RE: TVR production likely delayed by factory setback

[coppice]

The words red and herring spring to mind . I use to do lots of EU procurement and it really isn't such a big deal at all. The timetables are nothing like as burdensome as TVR told Autocar and as for advertising 'across the whole EU' all that is needed is a proforma e- advert which can be done in a few minutes with the click of a mouse . That is it

In reality 'foreign ' bids are not that common but so what if one comes in better ? TVR seem happy enough to buy an engine from the USA and not a JLR or even Merc V8 . Bit rich to take taxpayers money and then moan about rules which are routine - if they don't like it they can use their own money and employ Dai the brickie .

[Housey]

Tuvra said:

Having owned two of the above, I can confirm neither would "eat a GT3 for breakfast"

Hilarious that this myth is still out there isn't it, after this long.

[Housey]

RiknRoll said:

Sorry but a T350 etc DOES eat a 996 GT3. Simple maths of power to weight ration. They have similar power and the Porsche is about 300kg heavier. The original poster said he had a 996 Gt3. Not a 991....

See above.

Edited by Housey on Tuesday 4th December 19:02

[Housey]

baconsarney said:

Never mind the factory setback stuff, lets have more of the my GT3 is quicker than your/any TVR - no it isn't - yes it is - your talking bo**cks - must be half term stuff It's properly entertaining... My car is half a second quicker to sixty than yours which must make me more manly/powerfully built/wealthy/a better driver/etc............ Jeez I hope none of us ever grow up

Takes us oldens back to the good old days

FT2007 was superb, all the TVR owners were magnanimous in their defeat at the hands of my GT3 but be clear, none of the standard cars could top it be it side by side or in times. Be clear also it surprised me as it did the 996 Turbo owner who realised the big debate back in the day about how much quicker the turbo was also bks.

It started miles better, the Tiv's started to come back then around 140mph the aero took over and the GT3 usually started to pull out again. These are facts, tested hard and well. Times don't lie and my car was dynode at 383bhp against 381bhp stated.

[Autodesign]

It’s interesting to watch the light bulbs gradually being turned on !

[cerb4.5lee]

This should be a thread about TVR and not bloody VW's! Bore off with all the beetle talk!

[anonymous-user]

You got to love the internet, where two cars, driven by different people, once, and one beats the other by a whole 30 milliseconds equates to "eaten alive"... Using that metric, could i just point out that TVRs and Porsches are clearly both total crap as they are "eaten alive" by a 25 year old mazda...... ;-)

[Housey]

cerb4.5lee said:

This should be a thread about TVR and not bloody VW's! Bore off with all the beetle talk!

I've got one of them TT's with a V10 now, so not longer a V......oh, wait.

[Housey]

Max_Torque said:

You got to love the internet, where two cars, driven by different people, once, and one beats the other by a whole 30 milliseconds equates to "eaten alive"... Using that metric, could i just point out that TVRs and Porsches are clearly both total crap as they are "eaten alive" by a 25 year old mazda...... ;-)

Irony is, the ones doing the 'eating alive' lost




I bought 2 Mazda's off the back of this too, but both are MUCH slower so I suspect that RX7 was a cheater.

[cerb4.5lee]

Housey said:

cerb4.5lee said:

This should be a thread about TVR and not bloody VW's! Bore off with all the beetle talk!

I've got one of them TT's with a V10 now, so not longer a V......oh, wait.

[Taffy66]

biggles330d said:

From what I've heard of the Welsh Government though I shouldn't be surprised. Competence isn't a word naturally associated with them.

As a proud and patriotic welshman i'm absolutely ashamed on the way the WAG is run..It is without doubt the most incompetent, useless and wasteful organisation yet created by the human race..They seem to be run by a bunch of greedy self centred AMs rathe like a giant pigsty full of pigs.
After many years of having to deal with the WAG i empathise with TVR despite acknowledging the fact that i could have predicted these totally avoidable delays..
I wish TVR all the best of luck as their going to need it..!

[IMI A]

Housey said:

RiknRoll said:

Housey said:

I would never call my 996 GT3 bland, boring or something granny could drive to the shops. Quicker than any TVR yes, but never bland

Tosh. A 996 GT3 gets eaten for breakfast in a straight line by the Sagaris, Tuscan, T350, Tamora, and Cerbera. Not saying its a bland car, nor a bad one at all... just that it's not as quick as many TVR's.

GranCab said:

RiknRoll said:

Tosh. A 996 GT3 gets eaten for breakfast in a straight line by the Sagaris, Tuscan, T350, Tamora, and Cerbera.

School's out early today .....

Ah it takes me back to 2007....just before Fighting Torque.....suggest he goes and reads and then comes back for further excuses..

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

He can be a fanboy as much as he may like, make silly childish and ill informed comments, but facts will always outweighs ignorance. I used to run TVR too, but I have the objectiveness gene still in place and working.

Let me help....

1 7 adrian w Noble M400 23.49
2 16 LuckyP Ultima GTR 23.8
3 4 Yorkshire Porsche 997 Turbo 23.94
4 91 Mr Harris Lamborghini 24.03
5 6 jasonsear Nissan GTR R34 24.36

1 - adrian w - Noble M400 - 173.2 - 1
2 - Mr Harris - Lamborghini - 172.33 - 4
3 - Yorkshire - Porsche 997 Turbo - 169.52 - 3
4 - Blkrokt - Porsche 996 TT - 166.31 - 6
5 - LuckyP - Ultima GTR - 165.51 - 2

Edited by Housey on Tuesday 4th December 21:23

Its interesting looking at those old times and terminal velocities over 3/4 miles to see how far tuners have moved the game forward. With mild bolt ons 997 turbos are running 165mph to 175mph in only 1/2 mile nowadays and 200mph within a standing mile! All with very good reliability.

My comment re TVR is what happens when they reach a corner or have to slow down from those sort of speeds like at Bedford Autodrome GT Circuit where I'm hitting 165/170mph on the straight over multiple laps .Fast in straight line means very little. Still fun though

[Housey]

RickyRoller seems to have pissed off. Surprised, he seemed so sure

[HarryW]

Housey said:

Ah it takes me back to 2007....just before Fighting Torque.....suggest he goes and reads and then comes back for further excuses..

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

He can be a fanboy as much as he may like, make silly childish and ill informed comments, but facts will always outweighs ignorance. I used to run TVR too, but I have the objectiveness gene still in place and working.

Let me help....

