RE: Eighth generation Porsche 911 officially unveiled
Discussion
I like it. I'm not sure on the full width rear light and I didn't like it on the 991.2.
It is interesting that Porsche have included a carbon roof in the configurator. I have just specced a 992 2wd S @ £115k on the configurator and a similar 991.2 GTS is £117k, although the GTS is slightly better specced.
It is interesting that Porsche have included a carbon roof in the configurator. I have just specced a 992 2wd S @ £115k on the configurator and a similar 991.2 GTS is £117k, although the GTS is slightly better specced.
ditchvisitor said:
It’s bloody massive and not for me, £100k+ is mental!!! I think I will stick with my 20 year old 996 GT3....
For a fun car, certainly, but as a contemporary, do-it-all, every day sports car, the 992 looks to be perfect. I'm really liking the new dash shape too, although I'm not entirely sold on the tacho.As with the GT cars, there are arguments about how and why the previous generations are 'better' - lighter, more compact, more analogue - but in reality, we'd all be slating Porsche for sitting on their arses if the current offerings were unchanged. The competition and industry moves forward (not always in a useful direction, in terms of additional, necessary weight) and so the 911 has to evolve.
I don't understand the direction the 911 is going in. I mean electric door handles? Wood interior (as a launch spec)? Enormous screens everywhere? Capacitive buttons? I understand all of this on a luxury saloon/SUV/gt type cars, but not on a sports car. It just adds weight. Notice how the weight wasn't mentioned anywhere in the press? That is very worrying when you are supposedly dealing with a sports car. This 911 is basically now a modern 928/968. Why don't porsche just make a luxury 2+2, and keep the 911 focused? I just don't get it. Its not as if the 911 is the money maker in the company, so they can afford to keep the 911 more focused and sacrifice a few sales, but at least Porsche could keep its credibility of being a sports car manufacturer. Now its just a barge builder. I really wanted to like this, but its not a 911 anymore.
Nearly always driven by Milfs around here and the ones that aren't seem to be old geezers. Not that there's anything wrong in that but I' m sure they're bought more with their GT credentials in mind rather than their sports ones.
This does seem to be a rather lazy update. The studio guys have the easiest job in the world....
This does seem to be a rather lazy update. The studio guys have the easiest job in the world....
Not a porsche fan, but I am curious about its size.
How does this compare with the average parking space? If you were to park up in a typical standard sized car park, will you have any trouble (real world, not fantasy)? Will you be able to open your doors with another similar sized car (911?) parked next to you? Will you expect to come back to your flash new 911 with dings in the nice new duco?
I only ask because it's one of my pet hates that it seems like so many people today don't care about car parked next to them. Just yesterday I saw a kid get out of the back of some big SUV thing and literally smash the door open against the cars next to them. Dad gets out, looks at the car, shrugs his shoulders, and continues about his day.
2 seconds later, the owner of the car next to them turns up hurling abuse, and it all kicks off.
Not great.
Is that what might be in store for the owner of a wide-ish new 911? Or is it that this car is roughly the same size as the outgoing one, and so abuse hurling remains a standard part of its product feature and daily regimen to be looked forward to?
Frankly, I can do without the aggro.
How does this compare with the average parking space? If you were to park up in a typical standard sized car park, will you have any trouble (real world, not fantasy)? Will you be able to open your doors with another similar sized car (911?) parked next to you? Will you expect to come back to your flash new 911 with dings in the nice new duco?
I only ask because it's one of my pet hates that it seems like so many people today don't care about car parked next to them. Just yesterday I saw a kid get out of the back of some big SUV thing and literally smash the door open against the cars next to them. Dad gets out, looks at the car, shrugs his shoulders, and continues about his day.
2 seconds later, the owner of the car next to them turns up hurling abuse, and it all kicks off.
Not great.
