RE: Audi RS2 vs. SEAT Leon ST Cupra Carbon Edition
Discussion
phumy said:
Bluesmurff09 said:
Arnt the S2 published performance figures meant to be a touch conservitive? Ive read loads of articles which say that the S2 was actually alot quicker than published figures suggest.
"R" S2, theres a very big difference in that R 16second 1/4 mile for the RS2 is shocking.
Edited by Ahbefive on Saturday 24th November 10:32
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KPB1973 said:
I have a 4drive 300ST similar to this. Brilliant car - sure it has its flaws (it is a touch aloof, the gearbox is too aggressive in auto mode in anything other than Comfort, and the optional bucket seats are too high) but it is very quick, incredibly sure-footed and well appointed.
Plus it seems to be well below the radar compared to its Golf R and S3 siblings.
Mpg will easily reach high 30s on a run, or high 20s around the doors. Mine is tuned and has an epic mid-range on top of impressive initial traction.
It's one of those cars that do so many things well that I struggle to know what i'd change it for.
Plus it seems to be well below the radar compared to its Golf R and S3 siblings.
Mpg will easily reach high 30s on a run, or high 20s around the doors. Mine is tuned and has an epic mid-range on top of impressive initial traction.
It's one of those cars that do so many things well that I struggle to know what i'd change it for.
Fast and Spurious said:
SydneyBridge said:
The RS2 proved a good investment, any for sale are mostly higher than the price when new
Higher than £90k? Plus 25 years of running costs? I don't think so.So effectively you got the car for only the cost of running it. That said most who bought new probably experienced massive depreciation, it's those who picked them up when they were 10 years old who made the money.
Welshbeef said:
Welshbeef said:
Did someone say RS2’s are £90k WTF. I remember when one MOD here years ago bought one for £12k as a risk for fun and also had an old Range Rover P38.
Not sure he is still a member or has moved to that other car forum??
His name was Garlick username. Not sure he is still a member or has moved to that other car forum??
Edit, not wedding, sold the RS1600i for that
Edited by MDMA . on Saturday 24th November 12:06
Talksteer said:
Adjusted for inflation the RS2 cost the equivalent of £90-100k in today's money.
So effectively you got the car for only the cost of running it. That said most who bought new probably experienced massive depreciation, it's those who picked them up when they were 10 years old who made the money.
Not massive depreciation by any means. After buying my RS2 in 1995, I sold it 5 years later for 72% of list price. I regret it now, but being a new Dad I didn't want to risk baby spew on my blue Alcantara. So effectively you got the car for only the cost of running it. That said most who bought new probably experienced massive depreciation, it's those who picked them up when they were 10 years old who made the money.
Fast forward to Sep this year and I took delivery of a Carbon Edition to recapture the fun I had in the RS. And best of all, that same "baby" will be driving it in a few years' time when he can afford to insure it. Till then I'll drive it almost daily, just like the RS. Happy days.
Great to see photos of the 2 together.
The thing which really shows here is how BIG modern cars are. In 1994, the RS2 was a fairly big car, certianly larger than the golf and gold estate of the time. The seat just looks massive in comparison, taller, wider, longer although nothing in it weight wise. I wish manufacturers would start building cars that don't look so bloated and are a little more delicate, the same goes for interiors as well.
howardhughes said:
In thirty years time no one would give that Cupra a second look. That's if it hasn't been recycled by then.
I would take that Audi now AND in another thirty years time.
You do know that Seat made a Leon Cupra R back in 2002 ?I would take that Audi now AND in another thirty years time.
Still has a following, as does the second gen model, enthusiasts still notice these cars, no reason why the new one wont still be desirable in years to come,
The Audi is a much more expensive, low volume model, the point is that with progress, the modern lower rung car matches the older high end model.
ChezzaV8 said:
The thing which really shows here is how BIG modern cars are. In 1994, the RS2 was a fairly big car, certianly larger than the golf and gold estate of the time. The seat just looks massive in comparison, taller, wider, longer although nothing in it weight wise. I wish manufacturers would start building cars that don't look so bloated and are a little more delicate, the same goes for interiors as well.
Its 5cm longer, 10cm wider and 3cm taller, i wouldnt call that massively bigger. Oh and its lighter.Interesting discussion here, as I have owned my RS2 now for over 11 years. I do have a vested interested as mine is up for sale here and I will probably regret letting it go. This car used to be my daily for about the first 5 years and I know that some are still being used as a dailies. They are immensely practical, reliable, comfortable cars and once the turbo is blowing they are intoxicating to drive. Fuel consumption is actually quite good compared to other performance cars at 22mpg. My BMW M2 does roughly 25mpg! If you factor in no depreciation and perhaps long term maintenance costs of £1000 per year then depending on your mileage it could make sense as a daily still.
DGrossmith said:
Interesting discussion here, as I have owned my RS2 now for over 11 years. I do have a vested interested as mine is up for sale here and I will probably regret letting it go. This car used to be my daily for about the first 5 years and I know that some are still being used as a dailies. They are immensely practical, reliable, comfortable cars and once the turbo is blowing they are intoxicating to drive. Fuel consumption is actually quite good compared to other performance cars at 22mpg. My BMW M2 does roughly 25mpg! If you factor in no depreciation and perhaps long term maintenance costs of £1000 per year then depending on your mileage it could make sense as a daily still.
Here here! I am also an RS2 owner and used mine daily for a while, absolutely incredible in the snow (with snow tyres fitted), very practical and the interior is superb, especially in comparison with newer cars. Brilliantly usable classic with a super cool Q factor!blade7 said:
The RS2 didn't come with 968 CS wheels fitted. I looked for an RS2 a few years ago, and was put off by the questionable history of the few cars on the open market. The good ones tended to sell quickly on the Audi RS forums.
Yes they did. 17" in silver. Have my original brochure still. It was called Avant RS2 as opposed to RS2 Avant and the blue was called RS Blue not Nogaro although they may be the same colour in reality. I got a Nogaro RS4 after before a Sprint Blue RS6plus. All could fit in my garage, but the Cupra Carbon is a tighter squeeze.
Pshtnheedz said:
blade7 said:
The RS2 didn't come with 968 CS wheels fitted. I looked for an RS2 a few years ago, and was put off by the questionable history of the few cars on the open market. The good ones tended to sell quickly on the Audi RS forums.
Yes they did. 17" in silver. Have my original brochure still. It was called Avant RS2 as opposed to RS2 Avant and the blue was called RS Blue not Nogaro although they may be the same colour in reality. I got a Nogaro RS4 after before a Sprint Blue RS6plus. All could fit in my garage, but the Cupra Carbon is a tighter squeeze.Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff