Haymarket agrees sale of PistonHeads to CarGurus

Haymarket agrees sale of PistonHeads to CarGurus

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11,752 posts

231 months

Wednesday 19th December 2018
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Henners said:
janesmith1950 said:
Monkeylegend said:
Blatters, but that has since closed down.

CTF is dead, had a total of 59 posts in a day when I looked last week.
58 of those will be the same person still congratulating themselves via 14 different user accounts over how much PH is ste.
Shhhhh they’ll be happy they have been mentioned biggrin
Their angry bile has no end:



hehe

xjay1337

15,966 posts

119 months

Wednesday 19th December 2018
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mehmehmeh said:
dhutch said:
- No single signin with google/facebook.

Daniel
This is a good thing? What happens when they no longer exist?
Do you really think they won't exist?

It would not surprise me in 10 years if Google and Facebook owned the internet.

pingu393

7,834 posts

206 months

Wednesday 19th December 2018
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mehmehmeh said:
dhutch said:
- No single signin with google/facebook.

Daniel
This is a good thing? What happens when they no longer exist?
Just use your PH username & password - simplez smile

Clockwork Cupcake

74,622 posts

273 months

Wednesday 19th December 2018
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xjay1337 said:
Do you really think they won't exist?

It would not surprise me in 10 years if Google and Facebook owned the internet.
All the more reason to not to use them for login credentials for all the websites you visit. Their data mining reach is already scary enough without giving them yet more data.


xjay1337

15,966 posts

119 months

Wednesday 19th December 2018
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Clockwork Cupcake said:
xjay1337 said:
Do you really think they won't exist?

It would not surprise me in 10 years if Google and Facebook owned the internet.
All the more reason to not to use them for login credentials for all the websites you visit. Their data mining reach is already scary enough without giving them yet more data.
Luckily my life is boring, so I don't care !

Recently I have only seen them receive my public profile. Never see them getting anything else.

I personally don't really care if they know that I like Bugzy Malone and CarThrottle :-)

pingu393

7,834 posts

206 months

Wednesday 19th December 2018
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xjay1337 said:
I personally don't really care if they know that I like Bugzy Malone and CarThrottle :-)
Are you ready for some Jodie Foster related links? smilewink

Monkeylegend

26,468 posts

232 months

Thursday 20th December 2018
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xjay1337 said:
It would not surprise me in 10 years if Google and Facebook owned the internet.
Nah, castroses "owns" the internet, nobody will get past him.

rev-erend

21,421 posts

285 months

Thursday 20th December 2018
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Good luck to them ..

Hopefully put some good new ideas into PH as it needs them.

dhutch

14,391 posts

198 months

Thursday 20th December 2018
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mehmehmeh said:
This is a good thing? What happens when they no longer exist?
Clockwork Cupcake said:
All the more reason to not to use them for login credentials for all the websites you visit. Their data mining reach is already scary enough without giving them yet more data.
There are obvious pros and cons.

However by the time I am a member of a forum, and of facebook, and of thr forums facebook page, enabling fb single signin is just the next step.
I sign into my own forum, as the site owner, using facebook single signin. I can sign into the same account directly, as I did before facebook, but its quicker.

Life isnt perfect, humans like most animal inherently take the easier option, if your forum is harder to sign into they are less likely to use it.


Daniel

captain_cynic

12,074 posts

96 months

Thursday 20th December 2018
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xjay1337 said:
Do you really think they won't exist?

It would not surprise me in 10 years if Google and Facebook owned the internet.
Google maybe, but Google have a habit of shutting down things. I wouldn't count on any Google project aside from Android, search and their public DNS servers being around in 5 years time.

As for Facebook. I can easily see this not being around in 5 years time, I remember when people considered MySpace to be unstoppable... Users diminished and it was sold off to Newscorp before being shut down. Social media platforms that rely on popularity rely on a very fickle mistress. I can see Facebook being a shadow of it's former self in a few years hurriedly looking for a sucker to buy it because the Next Big Thing(TM) has come along.

PH fills a niche and things that fill a niche tend to survive long term (however they never grow to be very big).

thebraketester

14,255 posts

139 months

Thursday 20th December 2018
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captain_cynic said:
xjay1337 said:
Do you really think they won't exist?

It would not surprise me in 10 years if Google and Facebook owned the internet.
Google maybe, but Google have a habit of shutting down things. I wouldn't count on any Google project aside from Android, search and their public DNS servers being around in 5 years time.