Is that what might be in store for the owner of a wide-ish new 911? Or is it that this car is roughly the same size as the outgoing one, and so abuse hurling remains a standard part of its product feature and daily regimen to be looked forward to?
Frankly, I can do without the aggro.
Edited by big_rob_sydney on Wednesday 28th November 10:41
cypriot said:
I don't understand the direction the 911 is going in. I mean electric door handles? Wood interior (as a launch spec)? Enormous screens everywhere? Capacitive buttons? I understand all of this on a luxury saloon/SUV/gt type cars, but not on a sports car. It just adds weight. Notice how the weight wasn't mentioned anywhere in the press? That is very worrying when you are supposedly dealing with a sports car. This 911 is basically now a modern 928/968. Why don't porsche just make a luxury 2+2, and keep the 911 focused? I just don't get it. Its not as if the 911 is the money maker in the company, so they can afford to keep the 911 more focused and sacrifice a few sales, but at least Porsche could keep its credibility of being a sports car manufacturer. Now its just a barge builder. I really wanted to like this, but its not a 911 anymore.
Speaking of which, when do we get to see the new Cayman GT4 - with the n/a engine in the middle, a stick between the seats and a £70k price tag? 
you'd have to be bonkers to not want to own a 911. They are incredibly rewarding to drive. Brooking10 said:
Audemars said:
So ugly. Why is this car even being talked about this day and age. Should have become extinct many decades ago.
Because lots of people buy them and they are really rather good.Take it you won’t be adding an imaginary one to the imaginary garage then ?
I had another drive in a 991.2 C2S a couple of weekends ago. They are stunning cars to drive. Not lighting fast, he was more surprised with the performance of mine, than I was of his, but the 991 is a truly fabulous car. That one cost my pal £82k at 2yrs old, still a lot of car for the money and holding value well.
Up the ante to a GTS, GT3, etc and the ability to impress goes stratospheric.
janesmith1950 said:
It's all about the arse.
From rear quarter view, it now looks like they've grafted a small car, up the rear of the doors, to a much larger one from there back.
From rear quarter view, it now looks like they've grafted a small car, up the rear of the doors, to a much larger one from there back.
that sums it up perfectly. Probably not helped by there being no narrow body version.
The rear quarter view definitely doesn’t look like a coherent design.
I’m sure they’ll sell loads of them though.
cypriot said:
I don't understand the direction the 911 is going in. I mean electric door handles? Wood interior (as a launch spec)? Enormous screens everywhere? Capacitive buttons? I understand all of this on a luxury saloon/SUV/gt type cars, but not on a sports car. It just adds weight. Notice how the weight wasn't mentioned anywhere in the press? That is very worrying when you are supposedly dealing with a sports car. This 911 is basically now a modern 928/968. Why don't porsche just make a luxury 2+2, and keep the 911 focused? I just don't get it. Its not as if the 911 is the money maker in the company, so they can afford to keep the 911 more focused and sacrifice a few sales, but at least Porsche could keep its credibility of being a sports car manufacturer. Now its just a barge builder. I really wanted to like this, but its not a 911 anymore.
This is a base model (may end up as second to base), There will be 7 models above this bringing greater 'sportscar' focus and feel, as there has always been.Not everyone wants a stripped out racer as a daily driver.
I'm very glad to see a 'wet' mode. Given Porsche seem to be supplying their new cars with Pirelli P Zeros which are as much use in the wet as an ashtray on a motorbike, I assume this mode will limit it to about 80 bhp. My partners 991 4S is frightening in the wet the tyres are so useless. The 997 4S it replaced was on Michelins and worked perfectly in the wet, and was nicer in the dry too. So I am glad to see they are addressing this issue, but it would have been a damn sight easier for them just to fit some Pilot Sport 4Ss!
On the looks. Like the front, jury out on the back until I see one in the metal.
On the looks. Like the front, jury out on the back until I see one in the metal.
Edited by PaulD86 on Wednesday 28th November 11:05
Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff