The Ford Bronco (probably) launch thread

[jagfan2]

unsprung said:

If the new Defender has left you wanting something a bit less metrosexual...

The new Ford Bronco is anticipated to offer a choice of manual transmission as well as 33-inch tyres.

article here
https://www.tflcar.com/2019/09/report-2021-ford-br...

Yeah the defender only comes with 815mm/32" tyres , off road as a low cost option, which means if you can get them outside the US you can probably fit 838/33" . You do get an archaic wobbly body on frame chassis and live axles thrown in for free too

[NomduJour]

jagfan2 said:

You do get an archaic wobbly body on frame chassis and live axles thrown in for free too

You get independent front suspension, because it’s a Ranger in retro drag.

[unsprung]

jagfan2 said:

Yeah the defender only comes with 815mm/32" tyres , off road as a low cost option, which means if you can get them outside the US you can probably fit 838/33" . You do get an archaic wobbly body on frame chassis and live axles thrown in for free too

Hi there. I may have been hasty in making my comparison, but the new Defender design seemed, at launch, just a bit too self conscious. A slight sense of being out on the town.

I hope that it proves a good money spinner for JLR. That it's reliable. And I look forward to seeing the various iterations and colours, running about.

[aeropilot]

unsprung said:

Also leaked today is what is claimed to be the main Bronco.

Take my money now if this is what it will be like......and they bring it to the UK in RHD.

[300bhp/ton]

jagfan2 said:

unsprung said:

If the new Defender has left you wanting something a bit less metrosexual...

The new Ford Bronco is anticipated to offer a choice of manual transmission as well as 33-inch tyres.

article here
https://www.tflcar.com/2019/09/report-2021-ford-br...

Yeah the defender only comes with 815mm/32" tyres , off road as a low cost option, which means if you can get them outside the US you can probably fit 838/33" . You do get an archaic wobbly body on frame chassis and live axles thrown in for free too

The Defender comes with a crappy tyre size though, as in few tyres to choose from and very limited supply and treads. And as for adding bigger tyres, maybe. But with air suspension and independent suspension it is likely to be limited on what you can do tyre wise. Just as it is with any other modern Land Rover in the past 15 years.

[RATATTAK]

All the latest here

https://www.caradvice.com.au/833621/2021-ford-bron...

[unsprung]

Ford says it will officially reveal the Bronco this month (March) and Bronco Sport next month. The former could happen at any moment now.


4 THINGS TO LOOK FOR
AT THE REVEAL OF BRONCO

1. Hints about the future

A product chart appeared online -- displaying Ford products by region through 2021 (and nothing thereafter). On that chart, neither Bronco nor Bronco Sport are in Europe. When asked about Bronco in Europe after 2021, Ford declined to comment. Let’s see if Ford imply Europe (or other regions) in the deluge of information that will come during the official Bronco reveal.

2. Shared components

If Bronco begins its first model year (2021) in the US with engines and transmissions that are used by Ford in other parts of the world, this would not be a bad thing. Ford has said that Bronco may have a type of off-road navigation system -- one that sounds rather like that fitted already to Ranger Raptor outside the US. Of course, the use of shared components is no guarantee of anything. But it could offer some hope. In some instances, the same may be said for components that differ but which can be said to be "in the family".

3. Symmetrical design

While not an absolute rule, the more that a vehicle appears to be symmetrical, left to right, both inside and out, the more easily one may try to build a case for producing units in both LHD and RHD. This is not always true (engines and steering systems, for example, can place asymmetrical demands on fitment), but it’s a start. It will be interesting to see if Bronco in LHD looks like the sort of thing that might naturally lend itself to a sibling in RHD.

4. Consumer demand

Will Ford find a keen audience in Europe during the first year of Bronco in America? Or will there be mostly indifference? Governments in Europe would seem to be lowering the boom on motoring for fun, initiating some of the world’s most ambitious goals for reducing automobile emissions and even the automobile itself. Still, there’s a lot of time between now and then. And even Bronco is supposed to have a hybrid variant eventually (so says Ford).

[808 Estate]

unsprung said:

Well that looks st even compared to the diluted Mk2 renderings.


Another soya latte when we needed a double espresso

[unsprung]

808 Estate said:

unsprung said:

Well that looks st even compared to the diluted Mk2 renderings.