1 7 adrian w Noble M400 23.49
2 16 LuckyP Ultima GTR 23.8
3 4 Yorkshire Porsche 997 Turbo 23.94
4 91 Mr Harris Lamborghini 24.03
5 6 jasonsear Nissan GTR R34 24.36
6 9 Blkrokt Porsche 996 TT 24.39
7 26 Twerlie Noble M12 24.64
8 11 Songman3 Corvette C6-ZD6 24.64
9 2 phatgixer Mercedes SL65 AMG 24.78
10 20 kenny0811 Porsche 996 Turbo 24.82
11 33 paulsearle Lambo Murci. 24.92
12 8 tinker27 Mazda RX7 24.97
13 46 cbj GD427 Euro 25.26
14 37 Mr Noble Noble M12 GTO3R 25.27
15 18 Brummiewedge TVR Cerbera LS2 25.32
16 5 DMC GT-500 Evolution 25.33
17 77 NickCCC TVR Cerbera 25.55
18 49 Housemaster Porsche 996 GT3 MKII 25.58
19 30 henna777 Porsche 997 GT3 25.58
20 69 daddysumo Noble M12 GTO 3R 25.7
21 10 acrman Viper SRT Coupe 25.72
22 50 nelly1 TVR Tuscan 25.79
23 31 Focused TVR Cerbera 25.8
24 47 grahamn TVR Cerbera 25.83
25 44 bigblockmark TVR Tuscan S 25.84
26 27 996TurboSean Porsche 996 Turbo 25.86
27 75 Andy RX7 Mazda RX7 25.86
28 21 Flea Fiat Coupé 20v Turbo 25.89
29 55 HarryW TVR Cerbera 25.95
30 32 keithyboy TVR Cerbera 25.98
31 1 Longbow TVR Cerbera 4.2 26.02
32 58 scooper TVR T350c Red Rose 26.03
33 42 KeithW TVR Cerbera 26.19
34 68 Wilder TVR Cerbera 26.21
35 65 pocty Porsche 996 GT3 RS 26.22
36 78 cupra3 Seat Ibiza 26.28
37 54 MadMark TVR Cerbera 4.5LW 26.33
38 51 kippax TVR Tuscan 26.37
39 38 FUBAR TVR Cerbera 26.42
40 3 N GTS Dodge Viper 26.49
41 79 Seasider TVR Griffith 26.55
42 41 satman TVR Cerbera 26.57
43 19 firesafetydave Mercedes E55 26.65
44 48 Funkster Noble GTO 3R 26.72
45 60 R8NAN TVR Cerbera 26.72
46 81 Byker28i TVR Cerbera 26.78
47 64 touching cloth TVR Cerbera 26.81
48 67 Cerberowner TVR Cerbera 26.86
49 66 Luckyone TVR Cerbera 26.95
50 85 VX220T VX220 Turbo 26.98
51 83 Katman TVR Cerbera 27.07
52 63 Timmy2TARs TVR Cerbera 4.5LW 27.09
53 76 toadusmodus TVR Cerbera 4.2 27.12
54 90 JaryJ VW Golf 27.13
55 35 TvrTone TVR Cerbera 27.15
56 39 big arm TVR Cerbera 27.2
57 43 AM04ARO Vauxhall Monaro 27.21
58 86 tbdgriffith500 TVR Griffith 500 27.23
59 40 XTR2Turbo Chevrolet Corvette C6 27.28
60 80 Olly TVR Cerbera 27.29
61 25 speed six TVR Cerbera 27.39
62 45 C8 CDS TVR Cerbera 27.49
63 61 Slarty Bartfast BMW M3CSL 27.53
64 82 maahny BMW M Coupe 27.63
65 62 Cyclone1 BMW 335D M-SPORT 27.68
66 53 Ben2 TVR Tuscan 2 S 27.74
67 72 warpig1 TVR Cerbera Sp Six 27.95
68 34 BLUETHUNDER TVR Cerbera 4.2 27.96
69 29 RussellM TVR Cerbera 27.99
70 74 buzz01 TVR Cerbera 28.06
71 59 jfk1958 TVR Cerbera 28.26
72 84 wfarrell BMW Z3 M Coupe 28.27
73 24 Morgan Monaro 6.0VXR 28.3
74 56 deerhunter Audi RS4 B5 28.37
75 70 RUF123 Mercedes E55 28.4
76 71 timberman Mercedes C32 AMG 28.45
77 23 v66len Holden Capa F-320 28.5
78 36 s4woody BMW M5 E39 28.53
79 88 NO.53 TVR Griffith 28.71
80 17 allblack Audi RS Avant 28.82
81 52 A GTS MG Xpower SV 29.05
82 87 Fatdad Hyundai 30.23
83 57 C3BER TVR Cerbera 4.5 RR 30.33
84 92 Andy Howarth Subaru 30.75
85 22 caretaker Audi RS4 30.93
86 73 Hollowpockets TVR T350 31.06
87 15 Michael Swift Subaru 31.09
88 89 toptotz Seat leon cupra r 31.31
89 28 Alex Harris BMW 330 31.94
90 14 Army Chap Peugeot 32.81

Nicks car wasn't standard, my GT3 was

So, you were saying

Edited by Housey on Tuesday 4th December 21:23

Great times.... I prefer terminal velocity for the reasons I said at the time, it helps remove the idiot behind the wheel and starts.... not forgetting the Cerbera's were an over 10 years old at the time...

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HarryW said:

touching cloth said:

For a slightly different take on things, I went through and picked out the best VMAX for each car (regardless of which run it was done on) and compiled the below - moves this list around a bit with some jumping up. Takes the driver out of the equation a bit because even with a duff launch you might still get up to a good terminal, albeit obviously both a good car and a good launch will yield the better results.

