RE: Lamborghini announces Urus racing series

[arkenphel]

Nanook said:

This was kinda my point earlier in the thread.

You think a Urus with a rollcage is going to last long doing that sort of driving?

Nope. But it would be fun watching them drive it to destruction.

[Mackofthejungle]

arkenphel said:

Nanook said:

This was kinda my point earlier in the thread.

You think a Urus with a rollcage is going to last long doing that sort of driving?

Nope. But it would be fun watching them drive it to destruction.

But since they won't be interested in seeing their cars destroyed (by the first jump if they were to attempt a rallycross/stadium truck style course) will this not just end up being a nothing event? Some 2 ton SUVs driving around a track quite slowly? I mean sure, the racing could be good, but I don't really see any reason it'd be especially so.

Not a car I get though. I always think any SUV should be soft riding and massively tyred before the designer draws the first line.

[coppice]

Oh for pity's sake - another desperate publicity stunt . I remember , years ago, watching a field of fat middle aged German bankers 'racing ' in some Lambo series for ..ahem..gentleman drivers . I think in Diablos , at a wet Donintgon . Slow , dull and enlivened only by frequent lurches into the scenery. And now this - hideous , tall and overweight SUVs in a parody of what motorsport should be about- y'know - lightness, fitness for purpose , low cof g and all that boring physics stuff ? ;

[Jimbo89]

Mackofthejungle said:

arkenphel said:

Nanook said:

This was kinda my point earlier in the thread.

You think a Urus with a rollcage is going to last long doing that sort of driving?

Nope. But it would be fun watching them drive it to destruction.

But since they won't be interested in seeing their cars destroyed (by the first jump if they were to attempt a rallycross/stadium truck style course) will this not just end up being a nothing event? Some 2 ton SUVs driving around a track quite slowly? I mean sure, the racing could be good, but I don't really see any reason it'd be especially so.

Not a car I get though. I always think any SUV should be soft riding and massively tyred before the designer draws the first line.

Have you watched GT racing recently? Huracans get bashed into the wall, get re-built and put back on track, why would this be any different? The sort of people who are going to be buying into this championship are not the sort of people who worry about the cost of crashing.

Personally I think the Urus is a hideous abomination (visually but not in principle) however the fact that Lambo are taking them racing is just cool marketing. Pretty much what all racing boils down to.

[Jimbo89]

coppice said:

Oh for pity's sake - another desperate publicity stunt . I remember , years ago, watching a field of fat middle aged German bankers 'racing ' in some Lambo series for ..ahem..gentleman drivers . I think in Diablos , at a wet Donintgon . Slow , dull and enlivened only by frequent lurches into the scenery. And now this - hideous , tall and overweight SUVs in a parody of what motorsport should be about- y'know - lightness, fitness for purpose , low cof g and all that boring physics stuff ? ;

All motorsport at a manufacturer entrant level is just a publicity stunt. Based on your idea of what motorsport should be then there should only ever be single seat formula racing championships. A dozen massive Lambos blasting round a rally cross circuit will no doubt be more interesting than any F1 race I've watched in the last 10 years.

You can and should race anything, for any reason; truck, supercar, Citroen C1, bobsled or aeroplane.

[DonkeyApple]

Nanook said:

I wonder how robust they'll really be?

It’s an Audi. The people at Audi know how to cobble a wagon together to go fast on gravel. Plus, being single marque they are guaranteed to win so don’t need to involve the Board of VW to fudge things.

[J4CKO]

coppice said:

Oh for pity's sake - another desperate publicity stunt . I remember , years ago, watching a field of fat middle aged German bankers 'racing ' in some Lambo series for ..ahem..gentleman drivers . I think in Diablos , at a wet Donintgon . Slow , dull and enlivened only by frequent lurches into the scenery. And now this - hideous , tall and overweight SUVs in a parody of what motorsport should be about- y'know - lightness, fitness for purpose , low cof g and all that boring physics stuff ? ;

Who says that motorsport should be like that ?

Its all bks anyway, its cars going round and round in circles at the end of the day, an utterly frivolous and pointless pursuit.

Its fun though, so it doesnt really have to have a point, and neither does what you race, especially if you are racing against the same thing.

I have watched lot of boring motor racing over the years and plenty that has been utterly gripping, and it isnt how capable and appropriate the cars are that makes it enjoyable, a lot more to it than that.

Whats wrong with "German Bankers" racing ? motor racing is generally a rich mans sport, even grass roots motorsport tends to be expensive, or gets expensive, why shouldnt they have a go ? there is a reason why racing drivers are almost all white lads called Josh, Ollie or Tom.