As for Facebook. I can easily see this not being around in 5 years time, I remember when people considered MySpace to be unstoppable... Users diminished and it was sold off to Newscorp before being shut down. Social media platforms that rely on popularity rely on a very fickle mistress. I can see Facebook being a shadow of it's former self in a few years hurriedly looking for a sucker to buy it because the Next Big Thing(TM) has come along.

PH fills a niche and things that fill a niche tend to survive long term (however they never grow to be very big).
Myspace failed because it was primarily for music networking/promotion. Once FB showed up as the thing of everything, MS days were always going to be numbered.

I cant see FB being running into trouble any time soon.... the user group is too large. It will just evolve.

captain_cynic

12,074 posts

96 months

Thursday 20th December 2018
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thebraketester said:
Myspace failed because it was primarily for music networking/promotion. Once FB showed up as the thing of everything, MS days were always going to be numbered.

I cant see FB being running into trouble any time soon.... the user group is too large. It will just evolve.
The thing is, Facebook is already in trouble.

The whole Delete Facebook thing drove away huge numbers of users, each change is continuing to annoy more people away as they are becoming more and more desperate to monetise their users.

Instagram has already been leaching their userbase for years. So its pretty much following the same path into obscurity as Live Journal and MySpace. Same thing will happen to Instagram too, the whole thing is cyclical.

If I relied on Facebook for anything, I'd already be making plans to migrate off it.

Clockwork Cupcake

74,622 posts

273 months

Thursday 20th December 2018
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There's an interesting article about Facebook on The Register right now, mainly focussing on how Facebook have lied so much about how much PII they gather about you and how they use it. But one little bit of it seemed very relevant to the off-topic debate that has evolved on this thread, because it covers the inherent fragility of Facebook.

It is

"The truth is that Facebook is nothing special. It is a website. A very big and clever website but a website that is completely reliant on its users to post their own content. Those users don't need Facebook and they could, in a matter of seconds, decide to tap on a different app and post their thoughts and updates there, instead. If enough people make that decision, the company collapses. All 340 billion dollars of it.

"Mark Zuckerberg knows that all too well, and as internal emails handed over to the British Parliament and then published make clear, the top tier of Facebook was highly focused on that question of existential dread: how do we avoid becoming the next MySpace, Geocities, Google Plus, or Friendster?"

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/12/20/facebook_...

It's a good little read.


Edited by Clockwork Cupcake on Thursday 20th December 11:45

irocfan

40,563 posts

191 months

Thursday 20th December 2018
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captain_cynic said:
Google maybe, but Google have a habit of shutting down things. I wouldn't count on any Google project aside from Android, search and their public DNS servers being around in 5 years time.
Well there is talk about android being on its last legs too

captain_cynic

12,074 posts

96 months

Thursday 20th December 2018
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irocfan said:
Well there is talk about android being on its last legs too
Cant see how, its the dominant OS in the mobile market. More chance of IOS disappearing in the next few years.

And open source. Realistically, not a project they can kill. They can stop contributing but they cant take it out of circulation.

Clockwork Cupcake

74,622 posts

273 months

Thursday 20th December 2018
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captain_cynic said:
Cant see how, its the dominant OS in the mobile market. More chance of IOS disappearing in the next few years.

And open source. Realistically, not a project they can kill. They can stop contributing but they cant take it out of circulation.
S40 was the dominant OS in the mobile market at one point.

But, yes, you are correct that since Android is OSS then it will probably continue in some form or other indefinitely.

captain_cynic

12,074 posts

96 months

Thursday 20th December 2018
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Clockwork Cupcake said:
S40 was the dominant OS in the mobile market at one point.

But, yes, you are correct that since Android is OSS then it will probably continue in some form or other indefinitely.
I've no doubt that if something better comes along that Android will be displaced. However I don't know about anything like that on the horizon.

FB is already bleeding users.

xjay1337

15,966 posts

119 months

Thursday 20th December 2018
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captain_cynic said:
I've no doubt that if something better comes along that Android will be displaced. However I don't know about anything like that on the horizon.

FB is already bleeding users.
It's still by far the single most used website in the world

captain_cynic

12,074 posts

96 months

Thursday 20th December 2018
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xjay1337 said:
captain_cynic said:
I've no doubt that if something better comes along that Android will be displaced. However I don't know about anything like that on the horizon.

FB is already bleeding users.
It's still by far the single most used website in the world
Which has fallen from 8.5 million page per month visits in 2016 to 4.7 million in 2018.

So much so that it's now number 3 behind Google and Youtube.

I'll give you number 2 given that Google is a search engine rather than a content platform.

Blackpuddin

16,586 posts

206 months

Thursday 20th December 2018
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I'm really enjoying this thread about Haymarket agreeing the sale of PistonHeads to CarGurus.
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