RE: McLaren 720S Spider set for December reveal
Discussion
Greg the Fish said:
Beefmeister said:
Really? REALLY?
In what f
ked up universe of petrolhead-ism is a 720hp convertible supercar that is faster than pretty much anything else on the roads boring?!
It's pretty dull for a supercar. It's very 'Mclaren'.............dull. Good no doubt, but dull.In what f
ked up universe of petrolhead-ism is a 720hp convertible supercar that is faster than pretty much anything else on the roads boring?!SidewaysSi said:
Indeed. It has been about 4 minutes since their last new car.
Woo hoo.
Congratulations, you are now officially one of P/H's idiots. Woo hoo.
This is what McLaren do. They build limited production cars. They are announcing next years products.
Were you born an idiot or did you train for it?
_Leg_ said:
It isn't a dull car. It isn't a boring car. It is an inevitable car and as a business decision McLaren did the right thing in building it. It will sell. It'll damage 720S coupe prices, especially with so many sat around, but what do McLaren care.
What is dull, what is boring is that the industry has become fixated upon outright speed, bhp and technology. They (not just McLaren) continue to churn out more cars which are essentially facelifted, more powerful and tweaked versions of the car before.
It would be interesting and exciting if someone would do something different, something bold.
I'm nonplussed with new cars at the moment. None interest me. 2018 is the first year in as long as I can remember that I haven't added a new car to my collection.
Hopefully someone, in one of the supercar manufacturers will stand up and say, "Enough is enough. We don't need more power, we don't need to be the fastest around the 'ring, lets make something different, something fun, something that changes the game".
What if the 488 replacement actually had less power and a manual box? Now I'm interested. But, unfortunately, most would say, "Slower than the previous car? Eh? I'm not having that" even though they drive it on the road, leave it in sport all the time and never go beyond 4000rpm.
Shame.
That's the best humblebrag I've seen in a while! What is dull, what is boring is that the industry has become fixated upon outright speed, bhp and technology. They (not just McLaren) continue to churn out more cars which are essentially facelifted, more powerful and tweaked versions of the car before.
It would be interesting and exciting if someone would do something different, something bold.
I'm nonplussed with new cars at the moment. None interest me. 2018 is the first year in as long as I can remember that I haven't added a new car to my collection.
Hopefully someone, in one of the supercar manufacturers will stand up and say, "Enough is enough. We don't need more power, we don't need to be the fastest around the 'ring, lets make something different, something fun, something that changes the game".
What if the 488 replacement actually had less power and a manual box? Now I'm interested. But, unfortunately, most would say, "Slower than the previous car? Eh? I'm not having that" even though they drive it on the road, leave it in sport all the time and never go beyond 4000rpm.
Shame.
Slightly more on topic, it's amazing how certain brands elicit such clichés. Mclarens are 'boring' despite the fact the more recent offerings clearly aren't, but because the 12C looked a bit bland and didn't sound exciting at the launch, all Mclarens must be viewed in the same way. Same as all Lamborghinis are driven by Arabs in Mayfair, and that the R8 is just a slightly more powerful TT... oh no hang on that last one might be true....
_Leg_ said:
It'll damage 720S coupe prices, especially with so many sat around, but what do McLaren care.
What is dull, what is boring is that the industry has become fixated upon outright speed, bhp and technology. They (not just McLaren) continue to churn out more cars which are essentially facelifted, more powerful and tweaked versions of the car before.
The point of unusable outright speed has validity°, but to say the 720S is just a mere facelift is selling McLaren very short. It exels in all directions, not just forward and does this at a price point that is far far lower then the next thing that impoves on its dynamics and usuability. And the visibility out of it, so much more important than to have a visually pleasing interior (what the f do you do in a car if that is the most important thing to you - on a sidenote). What is dull, what is boring is that the industry has become fixated upon outright speed, bhp and technology. They (not just McLaren) continue to churn out more cars which are essentially facelifted, more powerful and tweaked versions of the car before.