Another soya latte when we needed a double espresso

You may be misunderstanding.

The top photo in your reply has been widely publicised, but not confirmed, as a near-production-ready example of the two-door Bronco -- a body-on-frame vehicle with (at least) a live rear axle. Like many people, I believe it looks more than good. Design cues of the Early Bronco are well integrated and capability for very favourable approach and departure looks likely.

The bottom photo is an unofficial artist's rendering posted to this thread by PHer RATATTAK who claimed to have been "reliably informed" that it's a close approximation of the baby Bronco. Officially called Bronco Sport, this smaller vehicle has been thought to be a four-door unibody, partially shared with Ford Kuga, that features a fully-independent suspension.

ETA: See my posts of Monday for the "leaks" which supposedly reveal photographs of Bronco Sport and, later that same day, Bronco. Two separate posts. Again, there have been no confirmations from Ford. All we can say is: Ford has promised to reveal Bronco this month (March) and Bronco Sport next month.

Edited by unsprung on Wednesday 11th March 01:10

[sealtt]

aeropilot said:

unsprung said:

Also leaked today is what is claimed to be the main Bronco.

Take my money now if this is what it will be like......and they bring it to the UK in RHD.

Absolutely, very cool

[300bhp/ton]

808 Estate said:

unsprung said:

Well that looks st even compared to the diluted Mk2 renderings.


Another soya latte when we needed a double espresso

Maybe you need to Google what an EB (Early Bronco) looks like. If this new one resembles that top photo, it will likely be a great modern take on it.

[unsprung]

Yet more is leaked just now, of Bronco. In general, the design continues to look pleasing: both contemporary and with elements of heritage.

article here
https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/future-cars/...

[unsprung]

Coronavirus presents both challenge and opportunity for Ford, at this time, when they intend to launch Bronco.

The challenge is: Ford cannot count on a large in-person audience during the unveiling of this vehicle. Even if they could muster employees to build a live audience, Ford might look irresponsible to do so.

The opportunity could be:

Ford may use the most advanced online solutions to create a live global audience much as Chevrolet did with the unveiling of the C8 Corvette. That product, the C8, was destined for a number of markets outside the US -- while, at the moment, Bronco appears to be US, Canada, and Middle East only.

Nevertheless, the corporate folks at Ford could earn significant kudos by creating an impressive launch that blends elements of stage craft with those of mass-market online performance.

[NomduJour]

Why so much excitement over a Ranger with a pretty naff retro rebody?

[300bhp/ton]

NomduJour said:

Why so much excitement over a Ranger with a pretty naff retro rebody?

And yet you couldn’t stop wetting yourself over the Pretender in every thread for the past 2 years.

[satans worm]

Just looks too much like a Jeep Wrangler to me, not enough bronco look to make it different

[808 Estate]

300bhp/ton said:

Maybe you need to Google what an EB (Early Bronco) looks like. If this new one resembles that top photo, it will likely be a great modern take on it.

I know what early Broncos look like. The early ones are quite long behind the front door. Not short like a Landy 90 or the version in the post above.

[aeropilot]

808 Estate said:

300bhp/ton said:

Maybe you need to Google what an EB (Early Bronco) looks like. If this new one resembles that top photo, it will likely be a great modern take on it.

I know what early Broncos look like. The early ones are quite long behind the front door. Not short like a Landy 90 or the version in the post above.

Err...........

[300bhp/ton]

808 Estate said:

300bhp/ton said:

Maybe you need to Google what an EB (Early Bronco) looks like. If this new one resembles that top photo, it will likely be a great modern take on it.

I know what early Broncos look like. The early ones are quite long behind the front door. Not short like a Landy 90 or the version in the post above.

Are you being mental???

That pic shows a vehicle of very similar size to a Defender 90. In length, width and wheelbase. And does indeed have a short section behind the rear door. No idea what you are on about tbh.

Edited by 300bhp/ton on Thursday 12th March 15:07

[RATATTAK]

300bhp/ton said:

Are you being mental???

That pic shows a vehicle of very similar size to a Defender 90. In length, width and wheelbase. And does indeed have a short section behind the rear door. No idea what you are on about tbh.

Hope you don't mind but I think this is what you meant to say