Haymarket agrees sale of PistonHeads to CarGurus

Haymarket agrees sale of PistonHeads to CarGurus

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Clockwork Cupcake

74,615 posts

273 months

Thursday 20th December 2018
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Blackpuddin said:
I'm really enjoying this thread about Haymarket agreeing the sale of PistonHeads to CarGurus.
Well, that's the nature of forums sometimes. smile

Dixy

2,924 posts

206 months

Thursday 20th December 2018
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Blackpuddin said:
I'm really enjoying this thread about Haymarket agreeing the sale of PistonHeads to CarGurus.
Realy, not seen anything about it on Facebook.

xjay1337

15,966 posts

119 months

Thursday 20th December 2018
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captain_cynic said:
xjay1337 said:
captain_cynic said:
I've no doubt that if something better comes along that Android will be displaced. However I don't know about anything like that on the horizon.

FB is already bleeding users.
It's still by far the single most used website in the world
Which has fallen from 8.5 million page per month visits in 2016 to 4.7 million in 2018.

So much so that it's now number 3 behind Google and Youtube.

I'll give you number 2 given that Google is a search engine rather than a content platform.
Where are you getting your numbers from?

Seems very low . A quick Google found these numbers

https://zephoria.com/top-15-valuable-facebook-stat...

Internet said:
Core Datapoints Review & Updated Wednesday, November 28, 2018

Worldwide, there are over 2.27 billion monthly active Facebook users for Q3 2018 (Facebook MAUs) which is a 10 percent increase year over year. (Source: Facebook 10/30/18) What this means for you: In case you had any lingering doubts, statistically, Facebook is too big to ignore.
There are 1.15 billion mobile daily active users (Mobile DAU) for December 2016, an increase of 23 percent year-over-year. (Source: Facebook as of 2/01/17) This is hugely significant and shows the dramatic growth of mobile traffic on Facebook. Please note that this was the last official division received in IR press releases of a delineation of mobile DAU from other metrics. Mobile advertising revenue is reported and according to Facebook, it represented approximately 91 percent of advertising revenue for Q2 2018 up from 87 percent in Q2 2017.
1.49 billion people on average log onto Facebook daily and are considered daily active users (Facebook DAU) for September 2018, which represents a 9 percent increase year over year (Source: Facebook as 10/30/18). Sixty-six percent of Facebook’s audience would be considered DAU versus Monthly Active Users (MAU). The Implication: A huge and vastly growing number of Facebook users are active and consistent in their visits to the site, making them a promising audience for your marketing efforts.
There are 1.74 billion mobile active users (Mobile Facebook MAU) for December 2016 which is an increase of 21% year-over-year (Source: Facebook as of 02/01/17).
On average, the Like and Share Buttons are viewed across almost 10 million websites daily. (Source: Facebook as of 10/2/2014)
In Europe, over 307 million people are on Facebook. (Source: Search Engine Journal) The Takeaway: This isn’t just a U.S. phenomenon – a worldwide market is available via Facebook.
Age 25 to 34, at 29.7% of users, is the most common age demographic. (Source:Emarketer 2012) What this means for you: This is the prime target demographic for many businesses’ marketing efforts, and you have the chance to engage these key consumers on Facebook.
Five new profiles are created every second. (Source: ALLFacebook 2012) The Implication: Your potential audience on Facebook is growing exponentially.
Facebook users are 76% female (out of 100% of all females) and 66% male (out of 100% of all males). This stat is one that you really have to think about because it’s comparing the percentage of all females against the percentage of all males who are on Facebook. Sorry for the confusion. To dig a little deeper take a look at this study which does a much better job at explaining the nuances – Source: Brandwatch – https://www.brandwatch.com/2015/01/men-vs-women-ac... The Takeaway: Since this isn’t a large statistical difference, you should be able to effectively reach both genders on Facebook.
Highest traffic occurs mid-week between 1 to 3 pm. (Source: Bit.ly blog) On another note, a Facebook post at 7pm will result in more clicks on average than posting at 8pm (Source: Forbes). Go figure. How this can help you: You have the potential to reach more consumers and drive higher traffic to your site during peak usage times, but people may be more likely to be more engaged in the evenings. This statistic may be a factor when you are planning social communication scheduling. (Also consider that Facebook has a global audience, so you may want to plan around the time zone of your key market.)
On Thursdays and Fridays, engagement is 18% higher. (Source: Bit.ly blog) The Implication: Again, use this information to determine when to post in order to optimize your social media marketing efforts.
There are 83 million fake profiles. (Source: CNN) The Takeaway: Nothing is perfect, so always remain thoughtful and strategic in your efforts. Also, fake or not, these are still potential consumers. There are various reasons for fake profiles, including professionals doing testing and research, and people who want to segment their Facebook use more than is possible with one account.
Photo uploads total 300 million per day. (Source: Gizmodo) The Implication: Again, this is an indication of engaged users; also, it is an indication that there are a lot of photos, as well as other information, competing for users’ attention, so target your efforts strategically.
Average time spent per Facebook visit is 20 minutes. (Source: Infodocket) What this means for you: You could have a short time period to make your impression, so use it wisely with relevant, interesting and unique posts and offers in order to get the most return on your efforts.
Every 60 seconds on Facebook: 510,000 comments are posted, 293,000 statuses are updated, and 136,000 photos are uploaded. (Source: The Social Skinny) The Implication: Again, there are a lot of engaged and active users, but also a huge amount of information competing for their attention, so quality and strategy on your part matter.
4.75 billion pieces of content shared daily as of May 2013 which is a 94 percent increase from August 2012. (Source: Facebook)
50% of 18-24 year-olds go on Facebook when they wake up. (Source: The Social Skinny) What this means for you: Facebook is important to these users, and potentially, if done correctly, so is the content you post on it.
One in five page views in the United States occurs on Facebook. (Source: Infodocket 2012) How this helps you: This is a huge market on the web; if you use social media marketing efforts on Facebook well, you could have huge returns to show for it.
42% of marketers report that Facebook is critical or important to their business. (Source: State of Inbound Marketing 2012 The Takeaway: This is a crowded marketplace, but you can’t afford to sit it out, because odds are fairly high that your competition is there. The key is to use Facebook marketing correctly and make sure that your efforts stand out from the crowd.
16 Million local business pages have been created as of May 2013 which is a 100 percent increase from 8 million in June 2012. (Source: Facebook). Facebook marketing has transformed how business is conducted, and its use by local businesses to extend their markets continues to explode.

alorotom

11,946 posts

188 months

Thursday 20th December 2018
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Clockwork Cupcake said:
captain_cynic said:
Cant see how, its the dominant OS in the mobile market. More chance of IOS disappearing in the next few years.

And open source. Realistically, not a project they can kill. They can stop contributing but they cant take it out of circulation.
S40 was the dominant OS in the mobile market at one point.

But, yes, you are correct that since Android is OSS then it will probably continue in some form or other indefinitely.
Massively o/t but if for example a cheaper base OS was released in China that had large screen handsets priced more competitively than current andoids and the OS ran WeChat there would be a mass shift of the bulk of the android install base nearly overnight

Tom Logan

3,227 posts

126 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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I see Car Gurus are now running ads on TV. My guess is the name of this forum will change to further increase their profile.

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

229 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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Tom Logan said:
I see Car Gurus are now running ads on TV. My guess is the name of this forum will change to further increase their profile.
Mumsheads?

danllama

5,728 posts

143 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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I've been swamped with cargurus ads on youtube too, very annoying, very very annoying.

Clockwork Cupcake

74,615 posts

273 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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funkyrobot said:
Mumsheads?
It always amuses me when I see the media refer to PistonHeads as "Mumsnet for men" considering we pre-date Mumsnet by several years. smile


Edited by Clockwork Cupcake on Friday 28th December 09:45

deltashad

6,731 posts

198 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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A quick internet search on car gurus shows no listing on used values of lotus or Lancia. Two of my favourite car brands owning one of each. Well I'm in. Great move. Btw what's a Hyundai?l not gonna be car friendly unless you like white goods.

dhutch

14,391 posts

198 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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Tom Logan said:
I see Car Gurus are now running ads on TV. My guess is the name of this forum will change to further increase their profile.
Where abouts, don't watch a lot of telly box. Will look out on youtube.