For a change, it's a car that can be bought to be driven instead of being a car to impress, merely exhilarate/annoy with occasional use (noise) and/or to 'invest' in, hoping it will appreciate in value. If the Spider hurts its value, so what, you're supposed to drive it, perhaps a few additional people who want to drive it can afford to run one then (still too few miles on the ones for sale...)
° happy enough with half the power, the same weight amd more than twice the space, for a tenth of the price, but that's me who can't / won't afford one anyway.
Edited by Onehp on Thursday 22 November 01:19
I absolutely love the 720 and have done since I first saw it. Very bold design. Unfortunately I’m not in a position to own something like this, but I have the upmost admiration for those that are fortune/hard working enough to be able to enjoy such things. I think it’s fabulous that a British marque is doing so well, producing world-class, cutting-edge supercars with regularity, and offering customers a choice from an array of amazing machinery.
I also have no time for people with personality disorders who have an irrational hatred for anything just because it makes them feel relevant and empowered
I also have no time for people with personality disorders who have an irrational hatred for anything just because it makes them feel relevant and empowered
threespires said:
SidewaysSi said:
Indeed. It has been about 4 minutes since their last new car.
Woo hoo.
Congratulations, you are now officially one of P/H's idiots. Woo hoo.
This is what McLaren do. They build limited production cars. They are announcing next years products.
Were you born an idiot or did you train for it?
threespires said:
Good for McLaren, expanding their range and creating jobs and profits to fund future projects..
Why on earth would some think that's worthy of negative comments?
There truly are some idiots on P/H.
Well quite. Why on earth would some think that's worthy of negative comments?
There truly are some idiots on P/H.
McLaren is a massive British success story, going from nowhere a few years ago to challenging the best in the world at making supercars - not to mention the hundreds of skilled jobs and the pushing of boundaries with materials like carbon fibre. The 720S is faster than pretty much anything standard costing less than £1m (until the 750LT, anyway!), the comment pages of enthusiast websites and magazines should be full of positivity for McLaren’s astonishing achievents. Do Italian sites have pages of hate for what Ferrari and Lamborghini are doing, almost certainly not.
We should all be celebrating companies like this, even if we can’t personally afford to be their customer right now. I’ll sure as hell be knocking on their door if I were to win the lottery or sell my business. I’ll have my 720S Spider in the launch blue please.
threespires said:
SidewaysSi said:
Indeed. It has been about 4 minutes since their last new car.
Woo hoo.
Congratulations, you are now officially one of P/H's idiots. Woo hoo.
This is what McLaren do. They build limited production cars. They are announcing next years products.
Were you born an idiot or did you train for it?
Presumably you have one, or at least a picture of one by your bed to be quite so snarky. People do get a little emotional when you say anything remotely negative about cars they like. Very odd.
I think I am making the same point as quite a few others on here. OK it was a little sharp but that is because of my mental issues and how I was born after all
(obligatory smiley face).Edited by SidewaysSi on Thursday 22 November 06:50
easytiger123 said:
threespires said:
SidewaysSi said:
Indeed. It has been about 4 minutes since their last new car.
Woo hoo.
Congratulations, you are now officially one of P/H's idiots. Woo hoo.
This is what McLaren do. They build limited production cars. They are announcing next years products.
Were you born an idiot or did you train for it?
All this moaning paints a very sorry picture, tragic that one can't even view a home brewn product, that actually is good, even remotely positively.
Edited by Onehp on Thursday 22 November 08:54
Onehp said:
I heard there is a recession coming. Apparently caused by moaning.
The 720S Spider is long awaited, and I very much welcome it. Wouldn't mind if the T-bar remains in place, always nice to have something structural remaining...
