RE: Pininfarina names 1,925hp hypercar Battista

RE: Pininfarina names 1,925hp hypercar Battista

Monday 10th December 2018

Pininfarina names 1,925hp hypercar Battista

Italian firm's first standalone model is dedicated to the man that founded the company



Automobili Pininfarina has reiterated that its first standalone model - an all-electric hypercar to be launched at the Geneva motor show next year - will be the quickest and most powerful car to herald from Italy. You know, the country that makes Ferraris, Lamborghinis and Paganis. To emphasise that it means business, the newly launched car firm has christened the model with the most sacred of names: Battista.

No, not after Sergio Batista the Argentinean midfielder of 39 caps, but after Battista Farina, the legendary automotive designer who founded the firm in 1930. To Pininfarina, this decision has as much significance as Ferrari naming one of its supercars Enzo. It certainly ought to do the snowballing level of expectation no harm - if that was ever really a problem for a 1,925hp hypercar that's claimed to be capable of a sub-two seconds 0-60mph dash and is expected to break the 250mph barrier.

No more than 150 examples will be available from late 2020, and its manufacturer conservatively estimates that the unit price is likely to be between $2m and $2.5m. The US, Europe and Asia (plus the Middle East) will each receive an allocation of 50 cars.

As PH found out during a recent visit to Pininfarina's headquarters, the firm has eight decades of experience to call upon, along with the vision and leadership of Battista's grandson - and current company boss - Paolo Pininfarina. Enough, you'd hope, to ensure that its first-born product lives up to the family legacy...


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Housey

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2,076 posts

228 months

Monday 10th December 2018
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I’ve got a 3000bhp one coming

0 to 60 in under 1 second
350mph
4 second quarter mile

55m each

All sold

Gameface

16,565 posts

78 months

Monday 10th December 2018
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I guess Pininfarina have more credibility than most others of this ilk.

ReaperCushions

6,031 posts

185 months

Tuesday 11th December 2018
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Gameface said:
I guess Pininfarina have more credibility than most others of this ilk.
Not really. As a design house, absolutely.. but not a manufacturer.

Gameface

16,565 posts

78 months

Tuesday 11th December 2018
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ReaperCushions said:
Gameface said:
I guess Pininfarina have more credibility than most others of this ilk.
Not really. As a design house, absolutely.. but not a manufacturer.
I think they do.

Plug Life

978 posts

92 months

Tuesday 11th December 2018
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Just don't let The Hamster drive it.

Fiesta1.0L

97 posts

99 months

Tuesday 11th December 2018
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Yawn

Someone needs to invent passion for electical cars, because there's no passion, at all. The power is simply a number written on a bit of paper by an accountant and seemingly easily met.

Ar least you *felt* like the engineers had a struggle to hit the power in the Veyron, as sterile as you could see it.

This? A reboxing of another product, however pretty as it might or might not turn out to be.

unpc

2,836 posts

214 months

Tuesday 11th December 2018
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Gameface said:
ReaperCushions said:
Gameface said:
I guess Pininfarina have more credibility than most others of this ilk.
Not really. As a design house, absolutely.. but not a manufacturer.
I think they do.
Err, they really don't. They don't have any depth, engineering wise, but they can knock up some very pretty concepts. Of course there's nothing stopping them hiring in the talent needed, provided their pockets are deep enough.

Chestrockwell

2,629 posts

158 months

Tuesday 11th December 2018
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I think the last type of cars that needs these electric power trains are hypercars.

I’d understand big brands like Porsche and Jaguar dipping their toes in it, creating desirable mainstream options for the market but that’s it.

Who wants to spend that kind of money on something that makes no noise?!

We’ve all seen many videos of the Model X destroying a lot of cars in the 1/4 mile and keeping up with super cars, theyre ridiculously fast and their only real selling point, anything faster really is unusable on the road. Why would anyone spend that kind of money on a 1900 bhp hypercar that makes no noise and has 1 trick that can barely be enjoyed on a runway or drag strip?!


