespoke Cup2 tyres that are an option in the USA. I have it much lower with a more track focused geometry set up. I have uprated the brakes, fitted a harness bar and harnesses. After all that It still stands me at less than the list price of a base model GT3. Happy days.
This is now the car that Audi should have put out. On track it is very quick, handles great and stops just about OK. Not sure about the quoted power output, but they must have very big horses at Audi! The car is considerably quicker in the mid range than any of my GT3's and is seting quicker laptimes, The engine is an absolute jewel especially right at the top end. I love the Porsche engine but I never liked the sound of the last 500RPM or so as it gets very mechanically noisy, it is a very close call but the V10 is the better, a sublime unit. The Porsche is still just the better track car, better brakes and a better front end but its very very close now.
On the road though the Audi is massively better than a GT3. Its an absolute belter for cruising along, the excellent Bose system pumping out the tunes (try that in your GT3!) The gearbox and engine in comfort mode are superbly calibrated very smooth and quiet, No roll cage rattles, and droning exhaust. Very comfortable, even lowered and stiffened up. Excellent nav, phone integration, instruments, good visibility etc etc. I also dont mind where I park it, its just another TT after all.
So not really a supercar then! Much too easy to drive! For me its perfect, I can drive to the track much like any other top end Audi product, tweak the tyre pressures and thrash the living daylights out of it all day. For added pleasure I slip past the odd GT3 on the straights, with a wry grin.
jakesmith said:
Rumblestripe said:
IMO, it's the looks that are the problem. At a glance on the road it's just another Audi. It lacks presence.
Even the interior (which if you are the owner is the bit you see most often) it remains very identifiably Audi. Beautifully screwed together those seats look almost like they were forged from solid leather, the rest... meh.
Oh and that spoiler looks like it should be drooping over the arse-end of a 70s Cortina. Nasty.
What do you drive buddy? Even the interior (which if you are the owner is the bit you see most often) it remains very identifiably Audi. Beautifully screwed together those seats look almost like they were forged from solid leather, the rest... meh.
Oh and that spoiler looks like it should be drooping over the arse-end of a 70s Cortina. Nasty.
Rumblestripe said:
Not sure what that has to do with my views on the aesthetics of these cars? But looking at a TT as a possibility in the new year (never going to get to an R8 but hey ho)
Sure, sure. This is a car forum for people interested in cars so surely that makes it a legitimate question Nice cars the tt, which one are you thinking of out of interest?
jakesmith said:
Sure, sure. This is a car forum for people interested in cars so surely that makes it a legitimate question
Nice cars the tt, which one are you thinking of out of interest?
Anything except an oil burner. I need to do a sixty mile roundtrip commute so nothing too thirsty. I have bought several Audis for the business I work for and I find them underwhelming and not impressed with their servicing costs either. But the TT is pretty so it's on the list. (Not sure what else is GT86 +?) won't be new, something with under 40k on it as I'll double that in two years which is a big hit on a new car.Nice cars the tt, which one are you thinking of out of interest?
Housey said:
Midgster said:
Housey said:
To those suggesting it's just like a TT (I have driven a few of them including the RS) stop talking out of your ass and/or trolling, it makes you seem ill informed, childish or as thick as fk. It is nothing like a TT to drive, massively more special.
.k. It is nothing like a TT to drive, massively more special.As said, I don't own either, so don't have the experience you have of these cars, but have driven both. If you wore a helmet that blocked out the interior and the engine note, there is not a big enough difference between the R8 and the TT RS for 90% (a complete assumption on my behalf) of even pistonhead drivers to tell the 2 apart when driving. I'm sure on the track ragging the cars silly they are quite distinguishable, but on UK roads, they are too similar to warrant a price 3 times that of a TT RS. Calling poeple thick as f**k has made you look more childish than those you think are ill informed.
Housey said:
However putting the dickwad comments to one side, it isn't special enough for the price, engine aside and has sadly inherited many of the Audi traits we all love (I mean loathe) such as numb steering, over assisted brakes and a general competence without event. Sure all the tech is nice have have, the systems are clever and it is a nice place to be. But as has been said you sit on it not in it (mine is the same) and though you get used to that take a 570S out or GT3, a car a really miss and you realise how Audi still doesn't get immersion.
.You've basically just agreed with the so called dickwad comments yourself.
The A1 TFSi comment I'm sure was a touch too far, but most people get the point with Audi's,
Edited by Midgster on Monday 19th November 21:15
Midgster said:
Housey said:
Midgster said:
Housey said:
To those suggesting it's just like a TT (I have driven a few of them including the RS) stop talking out of your ass and/or trolling, it makes you seem ill informed, childish or as thick as fk. It is nothing like a TT to drive, massively more special.
.k. It is nothing like a TT to drive, massively more special.As said, I don't own either, so don't have the experience you have of these cars, but have driven both. If you wore a helmet that blocked out the interior and the engine note, there is not a big enough difference between the R8 and the TT RS for 90% (a complete assumption on my behalf) of even pistonhead drivers to tell the 2 apart when driving. I'm sure on the track ragging the cars silly they are quite distinguishable, but on UK roads, they are too similar to warrant a price 3 times that of a TT RS. Calling poeple thick as f**k has made you look more childish than those you think are ill informed.
Housey said:
However putting the dickwad comments to one side, it isn't special enough for the price, engine aside and has sadly inherited many of the Audi traits we all love (I mean loathe) such as numb steering, over assisted brakes and a general competence without event. Sure all the tech is nice have have, the systems are clever and it is a nice place to be. But as has been said you sit on it not in it (mine is the same) and though you get used to that take a 570S out or GT3, a car a really miss and you realise how Audi still doesn't get immersion.
.You've basically just agreed with the so called dickwad comments yourself.
The A1 TFSi comment I'm sure was a touch too far, but most people get the point with Audi's,
Abc321 said:
SidewaysSi said:
Nors said:
Cold said:
SidewaysSi said:
Why not just get a TT?
What, the 620 bhp V10 mid-engined TT? Sure, get one of those.They all drive the same anyway. You will get 90% of the experience in an A1 TFSI.
kwit rather than troll 
SidewaysSi said:
I wouldn't. The TT kills the R8. Dead.
Well I do hope you are joking! But in case you are not - If what you're saying is the case why are they still selling them at all?
You might not see the value but the market disagrees with you as they are selling
There are intangibles about owning a car like an R8 that make it worth the extra cost & running costs to buyers over the TT RS
I have the basic V8 R8, I wouldn't consider the TT RS that I could have bought in its place. I wanted a special & rare naturally aspirated V8 hand built flagship car that is pretty close to a supercar in terms of its looks and soundtrack - Quicksilver Supersprint being fitted tomorrow
I didn't want a very fast coupe based on a Golf. TT RS is a very fast competent vehicle but doesn't tick any of those boxes that matter to meThe sort of person buying one of these V10's new probably buys a new car in the £130k-£200k range every 1-2 years and wants something different to the Ferarri, Lambo, McLarrens that they have already tried, or maybe wants something more understated so the more subtle looks are a selling point. A TT is never going to compete no matter how good they are.
It is worth what people would pay for it and they are selling loads. It might not be worth any more than the TT to you but are you the target market or a viable buyer of one of these cars?
Comparing performance and lap times is also not really that relevant either. A Golf R can be made to go very very fast but noone into supercars would see it as a viable alternative so who cares. A subaru WRX would lap a track as fast as a 360 Ferarri. It is irrelevant they compete in desperate sectors and people who have money to spend see value in race heritage, 8-10 cylinder Nasp engines, exotic looks, things like the glass engine cover etc etc. All of which the R8 has.
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