The 720S Spider is long awaited, and I very much welcome it. Wouldn't mind if the T-bar remains in place, always nice to have something structural remaining...
it doesn't
Flying buttress (like 570 and 599) to rear quarter of roof and option for chromatic glass roof in one panel
Looking forward to seeing how this wizardry works
_Leg_ said:
What is dull, what is boring is that the industry has become fixated upon outright speed, bhp and technology. They (not just McLaren) continue to churn out more cars which are essentially facelifted, more powerful and tweaked versions of the car before.
More so the inevitable 'tease' of an unrepresentative picture of a slightly altered version of something already in production, that's used to create news for us poor people every few weeks. 'Track focused version' this, 'lightened, enhanced that' We get that they are all on the bandwagon, but why the apparent great mystery of a slow trickle of nothing-revealed photos?All the people likely to want to buy one will have already seen the car in pictures in personal e-mails from the factory / dealer, maybe in the flesh and they've probably even driven one.
Onehp said:
You do realise the Spider is very late to the party conpared to the other models, and that on those previous models the spiders always did better keeping their value. So if anything, the delayed 720s introduction helped the coupe residuals!
Not actually true, look at 12C, 650 and 570 model releases.Woking only has two lines so tend do run the coupe for a couple of years then switch to the spider, then the "light weights" before changing the line to the replacement model.
Getting a 570 coupe built is nigh on impossible now, it would be hard to order a 570 spider, that line is currently on 600LT
The other line on 720, which will become 720 spider next year.
easytiger123 said:
threespires said:
SidewaysSi said:
Indeed. It has been about 4 minutes since their last new car.
Woo hoo.
Congratulations, you are now officially one of P/H's idiots. Woo hoo.
This is what McLaren do. They build limited production cars. They are announcing next years products.
Were you born an idiot or did you train for it?
Currently the 720S is one model. The Spider comes, what, 2 years later? I don't really see what some are moaning about when set against the 2 cars mentioned. Everything else, if the market is there why not. I would imagine McLaren speak with their customers, see if there is an interest for models like the Senna. After all customers asked another 3 seater. PHers were saying it back in the 12C days.
I would agree that something different would be nice.... a front engined, 2 or 2+2 coupe for a another option.
mikey k said:
Onehp said:
You do realise the Spider is very late to the party conpared to the other models, and that on those previous models the spiders always did better keeping their value. So if anything, the delayed 720s introduction helped the coupe residuals!
Not actually true, look at 12C, 650 and 570 model releases.Woking only has two lines so tend do run the coupe for a couple of years then switch to the spider, then the "light weights" before changing the line to the replacement model.
Getting a 570 coupe built is nigh on impossible now, it would be hard to order a 570 spider, that line is currently on 600LT
The other line on 720, which will become 720 spider next year.
Sideways Si.
As I mentioned, limited edition cars is what McLaren do. The two models announced recently add up to about 180 cars.
This new 720 Spyder, which follows the pattern of previous models, was always going to happen.
I'm sure we can expect an LT version some time soon. Also I'm sure that when the LT is announced you and the other idiots who seem to want to knock McLaren for trying to grow their company will be hitting their keyboard with stupid remarks.
If your post was meant to be a joke, try posting your 'jokes' on the Sean Connery thread.
Good for McLaren for giving their customers a choice of cars.
Instead of knocking them, how about supporting this growing company that is bringing much needed money into our country along with adding to the prestige of 'Brand Britain' as we head into Brexit.
As I mentioned, limited edition cars is what McLaren do. The two models announced recently add up to about 180 cars.
This new 720 Spyder, which follows the pattern of previous models, was always going to happen.
I'm sure we can expect an LT version some time soon. Also I'm sure that when the LT is announced you and the other idiots who seem to want to knock McLaren for trying to grow their company will be hitting their keyboard with stupid remarks.
If your post was meant to be a joke, try posting your 'jokes' on the Sean Connery thread.
Good for McLaren for giving their customers a choice of cars.
Instead of knocking them, how about supporting this growing company that is bringing much needed money into our country along with adding to the prestige of 'Brand Britain' as we head into Brexit.
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