Edit - before anyone says ‘why bother anything faster then? Why not just stop making cars and stop progressing’

I don’t mean it like that, a car like the new F1 engined AMG interests me and they could charge 5 million for them, sell out and I wouldn’t question it like this electric car, as there’s an engine inside that cost millions in R&D to engineer and make work. These electric cars just sound easy to make and I don’t see the point like an ICE car.

Edited by Chestrockwell on Tuesday 11th December 01:15

Plug Life

978 posts

92 months

Tuesday 11th December 2018
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Chestrockwell said:
Who wants to spend that kind of money on something that makes no noise?!
LOL

Jellinek

274 posts

276 months

Tuesday 11th December 2018
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unpc said:
Err, they really don't. They don't have any depth, engineering wise, but they can knock up some very pretty concepts. Of course there's nothing stopping them hiring in the talent needed, provided their pockets are deep enough.
Pininfarina do have their own engineering design consultancy actually and have done for some time. It’s not widely known, but it does exist.

Stu08

703 posts

118 months

Tuesday 11th December 2018
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Chestrockwell said:
Who wants to spend that kind of money on something that makes no noise

Edited by Chestrockwell on Tuesday 11th December 01:15
Agreed.

The sound of a car is a huge part of the experience for many petrolheads. The way the power is delivered is also critical. Nothing beats the sound of a decent engine nearing the redline, watching the revs increasing until changing gear at the right moment.

This is something EV's most likely will never replicate.

I know some will pop up and say that the sound of ICE is just the by-product of the inefficiency of burning fossil fuels. But that's missing the point.

flyinglotus

75 posts

140 months

Tuesday 11th December 2018
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is anyone else completely bored of this numbers game manufactures use nowadays? ..... let me just see a 400-600hp usuable light car with a beautiful engine.... something say al la F1?

couldn't care less if it will accelerate from here to the moon faster than we can blink....

i bet it will look absolutely mega though!

Ultrafunkula

997 posts

106 months

Tuesday 11th December 2018
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1925bhp... was 2000bhp really unachievable?

phil4

1,216 posts

239 months

Tuesday 11th December 2018
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Chestrockwell said:
These electric cars just sound easy to make
This. Especially when you can charge millions of pounds for one.

Gameface

16,565 posts

78 months

Tuesday 11th December 2018
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unpc said:
Gameface said:
ReaperCushions said:
Gameface said:
I guess Pininfarina have more credibility than most others of this ilk.
Not really. As a design house, absolutely.. but not a manufacturer.
I think they do.
Err, they really don't. They don't have any depth, engineering wise, but they can knock up some very pretty concepts. Of course there's nothing stopping them hiring in the talent needed, provided their pockets are deep enough.
Err, they are a world renowned name in the car industry who do actually have an engineering consultancy. That gives them more legitimacy and a better chance of success than the vast majority of these hypercar start ups.

This or a Keating?

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 11th December 2018
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Isnt an Electric Hyper Car absolutely defeating the object of why cars are going electric?

Dynamic Space Wizard

931 posts

105 months

Tuesday 11th December 2018
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Housey said:
I’ve got a 3000bhp one coming

0 to 60 in under 1 second
350mph
4 second quarter mile

55m each

All sold
Yes, but have you got a curtain to drape over it? You have to show that you really mean business.

Ultrafunkula

997 posts

106 months

Tuesday 11th December 2018
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Dynamic Space Wizard said:
Housey said:
I’ve got a 3000bhp one coming

0 to 60 in under 1 second
350mph
4 second quarter mile

55m each

All sold
Yes, but have you got a curtain to drape over it? You have to show that you really mean business.
You'd better stick some more turbo's on it too...

https://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/5000-hp-devel-s...

biggrim

119 posts

176 months

Tuesday 11th December 2018
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Given who the designer/manufacturer of this car is, should it not be ballachingly pretty? Just have to wait and see I suppose.

CO2000

3,177 posts

210 months

Tuesday 11th December 2018
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Ultrafunkula said:
1925bhp... was 2000bhp really unachievable?
That will be the be R (or similar) one