RE: Ferrari F40: Showpiece of the Week

RE: Ferrari F40: Showpiece of the Week

Monday 3rd December 2018

Ferrari F40: Showpiece of the Week

Want an F40 to drive, not simply to ogle?



To understand better the allure of the Ferrari F40, which is as strong as it's ever been 30-odd years after launch, think about what makes cars collectible nowadays. Not only does it carry that badge (Enzo's very last sign off), it was a stripped out, no-holds-barred road racer, with a manual gearbox, feisty nature and limited production numbers. It was meant to be more limited, yes, but F40s still aren't exactly common. Combine all that with it being the first production car to surpass 200mph, plus the incredible way it looks, and really it's a surprise F40s aren't worth even more money.

Of course, all this mystique and near-divine provenance stuff does result in a problem. Understandably given what the cars are worth, owners are mollycoddling F40s, feverishly protecting mileages going up to protect values. But the counter argument to that is the F40 being one of the most exhilarating, exciting, downright thrilling Ferraris to drive ever made, and therefore one of the most desirable road cars ever made too. To not drive an feels like a missed opportunity of mammoth proportions. But they're worth a lot of money. And so the discussion goes around.


Look at the F40s currently for sale: most with four-figure mileages, some as low as just 4,000. Not this particular one, however: this 1990 F40 has covered 27,000 miles, or very nearly a thousand a year. It's been used, driven and enjoyed for decades, probably in even better running condition than those museum exhibits and ready for another owner to do just the same while we still can. This F40 is never going to be one of the lowest mileage examples around, even if it stood still for the next 20 years, but crucially now the car has reached such a point of reverence that it's never not going to be desirable. Imagine in 10 years time this car is for sale again with another 10,000 or so miles on it - somebody, somewhere is still going to want it. Aren't they?

Set the PH classifieds criteria to a minimum price of £500,000 and a minimum mileage of 25,000 - as we all do on a regular basis, surely - and this F40 is the newest car there with a 959. Everything else with comparable mileages is much, much older, reflecting how rare it is to see a car like an F40 with some actual use behind it. In a world where the wealth of cars going straight to collections is better known than ever, that's heartening to see.

Obviously though, this F40 is not some kind of baggy, neglected old hack - that just won't happen now with the car's reputation. It's a non-cat and non-adjust (i.e. the most desirable spec), and has spent a decade in the UK - 2008 being the year it obtained Ferrari Classiche certification, too. It's had four owners over here, has been sold by DK previously and comes with a fresh service from this September, plus the cambelt service in 2017. The crucial fuel tank replacement was done in 2013, so there's a few years left in those, and there's said to be plenty of carbon weave visible too. It's hard to think of there being a more desirable F40 around.


Because, yes, there will be those even more pristine and even better suited to concours competitions. But why would you want to do that? Imagine the sensory overload of driving an F40 now instead, with nothing but your feet and hands to manage the twin-turbo V8: no power steering, no traction control, no ABS. The kerbweight of a supermini with the power, still, of a pretty serious sports car. It must be out of this world.

Now £885k is not a bargain to anybody, but it's the most affordable F40 by hundreds of thousands of pounds and one that can continue to be enjoyed as intended - and not simply as an exhibit. Perhaps December isn't the time to be spending the best part of a million on a 30 year-old Ferrari, but let's hope someone can take the plunge at some point in the New Year. It looks like an opportunity not to be missed.

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Muzzer79

Original Poster:

10,046 posts

188 months

Monday 3rd December 2018
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See, now if my numbers come up, this is what I'd go and get.

Not some museum piece that has a shiny underside - something I can use, something I can get out on the road.

Fabulous car.


Turbobanana

6,292 posts

202 months

Monday 3rd December 2018
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To all of the following, I stick two fingers up:

- Those who mock the "only around 500BHP from a twin-turbo, 3.0 V8"
- Those who claim the overhangs are too long
- Those who say "for £885,000 you could have a (insert modern supercar here)"
- Anyone pointing out that it was the fastest car in the world for only a short time
- The "(insert modern fast estate here) can do 0-60 faster" brigade

I don't care. That right there is possibly the most desirable car in the world at the moment. IMHO, of course...

Jasandjules

69,936 posts

230 months

Monday 3rd December 2018
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I would love to know how it drives.

thegreenhell

15,409 posts

220 months

Monday 3rd December 2018
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"Look at the F40s currently for sale: most with four-figure mileages, some as low as just 4,000. Not this particular one, however: this 1990 F40 has covered 27,000 miles, or very nearly a thousand a year."

This probably just means that it hasn't had as many haircuts as the lower mileage ones.

Zetec-S

5,890 posts

94 months

Monday 3rd December 2018
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Turbobanana said:
To all of the following, I stick two fingers up:

- Those who mock the "only around 500BHP from a twin-turbo, 3.0 V8"
- Those who claim the overhangs are too long
- Those who say "for £885,000 you could have a (insert modern supercar here)"
- Anyone pointing out that it was the fastest car in the world for only a short time
- The "(insert modern fast estate here) can do 0-60 faster" brigade

I don't care. That right there is possibly the most desirable car in the world at the moment. IMHO, of course...
yes

bloomen

6,923 posts

160 months

Monday 3rd December 2018
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thegreenhell said:
This probably just means that it hasn't had as many haircuts as the lower mileage ones.
Indeed. If buyer, seller and past and future owners all agreed to keep the odometer disconnected the world would be a more cheerful place.