Tom Logan

3,227 posts

126 months

Friday 28th December 2018
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dhutch said:
Where abouts, don't watch a lot of telly box. Will look out on youtube.
Seen quite a lot on the freeview telly in my camper, not sure if they're on 'mainstream' TV, ITV etc.

mygoldfishbowl

3,706 posts

144 months

Friday 28th December 2018
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irocfan said:
Well there is talk about android being on its last legs too
One can only hope.

Red Devil

13,069 posts

209 months

Friday 28th December 2018
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Clockwork Cupcake said:
zarjaz1991 said:
Like I said, if it's so lucrative, why are Haymarket getting shot after years of near-zero investment?
I never understood why Haymarket bought PH in the first place. They're a publisher, and already have a strong brand with Autocar, for example. I never understood why they needed PH as well. Clearly they've come to the same conclusion.
They hoped to take on Autotrader and it hasn't quite worked out as they hoped.
Haymarket is undergoing rationalisation of its portofolio. The sale is part of that strategy.
See - https://flashesandflames.com/2018/12/07/pistonhead...

I'm willing to wager that CG has not bought PH for its sprawling forums.
I predict they will be drastically pruned, reoriented, or nixed altogether.
It's just a matter of time.


Blackpuddin

16,559 posts

206 months

Friday 28th December 2018
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Some interesting stuff in that piece about the non-success (commercially speaking at least) of DriveTribe.

zarjaz1991

3,480 posts

124 months

Friday 28th December 2018
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Red Devil said:
I'm willing to wager that CG has not bought PH for its sprawling forums.
I predict they will be drastically pruned, reoriented, or nixed altogether.
It's just a matter of time.
This is 100% what will happen.

As someone who has considerable involvement in the forum 'industry' professionally, forums are a dead (not dying) animal, and media companies that still have them are generally trying to offload them as quickly as possible.

They lack activity, don't attract new members, and are a legal liability. They cost a lot to run and maintain and aren't easy to customise or keep up to date.

This site's forums will either be closed or dramatically downsized, if it's the latter the rules will made much stricter, and there'll be loads of artificial clickbait 'content' threads with titles like "Six things you never knew about the new Corsa. The fifth will SHOCK you".

Any actual journalists or professional content writers on the ph staff will be fired and replaced with teenage clickbait writers writing stuff like the above.

Sorry but that's the reality of these deals, companies DON'T want forums, it's a fact.

thebraketester

14,248 posts

139 months

Friday 28th December 2018
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12million. Blimey.

aww999

2,068 posts

262 months

Friday 28th December 2018
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Clockwork Cupcake said:
It always amuses me when I see the media refer to PistonHeads as "Mumsnet for men" considering we predate Mumsnet by several years. smile


Edited by Clockwork Cupcake on Thursday 27th December 21:16
I assume you meant to write "pre-date" but what you do in your own time is your business winkbiggrin

Clockwork Cupcake

74,615 posts

273 months

Friday 28th December 2018
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aww999 said:
I assume you meant to write "pre-date" but what you do in your own time is your business winkbiggrin
Oops. paperbag


HTP99

22,582 posts

141 months

Saturday 29th December 2018
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Clockwork Cupcake said:
aww999 said:
I assume you meant to write "pre-date" but what you do in your own time is your business winkbiggrin
Oops. paperbag
Unless I'm missing something, it is "predate"?

craigjm

17,962 posts

201 months

Saturday 29th December 2018
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Clockwork Cupcake said:
funkyrobot said:
Mumsheads?
It always amuses me when I see the media refer to PistonHeads as "Mumsnet for men" considering we pre-date Mumsnet by several years. smile


Edited by Clockwork Cupcake on Friday 28th December 09:45
Can’t think of a fine I’ve ever heard the media talk about this place

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