Tyre with exposed cord
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Can get some great deals on eBay. I got 2 F1 Eagle asymmetric 3 few months back 6mm £70 total. One did have a small hole but easily repairable. Guy I go to charges £15 fitting valves balancing and even repaired it for free.
That tyre looks done. Lost it sideways at high speed I would say.
That tyre looks done. Lost it sideways at high speed I would say.
Seems to me you have no redress. If you put it on a wheel and it holds pressure, the description doesn't lie. I disagree with the majority here in that I would be content to have it on a car for ordinary use within speed limits. The photos magnify the damage, which is clearly a one-off lateral shunt, and is only at the very edge of the road contact area.
Think about the physics - how likely is it to suddenly deflate at the relatively low pressure of car tyres? Even at its weak point I think it would be considerably more substantial than the thickness of my much flimsier bicycle tyres which run at around three times the pressure of car tyres. And even if it did, I suspect you could cope with a tyre going flat - as long as you carry a spare!
Think about the physics - how likely is it to suddenly deflate at the relatively low pressure of car tyres? Even at its weak point I think it would be considerably more substantial than the thickness of my much flimsier bicycle tyres which run at around three times the pressure of car tyres. And even if it did, I suspect you could cope with a tyre going flat - as long as you carry a spare!
Leveret said:
Seems to me you have no redress. If you put it on a wheel and it holds pressure, the description doesn't lie. I disagree with the majority here in that I would be content to have it on a car for ordinary use within speed limits. The photos magnify the damage, which is clearly a one-off lateral shunt, and is only at the very edge of the road contact area.
Think about the physics - how likely is it to suddenly deflate at the relatively low pressure of car tyres? Even at its weak point I think it would be considerably more substantial than the thickness of my much flimsier bicycle tyres which run at around three times the pressure of car tyres. And even if it did, I suspect you could cope with a tyre going flat - as long as you carry a spare!
I largely agree with you on the safety aspect, which is why I posed the question. But legally any exposed cord is an immediate MOT failure and points/fine if stopped by the police. But I presume that's largely because exposed cords usually imply severe wear through the rubber, weakening and no tread left. In my case there's no real wear and it is just a localised cosmetic defect. Nonetheless, illegal to drive on, but perhaps fine for track use.Think about the physics - how likely is it to suddenly deflate at the relatively low pressure of car tyres? Even at its weak point I think it would be considerably more substantial than the thickness of my much flimsier bicycle tyres which run at around three times the pressure of car tyres. And even if it did, I suspect you could cope with a tyre going flat - as long as you carry a spare!
K-c8fs1 said:
Leveret said:
Seems to me you have no redress. If you put it on a wheel and it holds pressure, the description doesn't lie. I disagree with the majority here in that I would be content to have it on a car for ordinary use within speed limits. The photos magnify the damage, which is clearly a one-off lateral shunt, and is only at the very edge of the road contact area.
Think about the physics - how likely is it to suddenly deflate at the relatively low pressure of car tyres? Even at its weak point I think it would be considerably more substantial than the thickness of my much flimsier bicycle tyres which run at around three times the pressure of car tyres. And even if it did, I suspect you could cope with a tyre going flat - as long as you carry a spare!
I largely agree with you on the safety aspect, which is why I posed the question. But legally any exposed cord is an immediate MOT failure and points/fine if stopped by the police. But I presume that's largely because exposed cords usually imply severe wear through the rubber, weakening and no tread left. In my case there's no real wear and it is just a localised cosmetic defect. Nonetheless, illegal to drive on, but perhaps fine for track use.Think about the physics - how likely is it to suddenly deflate at the relatively low pressure of car tyres? Even at its weak point I think it would be considerably more substantial than the thickness of my much flimsier bicycle tyres which run at around three times the pressure of car tyres. And even if it did, I suspect you could cope with a tyre going flat - as long as you carry a spare!
The chord is now liable to quickly corrode and also allow water ingress to other chords making this tyre a ticking timebomb as to when it will give up. This could be on your driveway or whilst doing 80mph on the motorway. Not worth the risk.
Comparing it with the tyre of a bicycle that weighs 20kgs and does 20mph is just plain retarded also.
Ahbefive said:
No, this is mental advice.