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

235 months

Monday 3rd December 2018
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Turbobanana said:
To all of the following, I stick two fingers up:

- Those who mock the "only around 500BHP from a twin-turbo, 3.0 V8"
- Those who claim the overhangs are too long
- Those who say "for £885,000 you could have a (insert modern supercar here)"
- Anyone pointing out that it was the fastest car in the world for only a short time
- The "(insert modern fast estate here) can do 0-60 faster" brigade

I don't care. That right there is possibly the most desirable car in the world at the moment. IMHO, of course...
Agree. This and a 2.8RSR would be my one no object cars. DK are only a few minutes up the road from me.

Krikkit

26,541 posts

182 months

Monday 3rd December 2018
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Muzzer79 said:
See, now if my numbers come up, this is what I'd go and get.

Not some museum piece that has a shiny underside - something I can use, something I can get out on the road.

Fabulous car.
Totally agreed. Fantastic machine, and one that doesn't need wrapping in cotton wool so you can use it without tanking half a million quid.

Greg the Fish

1,410 posts

67 months

Monday 3rd December 2018
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I will never forget as a young lad going to Modena Ferrari in East Horsley to pick up his 412 and they had one of these, brand new, in the show room. It was when they were still very very new and my jaw literally hit the floor.

Has remained one of my true favourite cars ever since.

smilo996

2,798 posts

171 months

Monday 3rd December 2018
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It is everything the 959 isn’t, fortunately.
There is something about it that just looks completely right.

boringbeige

376 posts

172 months

Monday 3rd December 2018
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I still do track days in mine smile

skylarking808

802 posts

87 months

Monday 3rd December 2018
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Great analogue car, that as mentioned likely to drive better than a low millage example.

I saw a red F40 driving along the A14 near Newmarket a couple of months ago.
Fantastic car on the road. Its shape and presence is so much more than a photo or static display when out in the wild. Blew every other Fezza I have seen out of the water.
Looked REALLY racey smile

Sandpit Steve

10,104 posts

75 months

Monday 3rd December 2018
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Great to see one that’s actually been used.

I think Enzo would turn in his grave to know that most examples of his final masterpiece were sitting in collections, owned by people too scared to drive them in case adding miles affects their value.

Hope that whoever buys this one treats it as Ferrari’s engineers intended! biggrin

biggles330d

1,543 posts

151 months

Monday 3rd December 2018
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One of those lottery winning dream. I'd buy it and drive it. A lot. And service it appropriately. To hell with the mileage. That's not the point - own it and enjoy it like it's meant to be enjoyed, not like looking at your savings plan grow.

The Brummie

9,373 posts

188 months

Monday 3rd December 2018
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Quite simply the daddy of all cars.

The best car, by a long way, that I have ever driven & I have been lucky enough to drive some significant cars.

Fast. Brutal. Raw.

Nothing, not even the sublime 288 GTO, surpasses the F40.

The Brummie

9,373 posts

188 months

Monday 3rd December 2018
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Jasandjules said:
I would love to know how it drives.
They go quite fast........

SimianWonder

1,144 posts

153 months

Monday 3rd December 2018
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The F40 is the quintessential dream car, and I still lust after it in a way that newer, faster metal simply cannot hope to compare to. If I ever win serious money on the lottery, I'll buy one of these. Probably this one, so I can drive it and bring the delight of an F40 to everyone who saw it.

What a machine.

rossub

4,465 posts

191 months

Monday 3rd December 2018
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Automotive pornography.

J4CKO

41,635 posts

201 months

Monday 3rd December 2018
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Turbobanana said:
To all of the following, I stick two fingers up:

- Those who mock the "only around 500BHP from a twin-turbo, 3.0 V8"
- Those who claim the overhangs are too long
- Those who say "for £885,000 you could have a (insert modern supercar here)"
- Anyone pointing out that it was the fastest car in the world for only a short time
- The "(insert modern fast estate here) can do 0-60 faster" brigade

I don't care. That right there is possibly the most desirable car in the world at the moment. IMHO, of course...
Im with you, but not sure anyone is saying that.

500 bhp doesnt raise an eyebrow now but anyone who thinks that needs a go of something like that, suspect most of us would come back happy, but a little bit pale. Have driven a 911 Turbo with more power and although the acceleration was mental, totally different ball game.

Walter Sobchak

5,723 posts

225 months

Monday 3rd December 2018
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One of my favourite cars ever, remember it being in a computer game on the Sega Megadrive in the early 90s along with the Porsche 959 and Lamborghini Diablo, I always picked the F40, if my Euromillions numbers came up this would be parked next to a Shelby Cobra and actually driven too!.