RE: Startup reveals 765hp electric pick-up

RE: Startup reveals 765hp electric pick-up

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anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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300bhp/ton said:
Nanook said:
fblm said:
I've 2 observations; everyone I know with a pickup uses it to tow and launch boats; what happens if you dunk an EV power train in 2ft of salt water? Secondly IMO the ''typical'' pickup truck owner is just about the last person on earth who is going to switch to electric, it's a big old market though I guess.
From the article:

"There's also a wading depth of up to one metre"
I suspect the more pertinent question is, how many times can it be dunked until it leaks. And when it does, how well protected are the electronics inside. And how easy to replace.
I must admit I missed the wading depth. In the event of the high voltage stuff getting wet/shorting I was thinking more of it killing someone rather than how to fix it!

Wrt towing I suspect the suspension will be the limiting factor; doesn't look like a live rear axle so probably no more than 8000lb ish...

tr3a

494 posts

228 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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Talksteer said:
There is a section of Coal Rollin gun toting Trump voters who will not buy an electric car for culture war reasons. These people still have iPhones.
rofl

About a decade after those who really make their living with a pick up truck buy these things because they can run their power tools and electric chain saws off the built-in 110/240V outlets all day and still get home fine, the hillbillies will start having second thoughts.

OverSteery

3,613 posts

232 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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bakerstreet said:

Its a brave company to try and compete with the likes of the Ford F150 and Silverado etc etc.
Maybe, but the don't really need to compete as such. Its a huge market, they just need to a take a few %age 'niche' share I would guess.

DonkeyApple

55,408 posts

170 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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Talksteer said:
So far the first electric Luxury car became the best selling luxury car, the first premium executive electric car became the best selling premium electric car.

There is a section of Coal Rollin gun toting Trump voters who will not buy an electric car for culture war reasons. These people still have iPhones.

However as pickup trucks are the best selling cars in the US it indicates that there is likely a diverse range of people buying them. If you have a product which is crazy fast, really good off road and looks distinctive you will find a market.

Once you start showing YouTube video's of it pulling an F150 backwards up a snow covered hill then maybe a lot of the electric vehicle sceptic's might come around to it.

Currently the F150 sized trucks sell at an average of $55,000 so there is plenty of people with the money for the next big status symbol.
Oh there is definitely logic but that type of logic isn’t a common commodity among God’s people.

The logic is that a chap could generate all his own power on his luxury ranch and drive his lovely EV pick-up over rough tracks into town for free. But then there is the other logic that suggests that it would be more sensible to buy a V8 truck and not risk being lynched for being a homo, pinko SOB.

Maybe a concerted campaign highlighting that Jesus would drive an EV pick-up while also explaining that petrol pick-ups are the tool of Satan’s people in the Middle East might help? Or pitching it as the real man’s mobility scooter?

Like most EVs it will find buyers within an hour or two’s drive of salt water but it’s hard to imagine God’s chosen people, those gifted with the diabeetees and a deep, sensual love of livestock not being terrified and angry at the desecration of God’s preferred freedom fries transporter.

rxe

6,700 posts

104 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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This I like. Especially if they do one with a van back, like a Defender.

The real question is what is the range when towing a 3 tonne trailer. I suspect it will be atrocious, even with the mega pack.

VEX

5,256 posts

247 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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I really like that, if they could give it a 1 Tonne payload, It might just fall under the standard pickup rules for business use and tax.

tgx

147 posts

151 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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Impressive. I wonder how much 'roadkill' increases once we are all swooshing around in EV's.


groundcontrol

1,539 posts

192 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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Echoing sentiments above really, this seems swell but 765hp? That'll be lethal in the hands of most of the great unwashed. Plus arguably a little bit pointless, if they made a version with half the power but double the range I'd be much more interested (although I appreciate I know zero EV science and it probably isn't this simple).