Terminal placing - Name - Car - Vmax reached - Elapsed Placin

1 - adrian w - Noble M400 - 173.2 - 1
2 - Mr Harris - Lamborghini - 172.33 - 4
3 - Yorkshire - Porsche 997 Turbo - 169.52 - 3
4 - Blkrokt - Porsche 996 TT - 166.31 - 6
5 - LuckyP - Ultima GTR - 165.51 - 2
6 - phatgixer - Mercedes SL65 AMG - 164.77 - 9
7 - Songman3 - Corvette C6-ZD6 - 164.17 - 8
8 - kenny0811 - Porsche 996 Turbo - 163.63 - 10
9 - N GTS - Dodge Viper - 162.8 - 41
10 - paulsearle - TVR Twin Turbo Griffith 500 - 162.74 - 11
11 - jasonsear - Nissan GTR R34 - 162.62 - 5
12 - Twerlie - Noble M12 - 162.15 - 7
13 - HarryW - TVR Cerbera - 160.98 - 30
14 - NickCCC - TVR Cerbera - 160.69 - 17
15 - tinker27 - Mazda RX7 - 160 - 12
16 - 996TurboSean - Porsche 996 Turbo - 159.83 - 27
17 - Brummiewedge - TVR Cerbera LS2 - 159.2 - 15
18 - henna777 - Porsche 997 GT3 - 159.2 - 19
19 - keithyboy - TVR Cerbera - 158.75 - 31
20 - Housemaster - Porsche 996 GT3 MKII - 158.02 - 18
21 - Focused - TVR Cerbera - 157.69 - 24
22 - Unknown - Mazda RX7 - 157.25 - 28
23 - acrman - Dodge Viper SRT Coupe - 157.08 - 21
24 - Flea - Fiat Coupé 20v Turbo - 156.31 - 29
25 - Mr Noble - Noble M12 GTO3R - 155.98 - 14
26 - cbj - Gardner Douglas GD427 Euro - 155.88 - 13
27 - MadMark - TVR Cerbera 4.5LW - 155.88 - 38
28 - bigblockmark - TVR Tuscan S - 155.77 - 26
29 - Longbow - TVR Cerbera 4.2 - 155.55 - 32
30 - pocty - Porsche 996 GT3 RS - 155.39 - 36
31 - scooper - TVR T350c Red Rose - 155.28 - 33
32 - nelly1 - TVR Tuscan - 155.07 - 22
33 - Wilder - TVR Cerbera - 155.01 - 35
34 - cupra3 - Seat Ibiza - 154.32 - 37
35 - FUBAR - TVR Cerbera - 154.21 - 40
36 - grahamn - TVR Cerbera - 153.89 - 25
37 - R8NAN - TVR Cerbera - 153.84 - 46
38 - satman - TVR Cerbera - 153.73 - 43
39 - TvrTone - TVR Cerbera - 153.57 - 56
40 - Luckyone - TVR Cerbera - 152.53 - 50
41 - Cerberowner - TVR Cerbera - 152.48 - 49
42 - KeithW - TVR Cerbera - 152.22 - 34
43 - Byker28i - TVR Cerbera - 152.22 - 47
44 - daddysumo - Noble M12 GTO 3R - 150.83 - 20
45 - C8 CDS - TVR Cerbera - 150.83 - 63
46 - touching cloth - TVR Cerbera - 150.78 - 48
47 - firesafetydave - Mercedes E55 - 150.68 - 44
48 - AM04ARO - Vauxhall Monaro - 150.22 - 58
49 - DMC - Ford Shelby GT-500 Evolution - 150.12 - 16
50 - Olly - TVR Cerbera - 150.02 - 61
51 - buzz01 - TVR Cerbera - 149.87 - 71
52 - kippax - TVR Tuscan - 149.77 - 39
53 - Timmy2TARs - TVR Cerbera 4.5LW - 149.72 - 53
54 - toadusmodus - TVR Cerbera 4.2 - 149.72 - 54
55 - big arm - TVR Cerbera - 149.57 - 57
56 - Seasider - TVR Griffith - 149.07 - 42
57 - Slarty Bartfast - BMW M3CSL - 148.87 - 64
58 - jfk1958 - TVR Cerbera - 148.63 - 72
59 - JaryJ - VW Golf - 148.08 - 55
60 - Funkster - Noble GTO 3R - 147.84 - 45
61 - XTR2Turbo - Chevrolet Corvette C6 - 147.35 - 60
62 - speed six - TVR Cerbera - 147.3 - 62
63 - RussellM - TVR Cerbera - 146.82 - 70
64 - tbdgriffith500 - TVR Griffith 500 - 146.58 - 59
65 - warpig1 - TVR Cerbera Speed Six - 146.05 - 68
66 - Katman - TVR Cerbera - 145.77 - 52
67 - Morgan - Vauxhall Monaro 6.0VXR - 145.48 - 74
68 - Ben2 - TVR Tuscan 2 S - 145.29 - 67
69 - VX220T - VX220 Turbo - 145.06 - 51
70 - maahny - BMW M Coupe - 144.68 - 65
71 - BLUETHUNDER - TVR Cerbera 4.2 - 144.59 - 69
72 - deerhunter - Audi RS4 B5 - 144.31 - 75
73 - Cyclone1 - BMW 335D M-SPORT - 143.52 - 66
74 - s4woody - BMW M5 E39 - 143.39 - 79
75 - RUF123 - Mercedes E55 - 142.79 - 76
76 - timberman - Mercedes C32 AMG - 142.61 - 77
77 - NO.53 - TVR Griffith - 141.61 - 80
78 - wfarrell - BMW Z3 M Coupe - 141.53 - 73
79 - v66len - Holden Capa F-320 - 140.5 - 78
80 - allblack - Audi RS Avant - 138.67 - 81
81 - A GTS - MG Xpower SV - 135.93 - 82
82 - Fatdad - Hyundai - 135.03 - 83
83 - Andy Howarth - Subaru - 126.2 - 84
84 - toptotz - Seat leon cupra r - 125.7 - 87
85 - Michael Swift - Subaru - 124.54 - 86
86 - caretaker - Audi RS4 - 124.37 - 85
87 - Alex Harris - BMW 330 - 123.48 - 88
88 - Army Chap - Peugeot - 119.27 - 89

