Interested in a Cayman... funny service gap??
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Looking '08 ish Caymans... tried both the S and 2.7 and strangely like the 2.7, because you feel that you lean on it more. In any case, I've found a specific car that I like - but looking at the service history - it's a little odd for a 2008 car. Service history is: 2012, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17. So it appears that from 08, the car waited four years for its first service! Seems very odd; except the mileage is so low... and was so low at the 2012 first service.
Best avoided???
Edit to add - basically, the car has 40k miles on it - not bad for ten years old... and the first service was done at 20k miles. But the intervals are supposed to be 20k OR every 2 years, as far as I know. So the first owner seems to have just ignored the 2 year rule and waited to hit 20k miles. To be fair, the miles have crept up in increments of about 2 or 3,000 miles each year and they've still serviced the car from that point, annually and so; if anything it's been over serviced - depsite missing the first four year stint. But four years; low miles or not - seems not good; to leave a car with no oil change or any other service goodies...
Best avoided???
Edit to add - basically, the car has 40k miles on it - not bad for ten years old... and the first service was done at 20k miles. But the intervals are supposed to be 20k OR every 2 years, as far as I know. So the first owner seems to have just ignored the 2 year rule and waited to hit 20k miles. To be fair, the miles have crept up in increments of about 2 or 3,000 miles each year and they've still serviced the car from that point, annually and so; if anything it's been over serviced - depsite missing the first four year stint. But four years; low miles or not - seems not good; to leave a car with no oil change or any other service goodies...
Edited by LDN on Monday 10th December 15:38
It sounds like a simple misunderstanding of the service interval, unless you're looking at book stamps and one was not documented.
I think the OPC should be able to confirm if a service was done at 2 years if that's where the car is for sale. If it's a private sale or at an independent dealer you may need to an one nicely to check for you.
I think the OPC should be able to confirm if a service was done at 2 years if that's where the car is for sale. If it's a private sale or at an independent dealer you may need to an one nicely to check for you.
Twinfan said:
It sounds like a simple misunderstanding of the service interval, unless you're looking at book stamps and one was not documented.
I think the OPC should be able to confirm if a service was done at 2 years if that's where the car is for sale. If it's a private sale or at an independent dealer you may need to an one nicely to check for you.
Good idea! I just called my local centre and they were kind enough to do a check. No record of any services.I think the OPC should be able to confirm if a service was done at 2 years if that's where the car is for sale. If it's a private sale or at an independent dealer you may need to an one nicely to check for you.
In any case, they had no record. I don't think I could go for it with such a massive four year gap before its first service, at least on record; and despite the low miles.
Edited by LDN on Monday 10th December 16:29
Freakuk said:
If it hasn't done 20K miles why change the oil? Is it going to degrade any further given the low miles?
Given the cost of an oil change by Porsche I can see the owners POV, changing oil for 3-4K use seems crazy to me.
Fair point and it was what I was thinking... but, four years is a long time for no service or checkup... and it doesn't look good on paper. But I don't disagree with you, that's for sure.Given the cost of an oil change by Porsche I can see the owners POV, changing oil for 3-4K use seems crazy to me.
If the car otherwise is fine, and the last service showed no issues, I'd be OK with the missed service if the price was reasonable. It would need to be cheaper than normal though as it may cause problems when selling down the line, although the older the car gets the less it matters.
That Porsche will have left the factory with long life spark plugs and Mobil 1 oil in the engine, which is a particularly high performing and stable oil; whilst 4 years and 20k miles is stretching its limits it is not necessarily exceeding the range the oil can cope with in a climate that is neither excessively cold not excessively hot & humid so it wouldn't worry me overly. The engine management system will also have being monitoring the engine and would have reported errors if anything was operating out of factory preset tolerances so if it needed any intervention from the service center then the car would have advised the owner.
Add the above to it having been serviced on the button for the past six years and having done 20,000 miles over that time frame, I think it is fairly safe to assume that if the lack of service for the first 20k miles had caused any issues then they would have shown up by now.
I certainly wouldn't pass on it based upon the servicing as you've described it, if everything else looks good then it's likely to be a good car.
Add the above to it having been serviced on the button for the past six years and having done 20,000 miles over that time frame, I think it is fairly safe to assume that if the lack of service for the first 20k miles had caused any issues then they would have shown up by now.
I certainly wouldn't pass on it based upon the servicing as you've described it, if everything else looks good then it's likely to be a good car.
If the mileage is unusually low with no service record for the first four years it does sound a little odd. It could have racked up a huge amount of miles and been clocked back to 20k for its "first" service.
I did hear a tale a few years ago about a local businessman who dealt in bankrupt stock that bought himself a new BMW every three years, that's bought as in paid in full. He did intergalactic mileage as his business took him all over the country. Come three years he'd get it clocked then MOT and service it and sell it on in the classifieds. Rinse and repeat every three years.
I did hear a tale a few years ago about a local businessman who dealt in bankrupt stock that bought himself a new BMW every three years, that's bought as in paid in full. He did intergalactic mileage as his business took him all over the country. Come three years he'd get it clocked then MOT and service it and sell it on in the classifieds. Rinse and repeat every three years.
tozerman said:
LDN said:
Fair points and all taken on board!
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