[coppice]

Jimbo89 said:

coppice said:

Oh for pity's sake - another desperate publicity stunt . I remember , years ago, watching a field of fat middle aged German bankers 'racing ' in some Lambo series for ..ahem..gentleman drivers . I think in Diablos , at a wet Donintgon . Slow , dull and enlivened only by frequent lurches into the scenery. And now this - hideous , tall and overweight SUVs in a parody of what motorsport should be about- y'know - lightness, fitness for purpose , low cof g and all that boring physics stuff ? ;

All motorsport at a manufacturer entrant level is just a publicity stunt. Based on your idea of what motorsport should be then there should only ever be single seat formula racing championships. A dozen massive Lambos blasting round a rally cross circuit will no doubt be more interesting than any F1 race I've watched in the last 10 years.

You can and should race anything, for any reason; truck, supercar, Citroen C1, bobsled or aeroplane.

In the last year I have watched a catholic selection of motorsport from BTCC via Autograss to historic FF1600 , British GT and Masters. I',m a purist in that single seater racing is the top of my personal tree but I can , and do enjoy anything on 4 wheels . And yes , manufacturers do want a return on investment , but the prospect of some over priced , porcine SUVs lumbering around a rallycross track is not very alluring to me . I am never keen on any one make series - but an honorable exception can be made for TVR Tuscans and BMW M1s ....

[406dogvan]

You have to hope that the memory of whatever once made the Quattro tear the arse out of World Rallies is living somewhere in that thing...

You'd have to be dead not to enjoy trying to get one of those things around a rallycross track - the spectator value, however, may be less impressive?

Either way - epic looking thing

[Motormatt]

Mafffew said:

Arsecati said:

IF this really does happen - and it REALLY should happen....... this may be one of the best race series out there! If it was ran something along the lines of the current WRX, with the likes of Kristoffersson, Solberg and Loeb battering the hell out of eachother, this would be simply epic!!

I was thinking something similar to Stadium Trucks - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV8PFYnWHiw

Let all the big boys in, Urus, Bentayga, Q7/8, Range Rover, G Class etc.

Now that might be entertaining.

^^^Exactly this!^^^

A field of Uber-SUVs, Bentaygas, RRS SVRS, SQ7's, Urus, X5M, GLE63's, Levantes, Jeep Trackhawk SRT8's going all out, bumper to bumper on a stadium truck course mixing dirt, jumps, bumps and tarmac would be very entertaining.

Marketing teams could finally give up pretending they are sports car alternatives, now they'd have their own sporting series allowing them to take advantage of the raised ride height and wheel travel to do something traditional sports cars cant.

A bit of motorsport credibility might even help with their image, although whether that matters to the people that actually buy these things to circle around Knightsbridge in is debatable.

[DonkeyApple]

So basically the Hill House school run that takes place every day in Knightsbridge.

[The Surveyor]

Of all the cars in Lamborghini's current line-up, why the Anus for a one-make race series?

It would be great to see a whole field of Performante's hammering around some of the great tracks in Europe as an alternative to the Porsche cup series, but no, they pick their gopping SUV, it shows where their priorities lie.

[Pericoloso]

The Surveyor said:

Of all the cars in Lamborghini's current line-up, why the Anus for a one-make race series?

It would be great to see a whole field of Performante's hammering around some of the great tracks in Europe as an alternative to the Porsche cup series, but no, they pick their gopping SUV, it shows where their priorities lie.

The Huracan Evo has it's race series named Lamborghini trofeo and the Urus series will be on the same programme as this

which is the Blancpain races ,though i'm not sure how they're going to find a mixed surface track at all the venues.

3 series too ,Europe ,Asia and North America.

I assume the Huracan Evo is the equivalent of a GT3 Cup or a 488 Challenge.

Edited by Pericoloso on Friday 23 November 17:39

[TheOrangePeril]

Despite the ludicrous excess of it all, this sounds like a hugely entertaining form of motorsport. Let's just hope it includes everything from flat out tarmac to gravelly hairpins and low-ratio rock crawling to wading and deep mudplugging. That would one hell of a show and a seriously interesting series.

[abzmike]

Any sign of this series actually happening? Apart from a couple of renders, doesn’t seem much sign of it.

[carinaman]

cookie1600 said:

I wonder if they'd mind if you turned up with this to compete against them?

When I saw this headline I thought of the Bowler(s) tearing around a field at Goodwood.