Exige77

6,518 posts

192 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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GranCab said:
The photos all look like CGIs ... does it actually exist in the metal ?
https://youtu.be/H7XqPB6-NSA

GT119

6,672 posts

173 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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cptsideways said:
I'm all for EV's but do the maths, the UK's current public charging network has a fastest charging rate of 50kwh do the maths on cars with big batteries, that's a lot of time it will be on charge.

Or about a week on a 3kwh domestic plug.
I've just diversified into maths tutoring and I'm looking for new customers.

jjwilde

1,904 posts

97 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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300bhp/ton said:
Pretty sure you'd need a different licence to drive them in the UK. The B licence entitles you to drive a vehicle to 3500kg.
Government are currently making EVs exempt from this.

Tesla should just buy this company and mass produce this thing now. It's a glorious absolute unit of a pickup!

jjwilde

1,904 posts

97 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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GT119 said:
I've just diversified into maths tutoring and I'm looking for new customers.
It would take about 2 days to charge the 400+ mile version from a 3.3 plug but just under a day on a regular (free) home charger.

8 hours on a decent on street charger.

An hour or so on a rapid charger (160kw is what it supports) to 90%.

J4CKO

41,632 posts

201 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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Four motors, one per wheel, am no off roading expert and I know its just one factor, but doesnt that mean that it should be very capable off road as drive is infinitely variable between between each wheel ?

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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DonkeyApple said:
Oh there is definitely logic but that type of logic isn’t a common commodity among God’s people.

The logic is that a chap could generate all his own power on his luxury ranch and drive his lovely EV pick-up over rough tracks into town for free. But then there is the other logic that suggests that it would be more sensible to buy a V8 truck and not risk being lynched for being a homo, pinko SOB.

Maybe a concerted campaign highlighting that Jesus would drive an EV pick-up while also explaining that petrol pick-ups are the tool of Satan’s people in the Middle East might help? Or pitching it as the real man’s mobility scooter?

Like most EVs it will find buyers within an hour or two’s drive of salt water but it’s hard to imagine God’s chosen people, those gifted with the diabeetees and a deep, sensual love of livestock not being terrified and angry at the desecration of God’s preferred freedom fries transporter.
hehe
Most of them still haven't got over the Raptor moving from a V8 to a more powerful V6!

ducnick

1,795 posts

244 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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That looks epic. I would buy one at £50k in a heart beat. Just make sure that front trunk is big enough for a Honda generator, chuck a couple of 5L Jerry cans in the bed and you are free to go off grid.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

191 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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jjwilde said:
Government are currently making EVs exempt from this.
Interesting thanks. Not sure I can see the logic behind it. Do you have a link to more info on this?

gigglebug

2,611 posts

123 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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300bhp/ton said:
jjwilde said:
Government are currently making EVs exempt from this.
Interesting thanks. Not sure I can see the logic behind it. Do you have a link to more info on this?
In America presumably not the Uk?

gigglebug

2,611 posts

123 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.activacontracts...

The incentive is to make the payloads the same by allowing more weight to be carried to offset the increased weight of the battery powertrain by the look of things.

Would have to be vehicles registered for business use only by the looks of things?

Edited by gigglebug on Monday 26th November 19:57

GranCab

2,902 posts

147 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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Exige77 said:
GranCab said:
The photos all look like CGIs ... does it actually exist in the metal ?
https://youtu.be/H7XqPB6-NSA
Thanks for the link .... it looks good in real life too.

Now they need to develop a Range Rover rival on that platform and flog it at 50% more than the truck.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

255 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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Looks like a beast.

500 mile range is massive for UK/NZ.
You can literally do the length of the south island NZ on that.

Even towing something big if it halves the range you can do London to Manchester or something with plenty spare.

By 2020 there should be a solid 150/350kw charging network in Europe which will charge this pretty quickly.

For the US? from what I understand the DC fast charge network is poor, 500 mile range isnt bad but distances are huge and people regularly tow things for 1000+ miles.

It'll suit some people, do a days work including site power etc. wont suit the real long distance haulers.

Oh and only a 4.5ft bed, that will disappointing some.