Edited by touching cloth on Monday 13th August 12:07

Much prefer the terminal velocity listing as it removes a fair bit of the idiot behind the wheel letting the car down .

quote=HarryW]

touching cloth said:

For a slightly different take on things, I went through and picked out the best VMAX for each car (regardless of which run it was done on) and compiled the below - moves this list around a bit with some jumping up. Takes the driver out of the equation a bit because even with a duff launch you might still get up to a good terminal, albeit obviously both a good car and a good launch will yield the better results.

Terminal placing - Name - Car - Vmax reached - Elapsed Placin

1 - adrian w - Noble M400 - 173.2 - 1
2 - Mr Harris - Lamborghini - 172.33 - 4
3 - Yorkshire - Porsche 997 Turbo - 169.52 - 3
4 - Blkrokt - Porsche 996 TT - 166.31 - 6
5 - LuckyP - Ultima GTR - 165.51 - 2
6 - phatgixer - Mercedes SL65 AMG - 164.77 - 9
7 - Songman3 - Corvette C6-ZD6 - 164.17 - 8
8 - kenny0811 - Porsche 996 Turbo - 163.63 - 10
9 - N GTS - Dodge Viper - 162.8 - 41
10 - paulsearle - TVR Twin Turbo Griffith 500 - 162.74 - 11
11 - jasonsear - Nissan GTR R34 - 162.62 - 5
12 - Twerlie - Noble M12 - 162.15 - 7
13 - HarryW - TVR Cerbera - 160.98 - 30
14 - NickCCC - TVR Cerbera - 160.69 - 17
15 - tinker27 - Mazda RX7 - 160 - 12
16 - 996TurboSean - Porsche 996 Turbo - 159.83 - 27
17 - Brummiewedge - TVR Cerbera LS2 - 159.2 - 15
18 - henna777 - Porsche 997 GT3 - 159.2 - 19
19 - keithyboy - TVR Cerbera - 158.75 - 31
20 - Housemaster - Porsche 996 GT3 MKII - 158.02 - 18
21 - Focused - TVR Cerbera - 157.69 - 24
22 - Unknown - Mazda RX7 - 157.25 - 28
23 - acrman - Dodge Viper SRT Coupe - 157.08 - 21
24 - Flea - Fiat Coupé 20v Turbo - 156.31 - 29
25 - Mr Noble - Noble M12 GTO3R - 155.98 - 14
26 - cbj - Gardner Douglas GD427 Euro - 155.88 - 13
27 - MadMark - TVR Cerbera 4.5LW - 155.88 - 38
28 - bigblockmark - TVR Tuscan S - 155.77 - 26
29 - Longbow - TVR Cerbera 4.2 - 155.55 - 32
30 - pocty - Porsche 996 GT3 RS - 155.39 - 36
31 - scooper - TVR T350c Red Rose - 155.28 - 33
32 - nelly1 - TVR Tuscan - 155.07 - 22
33 - Wilder - TVR Cerbera - 155.01 - 35
34 - cupra3 - Seat Ibiza - 154.32 - 37
35 - FUBAR - TVR Cerbera - 154.21 - 40
36 - grahamn - TVR Cerbera - 153.89 - 25