The chord is now liable to quickly corrode and also allow water ingress to other chords making this tyre a ticking timebomb as to when it will give up. This could be on your driveway or whilst doing 80mph on the motorway. Not worth the risk.
yes, very good point about corrosion. that would be the key issue. thanksThe chord is now liable to quickly corrode and also allow water ingress to other chords making this tyre a ticking timebomb as to when it will give up. This could be on your driveway or whilst doing 80mph on the motorway. Not worth the risk.
K-c8fs1 said:
Nonetheless, illegal to drive on, but perhaps fine for track use.
Whilst technically (legally?) true, I question the logic of this. If the tyre is questionable at best whilst driving at normal road speeds and demands, why would it then be ok when driving much faster/harder on a track?I’m starting to get a bit cheesed off with the number of people who turn up to a track day with utterly knackered tyres, quickly have an off and ruin the next hour for the rest of us whilst gravel traps are swept up and tyre walls put back together again...
Get your money back or bin it. Just my opinion, of course!
mrfunex said:
Whilst technically (legally?) true, I question the logic of this. If the tyre is questionable at best whilst driving at normal road speeds and demands, why would it then be ok when driving much faster/harder on a track?
yes, fair point. I've never taken my TT on a track so it was a hypothetical really. I've already gotten my refund on the tyre and need to dispose of it. The reason I was asking was in case anyone else wanted the tyre to save me the hassle of chucking it myself. It would be the decision of the new owner whether to use it on a track or a planter for their garden, or whatever; I just thought I'd provide as much info to them as possible..Leveret said:
Seems to me you have no redress. If you put it on a wheel and it holds pressure, the description doesn't lie. I disagree with the majority here in that I would be content to have it on a car for ordinary use within speed limits. The photos magnify the damage, which is clearly a one-off lateral shunt, and is only at the very edge of the road contact area.
Think about the physics - how likely is it to suddenly deflate at the relatively low pressure of car tyres? Even at its weak point I think it would be considerably more substantial than the thickness of my much flimsier bicycle tyres which run at around three times the pressure of car tyres. And even if it did, I suspect you could cope with a tyre going flat - as long as you carry a spare!
I'm not sure I've ever read such a load of crap on here before, and that's saying something.Think about the physics - how likely is it to suddenly deflate at the relatively low pressure of car tyres? Even at its weak point I think it would be considerably more substantial than the thickness of my much flimsier bicycle tyres which run at around three times the pressure of car tyres. And even if it did, I suspect you could cope with a tyre going flat - as long as you carry a spare!
K-c8fs1 said:
Ahbefive said:
No, this is mental advice.
The chord is now liable to quickly corrode and also allow water ingress to other chords making this tyre a ticking timebomb as to when it will give up. This could be on your driveway or whilst doing 80mph on the motorway. Not worth the risk.
yes, very good point about corrosion. that would be the key issue. thanksThe chord is now liable to quickly corrode and also allow water ingress to other chords making this tyre a ticking timebomb as to when it will give up. This could be on your driveway or whilst doing 80mph on the motorway. Not worth the risk.
https://www.michelinman.com/US/en/help/how-is-a-ti...
Leveret said:
K-c8fs1 said:
Ahbefive said:
No, this is mental advice.
The chord is now liable to quickly corrode and also allow water ingress to other chords making this tyre a ticking timebomb as to when it will give up. This could be on your driveway or whilst doing 80mph on the motorway. Not worth the risk.
yes, very good point about corrosion. that would be the key issue. thanksThe chord is now liable to quickly corrode and also allow water ingress to other chords making this tyre a ticking timebomb as to when it will give up. This could be on your driveway or whilst doing 80mph on the motorway. Not worth the risk.
https://www.michelinman.com/US/en/help/how-is-a-ti...
Either way, that tyre has been massively t
tted, and does not belong on the roads.tannhauser said:
catso said:
HustleRussell said:
K-c8fs1 said:
I bought a used tyre on eBay
Why.
catso said:
Indeed, why take the risk. Would you be happy to buy used brake pads?
I’ve bought and sold quite a few sets of used discs and pads over the years. Also bought plenty of used tyres either as a tyre or as a set on a used set of alloy wheels.
As long as you inspect it all prior to use what’s the issue? This is what the OP has done and concluded this tyre was no good.
HustleRussell said:
K-c8fs1 said:
I bought a used tyre on eBay
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