37 - R8NAN - TVR Cerbera - 153.84 - 46
38 - satman - TVR Cerbera - 153.73 - 43
39 - TvrTone - TVR Cerbera - 153.57 - 56
40 - Luckyone - TVR Cerbera - 152.53 - 50
41 - Cerberowner - TVR Cerbera - 152.48 - 49
42 - KeithW - TVR Cerbera - 152.22 - 34
43 - Byker28i - TVR Cerbera - 152.22 - 47
44 - daddysumo - Noble M12 GTO 3R - 150.83 - 20
45 - C8 CDS - TVR Cerbera - 150.83 - 63
46 - touching cloth - TVR Cerbera - 150.78 - 48
47 - firesafetydave - Mercedes E55 - 150.68 - 44
48 - AM04ARO - Vauxhall Monaro - 150.22 - 58
49 - DMC - Ford Shelby GT-500 Evolution - 150.12 - 16
50 - Olly - TVR Cerbera - 150.02 - 61
51 - buzz01 - TVR Cerbera - 149.87 - 71
52 - kippax - TVR Tuscan - 149.77 - 39
53 - Timmy2TARs - TVR Cerbera 4.5LW - 149.72 - 53
54 - toadusmodus - TVR Cerbera 4.2 - 149.72 - 54
55 - big arm - TVR Cerbera - 149.57 - 57
56 - Seasider - TVR Griffith - 149.07 - 42
57 - Slarty Bartfast - BMW M3CSL - 148.87 - 64
58 - jfk1958 - TVR Cerbera - 148.63 - 72
59 - JaryJ - VW Golf - 148.08 - 55
60 - Funkster - Noble GTO 3R - 147.84 - 45
61 - XTR2Turbo - Chevrolet Corvette C6 - 147.35 - 60
62 - speed six - TVR Cerbera - 147.3 - 62
63 - RussellM - TVR Cerbera - 146.82 - 70
64 - tbdgriffith500 - TVR Griffith 500 - 146.58 - 59
65 - warpig1 - TVR Cerbera Speed Six - 146.05 - 68
66 - Katman - TVR Cerbera - 145.77 - 52
67 - Morgan - Vauxhall Monaro 6.0VXR - 145.48 - 74
68 - Ben2 - TVR Tuscan 2 S - 145.29 - 67
69 - VX220T - VX220 Turbo - 145.06 - 51
70 - maahny - BMW M Coupe - 144.68 - 65
71 - BLUETHUNDER - TVR Cerbera 4.2 - 144.59 - 69
72 - deerhunter - Audi RS4 B5 - 144.31 - 75
73 - Cyclone1 - BMW 335D M-SPORT - 143.52 - 66
74 - s4woody - BMW M5 E39 - 143.39 - 79
75 - RUF123 - Mercedes E55 - 142.79 - 76
76 - timberman - Mercedes C32 AMG - 142.61 - 77
77 - NO.53 - TVR Griffith - 141.61 - 80
78 - wfarrell - BMW Z3 M Coupe - 141.53 - 73
79 - v66len - Holden Capa F-320 - 140.5 - 78
80 - allblack - Audi RS Avant - 138.67 - 81
81 - A GTS - MG Xpower SV - 135.93 - 82
82 - Fatdad - Hyundai - 135.03 - 83
83 - Andy Howarth - Subaru - 126.2 - 84
84 - toptotz - Seat leon cupra r - 125.7 - 87
85 - Michael Swift - Subaru - 124.54 - 86
86 - caretaker - Audi RS4 - 124.37 - 85
87 - Alex Harris - BMW 330 - 123.48 - 88
88 - Army Chap - Peugeot - 119.27 - 89

Edited by touching cloth on Monday 13th August 12:07

Much prefer the terminal velocity listing as it removes a fair bit of the idiot behind the wheel letting the car down .

[Housey]

But I’m Skid Solo

[IMI A]

Back to TVR deposit holders. I'd offer full deposit returns immediately to any disgruntled prospective purchasers. If they do not this is only heading one way...

[bullittmcqueen]

IMI A said:

Back to TVR deposit holders. I'd offer full deposit returns immediately to any disgruntled prospective purchasers. If they do not this is only heading one way...

Eh ?? The deposits are non-binding and can be returned any time. Money will be returned without any deductions and all you lose is your slot in the queue. Quite a few have already decided to return it and there were no problems.

[IMI A]

bullittmcqueen said:

IMI A said:

Back to TVR deposit holders. I'd offer full deposit returns immediately to any disgruntled prospective purchasers. If they do not this is only heading one way...

Eh ?? The deposits are non-binding and can be returned any time. Money will be returned without any deductions and all you lose is your slot in the queue. Quite a few have already decided to return it and there were no problems.

Good to know. I assume if you think there's a queue that you're still optimistic this car will make production? You do realise VW probably went through well over £1 billion developing the 911 platform?

[bullittmcqueen]

IMI A said:

bullittmcqueen said:

IMI A said:

Back to TVR deposit holders. I'd offer full deposit returns immediately to any disgruntled prospective purchasers. If they do not this is only heading one way...

Eh ?? The deposits are non-binding and can be returned any time. Money will be returned without any deductions and all you lose is your slot in the queue. Quite a few have already decided to return it and there were no problems.

Good to know. I assume if you think there's a queue that you're still optimistic this car will make production? You do realise VW probably went through well over £1 billion developing the 911 platform?

There sure is a queue and i'm in it. And though optimism is fading, i absolutely hope that it will make it to production as it is exactly the car i'd love to drive. I wouldn't drive a 911 if VW had poured 2 billion into it. I do admit that there's currently more reason to believe it will not happen, but only time will tell.

[IMI A]

bullittmcqueen said:

IMI A said:

bullittmcqueen said:

IMI A said:

Back to TVR deposit holders. I'd offer full deposit returns immediately to any disgruntled prospective purchasers. If they do not this is only heading one way...

Eh ?? The deposits are non-binding and can be returned any time. Money will be returned without any deductions and all you lose is your slot in the queue. Quite a few have already decided to return it and there were no problems.

Good to know. I assume if you think there's a queue that you're still optimistic this car will make production? You do realise VW probably went through well over £1 billion developing the 911 platform?

There sure is a queue and i'm in it. And though optimism is fading, i absolutely hope that it will make it to production as it is exactly the car i'd love to drive. I wouldn't drive a 911 if VW had poured 2 billion into it. I do admit that there's currently more reason to believe it will not happen, but only time will tell.

Understand where you're coming from on the VW 911. I hope TVR make it too. Done v.well to get it thus far just politely managing deposit holders expectations which is what management should have been doing from day 1 IMO.